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A question to those who believe Trump will win

Discussion in 'Current Events & Politics Forum' started by Dcopymope, Jan 14, 2021.

  1. Dcopymope

    Dcopymope Well-Known Member

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    Lots of self proclaimed "prophets" still claiming that Trump is going to triumph, save America and "make it great again", because he was "ordained" by God to do so. These clowns who have been wrong on multiple occasions. To my utter non-surprise, there are plenty of people here that believe it, so I have a question for you. If Trump does in fact end up losing, what is going to be your excuse then? Are you going to double down even more like the creatures in the video below have been doing, or are you going to throw away your pride and admit that God is not talking to these people at all, and that your interpretation of prophecy is false?

    Consider this a test of the Eurocentric, white evangelical Church. And, for those who really believe this, I didn't come back to this cesspit of a website to start an argument over your beliefs. Its really a simple yes or no question. Time is running short, and I have zero patience to be sitting here "debating" about current events or end times prophecy, except to say that ALL of you are wrong about it, because your assumptions about who the true Hebrew descendants really are, are dead wrong. It ain't the people in Israel, and I'll just leave it at that. So, what are you going to do if he loses?



    :rolleyes:.........
     
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    Enoch111 Well-Known Member

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    The truth is that Donald Trump won the 2020 presidential election by an overwhelming margin.

    But through blatant and CRIMINAL FRAUD committed in at least five states (and perhaps 17 states) his victory was stolen from him and incompetent and senile Joe Biden was handed a fraudulent victory. Had all responsible parties done their constitutional duty in declaring Trump the winner, we would not be seeing the travesty of an imbecile being inaugurated as president of the USA.
     
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    Dcopymope Well-Known Member

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    Not what I asked you. I don't care what the "constitution" says. God is ultimately in control. He raises up people to lead the nations, and brings them down at their appointed time if he so chooses, not your vote. According to all these "prophets", Trump was supposed to be your king Cyrus that would swoop in and restore your "rightful" place over this land. What happened to that? This thread is specifically for those people that have been pumping this dude up like this the last four years.......and STILL believes he will somehow win. :rolleyes:
     
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    I promised to stay away from the political drama in America... but this is far too important of a topic....I am tired of the division it has caused... and the permission it has given for Christians to disrespect and demean each other..... However... you have reminded me that my biggest concern/wondering was regarding these so called "prophets"... The very ones who claimed Trump to be their Cyrus... and are STILL saying that Trump will serve another 4 years... IN my mind... they are just as guilty at INCITING violence across America... It is their voices that many believers are listening to.
    I seem to share your anger towards this issue... However... I have come to see that it is NOT worth sharing my opinion on.

    I have no idea what is to become of these "prophets"... I never trusted them or endorsed them to begin with... but it does bother me that there will probably be no accountability for them. They will simply claim that God changed His mind.
     
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    If God would cause fraudsters Biden and Harris to drop dead together on or before inauguration day, then Trump would indeed win. It ain't over till its over. Has God done such things in the past? Absolutely.

    ACTS 12: HEROD GETS HIS JUST DESSERTS
    21 And upon a set day Herod, arrayed in royal apparel, sat upon his throne, and made an oration unto them. 22 And the people gave a shout, saying, It is the voice of a god, and not of a man. 23 And immediately the angel of the Lord smote him, because he gave not God the glory: and he was eaten of worms, and gave up the ghost.

    Neither Biden, nor Harris, nor any of the Demoncrats have ever given God the glory. So the time may have come when God will smite the evildoers.
     
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    Rita Well-Known Member

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    I will add something to this thread after the 20th , because I honestly keep an open mind. Only then can the question in the OP be addressed. I am much with @Adoration , but even I know that God has moved in unprecedented ways throughout history , and sometimes it happens right up to the wire in time.
    Rita
     
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    In addition to my above statement... I do feel that God is bringing a remnant of true believers together... while at the same time... bringing forth much darkness to light... I think that many of these Word of Faith preachers/"prophets" days of false glory are coming to an end.

    So many believers are sadly being caught up in this Trump idolatry... which will also soon come to an end.

    God is cleaning house in my opinion... and America... just like Canada .. and every where else is coming under judgement.

    The true church is about to be BIRTHED... and those who have the heart and desire to truly follow God will humble themselves... repent and turn back to God.
     
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    I absolutely agree with what you have stated... and I perhaps should have followed your heed and waited... but this is an important topic.
     
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    :) I'm not angry at all at what's happening actually. I'm just sitting back and watching the show unfold. I know that God, the real God that is, not the "god" of white supremacy that some of these people on this website worships, is a just God. A nation that was founded on blood and brutality, and unjust practices must reap what it sowed. I know that God is not done yet. He's just getting started on judging this wicked nation and all other gentile nations. That includes the many false "prophets" that have arised within them....woe unto those clowns.
     
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    We are in agreement... FALSE doctrine has angered me for a great many years.... The Word of Faith/Prosperity doctrine has made my blood boil.. more than I can state. I am not angry at what is happening currently... Like you... I am basically sitting back... and watching God have HIS SAY and HIS WAY.... People seem to think that their opinions DEFINE truth... I am blessed to know that my opinion means NOTHING but that God's Will means everything... I am trying ( trying ) to take a break from the forums... but your thread was too important for me to pass by since this was the topic that I was originally interested in. Blessings to you.
     
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    :)Thanks....and just know to expect these churches to continue praying for this nations "deliverance", and that God will not answer their prayers. If they think that God is just going to overlook this nations many evils since its foundation, then it only shows that they haven't read scripture at all except in sound bites. What's going to happen is this nation will fall upon its own sword. God is going to lay the absolute smackdown on this nation. This nation is the daughter of Babylon, an abomination in his sight. The insurrection we saw nation wide exemplifies it. They are a very prideful people, and pride goeth before the fall. ;)
     
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    With so many popular false prophets running around... Christiandom is taking a huge hit in the PR war.

    No doubt about it.

    Between the three latest sex scandals and the money scandals and then all the false prophets...good grief!

    None of this is what Christiandom is about. We aren't even supposed to be involved in politics...much less money and sex scandals.

    But Atheism hasn't won any sort of debate. Never did. Logical fallacies are not going to work ever and yet Atheists believe in them for whatever reason.
    Atheists have no definition, outside of themselves, pertaining to the word "good".
    And if you can't find an objective definition from outside of yourself...that's a major fail.

    And now...the stirring up of more dissention and strife is going to destroy the nation.

    Sure, Joe Biden is going to be inaugurated on January 20th and be president.

    I'm thinking that with all of his current philosophies he is going to be one of those who do absolutely nothing. I'll be shocked if he specifically gets anything major accomplished. He will have both houses of congress to do almost anything with...but I still don't think that he will get anything done. He can act like he has a mandate... ROFL.

    But most people were voting against Trump instead of for Biden.

    But...
    Maybe there will be another riot on inauguration day of the false prophets. Who knows...
     
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    Hey, don't lose your head over it, lol!

    Let's just see what happens, okay? God's not done yet!
     
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    At this point there is no possible way that Trump will be a second term president. No court will hear his arguments. They have tried to get the results overturned and failed. Joe Biden is the president elect and will be inaugurated in a little over a week.
    The house of representatives voted to impeach Trump just last night.

    It's over.
    It's been over.

    What is wrong with believing that the false prophets told you what you wanted to hear instead of a true word from God? Even though these guys are popular...they are still false prophets. You know the test of a prophet... you know what the Judgement is for a false one too. Or are you going to continue to support false prophets? Guys who by very definition are "workers of iniquity".
     
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    Sorry, but I’m not listening to the naysayers!
     
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    Well well well....what do we have here?
    Let me get this straight....
    You are calling the United States a wicked nation....
    Who do you think has a god of white supremacy?
    What do you think of black supremacy?
    Do you know of a nation that was established without violence?
     
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    As much as I want to believe it, I am not 100% on board with Trump going to win. If it does, it will definitely usher my faith into new areas. But if not, I think even the ones who call themselves prophets will have to go back and reevaluate their words and even their office. Because many have prophetic leanings. I think two qualifications of a prophet is spiritual discernment and a nice rudder on the tongue.

    I am sure the ones claiming Trump's victory may blame it on the lack of prayer by the saints and lack of action. But they boldly have proclaimed God saying Trump will win, so I am sure many people may walk away from God if it doesnt happen. We must not trust in the words of men, but God alone.

    Oh man, do I hope they are true though. I really want it to be true. I will be so excited if it does happen. Because if there are false prophets, there has to be true ones too. It is just the who. And usually it is the few that are correct.
     
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    I'm confident that most of us Christians, myself included, who heard these prophecies has had a 'let's wait and see' attitude about them. So, as far as prophecy goes there will be no disappointment for us.

    Evangelistic efforts and successes throughout the world show the true church of Christ to be hardly Eurocentric and white.

    DNA testing shows us who is genuinely of Jewish descent and who is not. It's not a mystery anymore.
     
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    The reason I took Kim Clement's prophecies with a grain of salt was the fact that he was into the prosperity gospel. The Bible says even if his prophecies were to come to pass we are still to reject him on the basis of his idol worship. That's why I've kept my distance from his and other people's prophecies.
     
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    That's actually really wrong and scary wrong.
    There's been many times in scriptures and elsewhere that there has been no prophets or prophecy...Paul even talks about this.

    False prophets are solely that...false prophets that should be taken out and stoned to death according to Old Testament scriptures. Are these guys publicly repenting of trying to lead people astray? Of course not...they want your money.

    Real Prophets of God refused money...sure they accepted a physical meal in front of them when hungry...but they didn't drive nice cars or wear nice clothes.
    They don't wear $200 t-shirts and $600 blue jeans with a $700 plaid shirt over the top.

    Nor do they wear suit and ties.

    Prophets are always hated. They all got killed except for Elijah.
    What you think that David appreciated Nathan's visit? Received it as if it was "glad tidings"?
    They ignored Jesus until they killed him.
    They ignored Isaiah until they killed him too
    They ignored Jeremiah until they put him in jail so he couldn't be heard.

    Prophets are not liked...they aren't popular, not rich, and definitely not well regarded.

    Not going to have their own YouTube video either or ask for donations.

    Now a false prophet?
    They say things that everyone enjoys hearing...they got glitz and glamour. They got money and a schtick.
    They are on every media outlet they can find.
     
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