7 Facts: The Rapture and the End of the Age

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I am going through these things now simply using a study Bible, e-sword, prayer, asking help by the Holy Spirit and some thinking, am looking at one particular verse in Mark 8:38

Been working this morning on going through Mark 8:38.

There is so much to talk about in just this one particular verse itself and try to put the pieces of the Bible together. I have now come through some of the Old Testament scriptures that have talked about Israel unfaithfulness, Israel’s faithless bride, Israel’s futile idolatry, And the wickedness of Judah.

Which in turn has lead me to Mark 13:24-27. And I need to make it clear that God was preparing a bride to become a wife to Jesus that had to deal with the elected chosen people of that day in age who did not reject the Son of Man, and confessed Him in front of others by the spirit after Jesus had returned and came back in the glory of the Father at the resurrection (or also the return of Jesus to get his bride), and there would be a gathering of this bride who would be pure and blameless without blemish who done what taught by Paul and the apostles, to have faith in the son of God and love.

It’s almost overwhelming all this information.

Keep studying your Bible friend.

Anyone with extra insights please feel free to message me thank you.
 

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Rreally?
Who built this site 10,000 years ago in West Bank?
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9 Oldest Archaeological Sites in the World - Oldest.org
Firstly, the methods used to date ancient objects, is very suspect as rate of atomic decay isn't constant and their guesses are colored by their preconceived beliefs. Evolution; that is.

Secondly; there were humanoids around before Adam, but he was the first to receive a soul. A Spirit from God, which could become immortal.
 

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Firstly, the methods used to date ancient objects, is very suspect as rate of atomic decay isn't constant and their guesses are colored by their preconceived beliefs. Evolution; that is.

Secondly; there were humanoids around before Adam, but he was the first to receive a soul. A Spirit from God, which could become immortal.

Thanks for the explanation. So these sites were built by Other people.
 

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Secondly; there were humanoids around before Adam, but he was the first to receive a soul. A Spirit from God, which could become immortal.

What exactly “according to you”, is a “humanoid” ?
Where did “it” come from?
“What” is your “source” for your knowledge ?
 
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God created, made and established mankind’s timeline.
Men create and make trinkets to establish an undermining of God.

It is simply a matter of Who one chooses to Trust.

Imtereting take. Basically “throw your eyes out” and become blind to what you see.
 

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I can see archeologists efforts of discovery, I simply don’t Trust a mans “presumed” dating of their discoveries.

Sure, this is a common view of many Christians. Assume everyone is evil and lying (for reasons such as Satan etc) and trust that you are always right.
Respectable stance I would say. Respectable because you know where the other party stands and that’s that.
 

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Firstly, the methods used to date ancient objects, is very suspect as rate of atomic decay isn't constant and their guesses are colored by their preconceived beliefs. Evolution; that is.

Secondly; there were humanoids around before Adam, but he was the first to receive a soul. A Spirit from God, which could become immortal.

So you believe that dinosaurs are still walking around on earth today like the YEC folks do? The fossil record doesn't have to rely on carbon dating to know this earth is very ancient, and not just 6,000 years old.
 

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Neanderthal's ?
But basically; we just don't know the details of Creation and I for one don't want to be bothered about it.
It is enough that God commenced His 7000 year plan for mankind with a man called Adam.

Sure I know.
Gen 1:
And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:

First man ——> called Adam.
Adam was “created” out of the “dust” of Earth.
Earth IS “dry land”.
After Adam was “created”, God “made” Adam a “living” man.

To not be bothered with the True Facts, has lead you to consider junk science.
 
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So you believe that dinosaurs are still walking around on earth today like the YEC folks do? The fossil record doesn't have to rely on carbon dating to know this earth is very ancient, and not just 6,000 years old.

The “EARTH”, is Dry LAND.
If you study “creation” carefully, and compare with basic science you should be familiar with...
WET LAND, exists under the Oceans, Seas, etc.
Creation of the EARTH, WAS God basically moving His Spirit (POWER) upon the “WATERS” and “extracting” DRY LAND out of the “WATERS”.
DRY LAND called “EARTH”, did not exist, “UNTIL”, Gods “extraction”.
Animals, Plants, Mankind, did not exist, “UNTIL”, AFTER DRY LAND “existed”.

Scientists trying to “gauge” the Age of the Earth, by “testing” Dry Land that once was NOT Dry Land, and claiming the “DRY LAND” is of such and such AGE, and calling it an “AGE of the EARTH”, is junk science.
The AGE of the EARTH (is the AGE OF DRY LAND). The AGE of WET LAND, was NEVER revealed to us.

The problem with “junk science”... is the “therefore”, conclusions.
...Digging around in “present” DRY LAND, that DID NOT become DRY LAND, until 6,000 years ago.
...Finding fossils (of animal bones), created out of DRY LAND, and dating the bones, Against the (out of thin air number), they have decided the AGE of WET LAND existed, but are Calling it EARTH, (BEFORE IT WAS EARTH...DRY)

No, the EARTH....DRY LAND, is not older than 6,000 (give or take a FEW years)...
WET LAND...most likely existed for millions of years, yet irrelevant.
LARGE “dry land” (earth) roaming, air breathing animals were created out of DRY LAND...NOT WET LAND!

LARGE LAND Animals, (men have named “dinosaurs” and “categorized” them by body structure)...were created out of DRY LAND, and to no surprise; Weather effects, VIA Gods Power and Pleasure; have EFFECTED the HABITAT of the EARTH, “animals” required as necessary to “sustain” their LIFE...and HAVE become “extinct”...dying off, Because of their “HABITAT” no longer able to “sustain” their LIFE.

It’s a foreshadow LESSON, for mankind.
Animals FIRST created.
LARGE POWERFUL animals, ruling FEARLESSLY over the DRY LAND.
BUT NOT invincible to Gods POWER.
Man created AFTER animals.
POWERFUL men, “ruling, dictating, FEARLESSLY over DRY LAND.
BUT NOT invincible to Gods POWER.
Men of Great power, SHALL be Destroyed, same as POWER existing Animals were Destroyed.
 

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Firstly, the methods used to date ancient objects, is very suspect as rate of atomic decay isn't constant and their guesses are colored by their preconceived beliefs. Evolution; that is.

Secondly; there were humanoids around before Adam, but he was the first to receive a soul. A Spirit from God, which could become immortal.
Humanoids before Adam?

Where is that in scripture?
 

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So you believe that dinosaurs are still walking around on earth today like the YEC folks do? The fossil record doesn't have to rely on carbon dating to know this earth is very ancient, and not just 6,000 years old.
You simply don't seem to have read what I said.
The earth is ancient, geological formations prove that.

Far too many 'conclusion jumpers' here. Refer to my post #11

As for aliens and UFO's, they are Satanic manifestations and we Christians must have nothing to do with them.
 

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Thanks for the explanation. So these sites were built by Other people.
Anything found built under 20 feet of other deposits were built after Noah. That was less than 4500 years ago. There are sights in China older than the flood of Noah's day. That Flood literally created the stone age, and Noah and his family started from there. I think life was more advanced prior to the Flood.

Even Peter in 2 Peter 3 explained that point, and Peter had no idea how advanced the 20th century would be. He reminds evolutionist who claim there never was an earth wide flood like The Bible talks about, that there was indeed a Flood. That Flood literally destroyed everything on earth which would mess up trying to date the earth.

The Flood literally buried what was on the surface miles below the current surface in many places. Even the mountains we currently see were produced by the Flood and in the aftermath of the Flood for thousands of years.

What mankind claims, like the continents separating, did not take millions of years. What we see today happened since the Flood. There was only one continent before the Flood.

Of course the only proof other than God's written Word, will be made available at the Second Coming, because at that moment, the world will start to return to the way it was before the Flood, except this time instead of water, it will be via fire and during the events of the GT. And yes, people will live through it sometimes even trying to die, but they cannot.

"And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man. And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them."

Humans will live and die according to God's will and plan, not their own.
 
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So you believe that dinosaurs are still walking around on earth today like the YEC folks do?
Yes, IF God Can "Create an adult with the appearance of age," why not a 6000-year-old earth?

Just imagine today's Lizard species. What IF they GREW up to be Methuselah's age of 969 Before the flood? Can you calculate HOW LARGE such a creature would be?
 
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Yes, IF God Can "Create an adult with the appearance of age," why not a 6000-year-old earth?

Just imagine today's Lizard species. What IF they GREW up to be Methuselah's age of 969 Before the flood? Can you calculate HOW LARGE such a creature would be?

None of that is proof that dinosaurs are still walking around today on earth.

If you stay... with what is written in God's Word, you might eventually learn, with His help of course, that this earth He created a long, long time, long time ago, as He left us the archaelogical and fossil remains for a reason. God destroyed the old world (yes, there was a world earth age PRIOR to the time of man in the flesh). In that old world is when Satan was perfect in following God. We know this by the parable God gave in Ezekiel 28 and 31 about that. And we also know the "without form, and void" phrase in the Hebrew is what that destruction of the first world earth age was about per Jeremiah 4:23-28 and Romans 8:18-25.

So the YEC folks are a bit behind in God's Word. And no amount of YEC theme parks is going to change what God's Word shows about those ancient events.