Hidden in Him wrote :
'""""""""""" Behold This is your exegesis of 2 Timothy 2:24-25?
Behold, in the name of touting how important "context" is, you didn't address the context nor the verses in question, but proceeded to wander off into other books. Now focus, please. I want you to tell me the meaning of the verses, and the following words specifically:
δοῦλον δὲ κυρίου οὐ δεῖ μάχεσθαι, ἀλλὰ ἤπιον εἶναι πρὸς πάντας, διδακτικόν, ἀνεξίκακον, ἐν πραΰτητι παιδεύοντα τοὺς ἀντιδιατιθεμένους, μήποτε δώῃ αὐτοῖς ὁ θεὸς μετάνοιαν εἰς ἐπίγνωσιν ἀληθείας,
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So define the words for me specifically and let's have this conversation finally.""""""""
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Well first of all, i didnt "wonder off into other books".
I used other verses, and explained to you why, and you curiously deleted all my quotes, and then posted back to me, that i didnt answer you.
But i certainly did, and i'll repost it as a Thread now.
I'll do it for you again, here.
Does that work for you?
Let me show you.
1. Scripture teaches, confirms, and verifies, other scriptures..
We compare Scripture with Scripture to get the CONTEXT......as without this, it all pretext, and confusion, and heresy.
So, when you just arbitrarily try to create a pretext... a false idea, . using a verse verse......then you have failed to understand why the bible has more than one verse in it, regarding a Topic, or Doctrine.
A Teacher like me, has an ability to let you see inside the meaning....which is the Light.
This is why i dont need to post 345 verses, per Thread...as i can help you to see the Light that is the meaning of the verses, by opening them.
Sometimes i post a Verse, and that is the Thread, and i open it in the Thread.....
But normally, i teach the Light that is the verse's meaning.
In this Thread, im just responding to the fact that you deleted my explanation, and declared i never answered it at all.
So.....
Paul says a few things, including your verse... that speak about a spirit of meekness when dealing with people, in general.
What you failed to recognize is that this verse is not defining how you deal with a heretic.
You missed that one.
So, you go to the verses where you are shown how to do that, perfectly, and according to the word.
See, the word has an answer for every situation....and these other verses balance perfectly.. with your 2nd Tim verses, that you have yanked completely out of Context, because you dont understand what you are doing.
Now you asked me if i am a teacher.....well, 120+ Threads, speak for themselves.
Thousands of people helped, speaks for itself.
What im doing right now will speak for itself.
Next,
Paul says ......""""as much as we can, live peacefully with all people"""", including with the Born Again Brethren.
But, understand Reader.... WE the redeemed dont give place to the Devil, or to his preachers.
Never !!
And, just as Jesus was found using a small whip of cords and was running people out of the Temple in Jerusalem, there is a time for a unrelenting and hot spotlight to be directly centered on a heretic.
This is always necessary when someone who will use a forum to harm believers, is in operation.
Its a must....It has to be done.
Let me show you something, Reader.
A Church is a collection, a gathering of believers.
A forum, is a Church.
So, you have to treat it with respect and you have to protect it from heretics.
And just like you would not let a heretic come to your church and preach from your pulpit, ..this same rule, this same understanding has to be the TOS of a "christian forum", whereby you dont just allow every heretic full opportunity to park and preach for weeks and months and years.
In that case of a forum heretic... you dont play with this, you dont hold hands with it, and you dont abide it.. You dont run up to it with agape` love and try to make friends.
What you do is this..... Titus 3:10
You reject them.
Now go and study that verse, and learn something you need to KNOW about how to deal with a heretic in your church, or on your Forum., or in your LIFE.
Lastly....the same Paul who wrote 2nd Tim, also said in those epistles to "rebuke sharply", the believers.
This is one of the best ways, if not the best, that a skilled Teacher will stop heresy, dead, as well as help a confused Christian get back on the right spiritual track.
Now are you following me?
What im telling you is....there is a time for everything, and a means to deal with it.
The Bible is not just a "lets all hug and get along", manuscript and peace pipe.
Jesus Himself said.....that your enemies.....ENEMIES, """"would be found in your own family, and household.""""
Thats the reality.
'""""""""""" Behold This is your exegesis of 2 Timothy 2:24-25?
Behold, in the name of touting how important "context" is, you didn't address the context nor the verses in question, but proceeded to wander off into other books. Now focus, please. I want you to tell me the meaning of the verses, and the following words specifically:
δοῦλον δὲ κυρίου οὐ δεῖ μάχεσθαι, ἀλλὰ ἤπιον εἶναι πρὸς πάντας, διδακτικόν, ἀνεξίκακον, ἐν πραΰτητι παιδεύοντα τοὺς ἀντιδιατιθεμένους, μήποτε δώῃ αὐτοῖς ὁ θεὸς μετάνοιαν εἰς ἐπίγνωσιν ἀληθείας,
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So define the words for me specifically and let's have this conversation finally.""""""""
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Well first of all, i didnt "wonder off into other books".
I used other verses, and explained to you why, and you curiously deleted all my quotes, and then posted back to me, that i didnt answer you.
But i certainly did, and i'll repost it as a Thread now.
I'll do it for you again, here.
Does that work for you?
Let me show you.
1. Scripture teaches, confirms, and verifies, other scriptures..
We compare Scripture with Scripture to get the CONTEXT......as without this, it all pretext, and confusion, and heresy.
So, when you just arbitrarily try to create a pretext... a false idea, . using a verse verse......then you have failed to understand why the bible has more than one verse in it, regarding a Topic, or Doctrine.
A Teacher like me, has an ability to let you see inside the meaning....which is the Light.
This is why i dont need to post 345 verses, per Thread...as i can help you to see the Light that is the meaning of the verses, by opening them.
Sometimes i post a Verse, and that is the Thread, and i open it in the Thread.....
But normally, i teach the Light that is the verse's meaning.
In this Thread, im just responding to the fact that you deleted my explanation, and declared i never answered it at all.
So.....
Paul says a few things, including your verse... that speak about a spirit of meekness when dealing with people, in general.
What you failed to recognize is that this verse is not defining how you deal with a heretic.
You missed that one.
So, you go to the verses where you are shown how to do that, perfectly, and according to the word.
See, the word has an answer for every situation....and these other verses balance perfectly.. with your 2nd Tim verses, that you have yanked completely out of Context, because you dont understand what you are doing.
Now you asked me if i am a teacher.....well, 120+ Threads, speak for themselves.
Thousands of people helped, speaks for itself.
What im doing right now will speak for itself.
Next,
Paul says ......""""as much as we can, live peacefully with all people"""", including with the Born Again Brethren.
But, understand Reader.... WE the redeemed dont give place to the Devil, or to his preachers.
Never !!
And, just as Jesus was found using a small whip of cords and was running people out of the Temple in Jerusalem, there is a time for a unrelenting and hot spotlight to be directly centered on a heretic.
This is always necessary when someone who will use a forum to harm believers, is in operation.
Its a must....It has to be done.
Let me show you something, Reader.
A Church is a collection, a gathering of believers.
A forum, is a Church.
So, you have to treat it with respect and you have to protect it from heretics.
And just like you would not let a heretic come to your church and preach from your pulpit, ..this same rule, this same understanding has to be the TOS of a "christian forum", whereby you dont just allow every heretic full opportunity to park and preach for weeks and months and years.
In that case of a forum heretic... you dont play with this, you dont hold hands with it, and you dont abide it.. You dont run up to it with agape` love and try to make friends.
What you do is this..... Titus 3:10
You reject them.
Now go and study that verse, and learn something you need to KNOW about how to deal with a heretic in your church, or on your Forum., or in your LIFE.
Lastly....the same Paul who wrote 2nd Tim, also said in those epistles to "rebuke sharply", the believers.
This is one of the best ways, if not the best, that a skilled Teacher will stop heresy, dead, as well as help a confused Christian get back on the right spiritual track.
Now are you following me?
What im telling you is....there is a time for everything, and a means to deal with it.
The Bible is not just a "lets all hug and get along", manuscript and peace pipe.
Jesus Himself said.....that your enemies.....ENEMIES, """"would be found in your own family, and household.""""
Thats the reality.
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