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The reasons will become apparent. The following dream was presented to me in full within the last few days, and if true, it suggests a lot of things now hang in the balance if we do not pray for our duly elected President of the United States, Donald Trump.

The Dream:

I was in a very nice house in my neighborhood. This house is actually the Masonic Lodge in my hometown. I really felt "clean." My hair was nice, I was in a beautiful dress, and I was very content. I looked 9 months pregnant. My husband seemed different; how he came up behind me and hugged me is a way he never does. Just really passionate. By the Masonic lodge, across the street, was Cherry Street Baptist Church. So I was with my husband inside this really nice house, and three drunk men tried entering in the door on the side closest to the Baptist church. My husband chased them away, but they later hung around the porch, although they no longer tried to get in. Then I remember Trump walking from the doors of the Baptist Church at night over to the front door of our house and entering. He acted like he lived in the house too, because he opened the door and hung his coat on the wrack with this confident look on his face. I believe he said something like, "Sorry I am late." But I didn't want him living in the house or entering my dreams anymore. He made me a bit uncomfortable in my dreams honestly, because of his pride. He seemed a bit cocky to me. So I said to him, "I allowed you to be in two other of my dreams, but you need to leave now." At this, he had an angry look on his face at first, but then he looked very afraid because my husband stopped hugging me and started chasing him; down the church side road, past the neighbor's house on the corner towards the hospital at night. He looked really afraid when my husband ran after him towards the hospital.

Once my husband left, the three drunk men outside then forced their way in through the front door facing a parking lot. I should have called the cops on them because my husband had protected me and they were still on the porch. But as they entered, these three drunk men in the dream were staggering and looking at me lustfully. I just stood there looking at them and they were looking at me with lustful smiles. The middle staggering man was being held up on the arms of the other two men. They were old and had ragged clothes on, like they had worn them on the streets for a long time and didn't change them out. They were well worn and dirty. They didn't look like they had showered, and had sort of shaved faces. No beards. The middle guy only had hair on the back of his head like an old guy has. The other two were a bit younger, perhaps in their 50's. I felt in danger and defenseless with my pregnancy. My husband wasn't home and I woke up.
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The interpretation I sent:

The Masonic Lodge represents the State and the Baptist Church represents the Church. Though using a mixed analogy, you likewise represent the Church, the bride of Christ, and your husband represents the Lord Jesus Himself. This is why he acts differently in the dream. The Lord is very passionate about His bride. Trump represents himself in this dream, and entering the Lodge represents him entering the White House, where he currently lives. But there is a problem: He assumes he will continue to live there, not taking into account the wishes of the Church. When you as the Church tell him, "I allowed you to be in two other of my dreams, but you need to leave now," it seems to communicate that while the Church once held him to be something of a "dream" President, i.e. someone who could fulfill the church's dreams if elected, there is now something wrong with him, as indicated by his angry reaction rather than one of humility. But note that Trump is depicted as a Friend of the Church; He walks across from a Baptist Church, meaning he is Pro-church, and Trump has fulfilled his promises to Christians since coming to office. But the dream suggests that the church may no longer have as much faith in him by the time of the election, when he is "hanging up his coat." The coat here represents the long coat he normally wears in honor of Presidents from our past; thus it represents the time of the 2020 election, when he will be "hanging up" his first term. But should his response to conservative Christians suggesting he not serve a 2nd term be an angry one (for reasons I will explain), the dream suggests the Lord Himself may chase Trump out of the White House, to the hospital. As of the update (August 21st), this is still the part of the dream that is still not clear to me. It suggests he could come down with some sort of illness (I had originally considered Dementia but am leaning against this now), but there is also simply the possibility of his physical health being in some way threatened, whether he is ever actually effected or not. Whatever the case, Trump may be operating under a delusion that there is no way he can lose the 2020 election because he is "Heaven sent" and divinely appointed, not realizing that the same God who put him in office can take him from it. The sudden realization of this may be what causes him to become frightened; that the Lord no longer wishes him to be President and serve out a second term.

[Note: I then sent her the following image, asking if the drunk man in the middle looked sort of like this, which she confirmed]


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Interpretation continued:

The real troubling part of the dream, however, is the three drunk men. These likely represent prominent members of the DNC (Democratic National Convention) who have been trying to "break into" the White House ever since the day Trump took office. They have been "out on the street," so to speak, trying to get back in. The picture I sent was of DNC Chairman Tom Perez. He has strong connections to the Jesuits, and expresses disdain for conservative Christian positions. He is Pro-abortion and Pro-gay rights, and also connected to George Soros, an evil globalist who funds Satanist efforts around the world, and the establishment of a New World Order. It means that Tom Perez is a dangerous man. The DNC could likely enter "by force" through voter fraud. They are extremely corrupt, and would have no qualms about doing things like cheating at the ballot box. And this time around, because of Covid-19, some of the voting will likely be done electronically. Much of it may also be done by mail, and it has been proven from history that there are numerous ways to manipulate the mail system of voting. Thus "by force" likely means they will enter in by illegal means, i.e. through voter fraud.

Someone like Tom Perez exercising power behind the scenes in the White House would be a frightening picture for true Christians in the future. The suggestion is that once in power again, they will be eyeing the opportunity to "rape" the Church in some form or fashion. These are evil men, clothed not in the "cleanness" of the Spirit as the Church is in the first few sentences of your dream, but rather clothed in the spiritual filthiness of demonic spirits. This is also confirmed in how they look at you "with lustful smiles." While Trump was in office, the Church was protected. Once gone, the church will be defenseless, and at a time when she is "pregnant," likely meaning spiritually pregnant with a future generation of Christians who will stand for Christ and for the truth during the end-times.

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The message of this dream is that Christians need to pray for President Donald Trump. There are a couple of aspects to this dream I do not yet fully understand, such as why he would be chased to a hospital for instance. I also don’t have an answer for why the church would oppose him, or tell him, “You have been in two of my dreams before, but you no longer can.” There appears the chance that this dream could refer to events that take place four years from now, when Trimp has served out two terms by then. Should he insist on serving a third term, this would certainly cause the church to lose faith in him, as it would be in violation of the Constitution, and indeed amount to him acting as though he lived there. Whatever the case, the dream is a call to prayer for this country, for evil forces are at work that would seek to harm the church.

Links to supporting material will be provided in later posts.

God bless,
Hidden In Him
 
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On Tom Perez, and his connections to the Jesuits, George Soros, and illegal voting:
DNC Chairman Tom Perez Led Soros Group Lobbying for Illegal Alien Voting
New Democratic Party leader Tom Perez has deep Jesuit connections
LECF Blog

Something from the last link that especially rings true in light of the interpretation:

With the decision of the Democratic National Party on Saturday, February 25, to appoint as its new chair former Obama administration Secretary of Labor Tom Perez, Soros and his Open Society Foundations appear ready to pursue a full-out Saul Alinsky strategy of rubbing raw social tensions over race, immigration, and discrimination.... with Perez and Ellison at the head of the DNC, Soros will have additional leverage to transform the Democratic Party into an even more radical organization... one that contests in the courts every attempt by President Trump to control the borders and deport criminal illegal aliens... one that marches in the streets with the determination to break windows, block traffic, shout obscenities, and get into fist fights. Attacking the police is essential to Soros’ strategy to fund the politics of chaos for the radical hard-left organizing in the United States as part of an international socialist revolutionary movement. By funding Black Lives Matter, Soros intends to target every police officer unfortunate enough to be assigned to patrolling a minority community of a Democratic Party-controlled major city such as Baltimore or Detroit. Today, police officers risk ending their careers should they be forced in the line of duty to draw a weapon in self-defense to restrain a black teenager criminally wielding lethal force. When we understand that the agenda of Black Lives Matter is to cause chaos by intimidating police, we should not be surprised that murder rates are escalating in Chicago.

Now that Tom Perez is DNC chair, Soros can be expected to step up his enthusiastic funding of a host of Alinsky-like “community organizers.” These movement revolutionaries and anarchists are determined to delegitimize everything President Trump tries to accomplish. The chaos these hard-left radicals intend to create will be fueled by a mainstream media preconditioned to present radicals on the left as victims of the corrupt, capitalistic imperialism now epitomized by Trump. Determined that their radical causes have moral justification that transcends ideology, this hard-left Democratic Party will certainly abandon all respect for the First Amendment, in their determination to demonize and silence anyone who dares to object. The abuse hard-left Democratic ideologues are preparing to unleash on Hillary’s “deplorables” – those of us that former President Obama demeaned as “clinging” to our guns and our bibles – will have no precedent in U.S. political history.

...The point is that if Soros succeeds in undermining the authority upon which honest law enforcement intends to preserve, protect and defend civil society, he will have succeeded in opening the door to a politics of chaos that ultimately risks undermining the American Republic itself.



On how the potential for voter fraud on a large scale would be inherent in a vote-by-mail election:
Database Swells to 1,285 Proven Cases of Voter Fraud in America
https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/whitehouse.gov/files/docs/pacei-voterfraudcases.pdf

Two thirds of Americans know the potential for voter fraud is very real, despite every liberal establishment media outlet in the country loudly proclaiming it isn't:
Two-thirds of Americans say voting by mail would increase voter fraud, poll finds

There are numerous other links I could provide on virtually all of this, but I have limited it to a few for now.
 
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Please note that although I make reference to the Jesuits, this is NOT an anti-Catholic thread.

Good Catholics know very well who is on their side and who isn't (See video in link below, from 5:15 onward):

The Democrats Are Evil
 

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I have been praying for our leaders. To what extent is the President our leader, really?

Look at the first three kings of all ancient Israel and then look at the ones who followed, the kings of Judah and the kings of the northern 10 tribes, called Israel. How good were the 'good' ones? How good is one of our leaders today compared to others.

As a peon in the secular today what do we really know? Who can we or should we trust among them? Who can kill us? The Democrats? The Republicans? If we are on the Lord's side, who can stand against us? Do we have to pick a party and follow the line to stand with God?

But I am praying for our leaders anyway!
 

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I have been praying for our leaders. To what extent is the President our leader, really?

Look at the first three kings of all ancient Israel and then look at the ones who followed, the kings of Judah and the kings of the northern 10 tribes, called Israel. How good were the 'good' ones? How good is one of our leaders today compared to others.

As a peon in the secular today what do we really know? Who can we or should we trust among them? Who can kill us? The Democrats? The Republicans? If we are on the Lord's side, who can stand against us? Do we have to pick a party and follow the line to stand with God?

But I am praying for our leaders anyway!

Thanks for the response. Amazing how quiet this thread is so far.

In response, I'd say we could be facing a choice of praying God keeps a Hezekiah in office for four more years (four good years, hopefully), or ending up with an Ahab and Jezebel as the alternative, LoL.

But I will grant you one thing: Regardless of what we end up with, those who truly belong to God will not be easy for the enemy to get rid of. Like Elijah and Elisha, the Lord will sustain them no matter what, and manifest His power through them to display that He is greater than evil men, and the gods they serve.

So yes, you put it well. If we are on the Lord's side, no one will have the power to stand against us completely. Though it must be understood that the church will need to be prepared to withstand trails sooner rather than later.
 

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Just finding out that Trump's father suffered from Dementia, and that he nevertheless "clung to his position as chairman of the board of Trump Management until he died at the age of 93."

Like Father, Like Son. The Troubling Problem of Dementia Trump’s White House

I think the reason many on the Right including myself have not been hearing these things because the Liberal media has been vilifying Trump non-stop for 4 years now, so we tuned them out long ago. But my eyes have been opened through this dream and then the research I started doing. The above article also points out some of the symptoms we can expect from a Dementia sufferer are entirely consistent with those I refer to in the interpretation, and they will further increase with age.
 
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Hi Hidden in him ...In the OP, the link to the White House it claimed that he didn’t have Alzheimer’s , but listed the same symptoms as this item which refers to his dads demencia as being Alzheimer’s - what form of demencia do they think he has ?
Personally I would not want anyone in charge with any form of demencia ..... mind you doesn’t Biden have the same health issues ?
I would also presumes that Christians are praying for him anyway , given that we are called to pray for our leaders and those in power- although many may not have picked up on any issues - my son reckoned he had some mental health issues some years back.....
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The reasons will become apparent. The following dream was presented to me in full within the last few days, and if true, it suggests a lot of things now hang in the balance if we do not pray for our duly elected President of the United States, Donald Trump.

The Dream:

I was in a very nice house in my neighborhood. This house is actually the Masonic Lodge in my hometown. I really felt "clean." My hair was nice, I was in a beautiful dress, and I was very content. I looked 9 months pregnant. My husband seemed different; how he came up behind me and hugged me is a way he never does. Just really passionate. By the Masonic lodge, across the street, was Cherry Street Baptist Church. So I was with my husband inside this really nice house, and three drunk men tried entering in the door on the side closest to the Baptist church. My husband chased them away, but they later hung around the porch, although they no longer tried to get in. Then I remember Trump walking from the doors of the Baptist Church at night over to the front door of our house and entering. He acted like he lived in the house too, because he opened the door and hung his coat on the wrack with this confident look on his face. I believe he said something like, "Sorry I am late." But I didn't want him living in the house or entering my dreams anymore. He made me a bit uncomfortable in my dreams honestly, because of his pride. He seemed a bit cocky to me. So I said to him, "I allowed you to be in two other of my dreams, but you need to leave now." At this, he had an angry look on his face at first, but then he looked very afraid because my husband stopped hugging me and started chasing him; down the church side road, past the neighbor's house on the corner towards the hospital at night. He looked really afraid when my husband ran after him towards the hospital.

Once my husband left, the three drunk men outside then forced their way in through the front door facing a parking lot. I should have called the cops on them because my husband had protected me and they were still on the porch. But as they entered, these three drunk men in the dream were staggering and looking at me lustfully. I just stood there looking at them and they were looking at me with lustful smiles. The middle staggering man was being held up on the arms of the other two men. They were old and had ragged clothes on, like they had worn them on the streets for a long time and didn't change them out. They were well worn and dirty. They didn't look like they had showered, and had sort of shaved faces. No beards. The middle guy only had hair on the back of his head like an old guy has. The other two were a bit younger, perhaps in their 50's. I felt in danger and defenseless with my pregnancy. My husband wasn't home and I woke up.
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The message of this dream is that Christians need to pray for President Trump, and specifically for his healing. The reason he will get angry is not because he is a bad person; it is a reference to the fact that Dementia may cause him to lash out even against his closest allies. He is losing proper mental functioning, and if he is not prayed for in this regarding specifically, he may be unfit for office by the time the 2020 election rolls around. If that happens, the dream predicts we will be stuck with some incredibly evil people in power; people bent on the destruction of this country, and who will especially target the conservative Christian base that got Trump elected from the start.

Links to supporting material will be provided in later posts.

God bless,
Hidden In Him

Can I simplify things for you? I have an Honours degree in Politics and have taught the subject so you might say I have a finger on the pulse. I live in Australia and we were saved from a man who claimed to be catholic but had he been elected he would have enacted a programme that rubbished Christianity and had the intention to legalise sin.

We were saved by God through Scott Morrison who is a born again believer and leader of the Liberals who was not considered as the winner. In fact, everyone said Bill Shorten would win the election. He didn't. On the Thursday night before the Saturday election, I felt a wave of prayer going up around the country for a just outcome and that is what we got.

So, if anyone is thinking/hoping the government will solve our problems they are wrong. The government can do its best but it CANNOT solve our problems. All it can do is provide us with money to help US solve our problems. If we choose not to does not matter what government we have it will fail. So often we vote according to who will meet our needs. WRONG. We should vote according to who will focus on the countries needs.

At the last election, I would have been better off with the party that lost the election. I didn't vote for them because their policies overall would have been bad for the country.

Let me give you an example. This country like so many others is in the grip of domestic violence. The party that lost was going to throw money at the problem which has been happening for a while now. Has it helped? No there is still as much domestic violence as there ever was. No one was addressing the reasons for domestic violence. What makes men angry to drive them into domestic violence? Until you know that you will not solve the problem. They wanted to solve the fruit, not the root. The party that won was going to address mental health problems which would partway solve the problem.

As you can see by my signature that I am a vocal protector of the baby in the womb. Probably because I have 12 grandchildren who are so beautiful (and cheeky). I would never vote for ANY party whose policy was open slather on abortion as the Democrats are and the party that lost the election here.

The bottom line is that you vote for the lesser of two evils. The Democrats want open slather on abortion and have said that they will return all the powers to abortionists that the Republicans have stripped away. No way in the world would I vote Democrat.

That does not benefit me personally but it does affect the country overall.
 
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Hi Hidden in him ...In the OP, the link to the White House it claimed that he didn’t have Alzheimer’s , but listed the same symptoms as this item which refers to his dads demencia as being Alzheimer’s - what form of demencia do they think he has ?

They are closely related, hence the debate over what his symptoms seem to suggest the most.
Dementia vs. Alzheimer’s Disease: What Is the Difference?

Not sure myself. It just doesn't look good.
Personally I would not want anyone in charge with any form of demencia ...

Neither would I. Having a man, no matter how good a man he was, serving as Commander-In-Chief of the United States when he was losing his mind and experiencing increasing bouts of anger and irrationality is a frightening proposition.
. mind you doesn’t Biden have the same health issues ?

Biden is worse, IMO. The trouble is, the DNC won't care, just as long as they take control of the White House come January. They can manage him and prop him up in front of the camera as necessary, and just limit how much live air time he gets. Meanwhile, what goes on behind the scenes will be carried out by people who know exactly what they are doing.
I would also presumes that Christians are praying for him anyway , given that we are called to pray for our leaders and those in power

Mmmm... I don't know. I would like to think most Christians pray for their leaders. I just don't know if that's the case or not.
 
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We were saved by God through Scott Morrison who is a born again believer and leader of the Liberals who was not considered as the winner. In fact, everyone said Bill Shorten would win the election. He didn't. On the Thursday night before the Saturday election, I felt a wave of prayer going up around the country for a just outcome and that is what we got...

The bottom line is that you vote for the lesser of two evils. The Democrats want open slather on abortion and have said that they will return all the powers to abortionists that the Republicans have stripped away. No way in the world would I vote Democrat.


Yes, I heard about that. You guys are going through something very similar to us politically right now, and just like here with the leftist media doing everything in their power to sway public opinion into opposition against a duly elected leader.

I don't think Biden would win a fair election honestly, even if Trump was visibly losing cognitive ability. He would still eviscerate Biden in debates. The problem is the potential for voter fraud swinging the election, as the dream and interpretation suggests. All sorts of evils have been perpetrated on the American people where politics is concerned, going all the way back to the Kennedy assassination...

That's the big concern for me. We have two of the oldest candidates ever to run going up against each other in the coming 2020 election, but the real players may be the ones secretly arranging things behind the scenes.
 
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They are closely related, hence the debate over what his symptoms seem to suggest the most.
Dementia vs. Alzheimer’s Disease: What Is the Difference?

Not sure myself. It just doesn't look good.


Neither would I. Having a man, no matter how good a man he was, serving as Commander-In-Chief of the United States when he was losing his mind and experiencing increasing bouts of anger and irrationality is a frightening proposition.


Biden is worse, IMO. The trouble is, the DNC won't care, just as long as they take control of the White House come January. They can manage him and prop him up in front of the camera as necessary, and just limit how much live air time he gets. Meanwhile, what goes on behind the scenes will be carried out by people who know exactly what they are doing.


Mmmm... I don't know. I would like to think most Christians pray for their leaders. I just don't know if that's the case.
You could be right about the praying, I considered that after I posted , I need a kick to remember to pray for our leaders !
Just to clarify ‘ demencia ‘ is not a separate illness to Alzheimer’s - demencia is the umbrella that Alzheimer’s comes under, it is the overal term for the set of symptoms that are caused by disorders affecting the brain. Alzheimer’s is by far the worst kind.
Symptoms are reversible in some cases as they may be caused by depression, thyroid issues, sleep disorders
- so much would depend on what is causing the issues to arise with the President. The articles are presuming he has a form of demencia because of his age, and he may well have, but it could also be down to other things.
But, you need a fit and well President - I actually wondered how Ronald Reagan survived as long as he did in power, he definitely had Problems that were linked to a form of demencia - quite frightening to hold that much power with those extreme limitations
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... the real players may be the ones secretly arranging things behind the scenes.
History shows the sheer influence of Wall Street, huge corporations and the corporate influences in Pentagon procurement and strategy and of the Council on Foreign Relations (=Wall Street) in intelligence paradigms and strategy. As Bob Woodward says, age 60 is young for a US President: he or she needs longer than that first of all to get a real grip of the sheer vastness of the corporate and intelligence influences which will so deeply affect the President's exercise of office.
 

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Please note that although I make reference to the Jesuits, this is NOT an anti-Catholic thread.

Good Catholics know very well who is on their side and who isn't (See video in link below, from 5:15 onward):

The Democrats Are Evil
I doubt whether one political system is better than the other. God's purposes know no haste or delay, they will be fulfilled whoever is in power politically.
 

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On Trump's signs of Dementia, several videos demonstrating this have already been posted on this forum:
Who do you think will win Trump or Biden? (Posts #29 and #30)

But I will repost here the one that especially caught my attention. Note Pence's rather worried look in the cover image:


From another article on Trumps' likely condition:
Some of the symptoms fit with Alzheimer’s, but Trump has other symptoms that fit with dementia and not Alzheimer’s, specifically the slurring of the words, the awkward posture, because dementia does affect muscle and bone movement, and the irritability and impulsivity. Those are things you will see in dementia patients... Cognitive symptoms include memory loss, mental decline, confusion in the evening hours, disorientation, inability to speak or understand language, making things up, mental confusion or inability to recognize common things. Behavioral problems include irritability, personality changes, restlessness, lack of restraint or wandering and getting lost.
White House Insider Suggests Trump Suffering From Worsening Dementia - The Ring of Fire Network


On Tom Perez, and his connections to the Jesuits, George Soros, and illegal voting:
DNC Chairman Tom Perez Led Soros Group Lobbying for Illegal Alien Voting
New Democratic Party leader Tom Perez has deep Jesuit connections
LECF Blog

Something from the last link that especially rings true in light of the interpretation:

With the decision of the Democratic National Party on Saturday, February 25, to appoint as its new chair former Obama administration Secretary of Labor Tom Perez, Soros and his Open Society Foundations appear ready to pursue a full-out Saul Alinsky strategy of rubbing raw social tensions over race, immigration, and discrimination.... with Perez and Ellison at the head of the DNC, Soros will have additional leverage to transform the Democratic Party into an even more radical organization... one that contests in the courts every attempt by President Trump to control the borders and deport criminal illegal aliens... one that marches in the streets with the determination to break windows, block traffic, shout obscenities, and get into fist fights. Attacking the police is essential to Soros’ strategy to fund the politics of chaos for the radical hard-left organizing in the United States as part of an international socialist revolutionary movement. By funding Black Lives Matter, Soros intends to target every police officer unfortunate enough to be assigned to patrolling a minority community of a Democratic Party-controlled major city such as Baltimore or Detroit. Today, police officers risk ending their careers should they be forced in the line of duty to draw a weapon in self-defense to restrain a black teenager criminally wielding lethal force. When we understand that the agenda of Black Lives Matter is to cause chaos by intimidating police, we should not be surprised that murder rates are escalating in Chicago.

Now that Tom Perez is DNC chair, Soros can be expected to step up his enthusiastic funding of a host of Alinsky-like “community organizers.” These movement revolutionaries and anarchists are determined to delegitimize everything President Trump tries to accomplish. The chaos these hard-left radicals intend to create will be fueled by a mainstream media preconditioned to present radicals on the left as victims of the corrupt, capitalistic imperialism now epitomized by Trump. Determined that their radical causes have moral justification that transcends ideology, this hard-left Democratic Party will certainly abandon all respect for the First Amendment, in their determination to demonize and silence anyone who dares to object. The abuse hard-left Democratic ideologues are preparing to unleash on Hillary’s “deplorables” – those of us that former President Obama demeaned as “clinging” to our guns and our bibles – will have no precedent in U.S. political history.

...The point is that if Soros succeeds in undermining the authority upon which honest law enforcement intends to preserve, protect and defend civil society, he will have succeeded in opening the door to a politics of chaos that ultimately risks undermining the American Republic itself.



On how the potential for voter fraud on a large scale would be inherent in a vote-by-mail election:
Database Swells to 1,285 Proven Cases of Voter Fraud in America
https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/whitehouse.gov/files/docs/pacei-voterfraudcases.pdf

Two thirds of Americans know the potential for voter fraud is very real, despite every liberal establishment media outlet in the country loudly proclaiming it isn't:
Two-thirds of Americans say voting by mail would increase voter fraud, poll finds

There are numerous other links I could provide on virtually all of this, but I have limited it to a few for now.
He might have had a skin full.
 

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I will read all this tomorrow and pray as well, I am just very tired today...so will reply tomorrow.....I am probably more about trusting God to appoint Trump for a second term because I believe this will be the time of refreshing and renewal....ttyl.
 
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I have seen the look of concern on Pence's face before.

I believe a lot of Christians are already praying for Trump. However I do hope Christians equally pray for Biden though, and it's probably something we should step up on.

If Christians were to pray for Biden as much as they did for Trump, we possibly could see him step back on his position on issues like abortion. If Christians were to pray for the Democrats as much as they did for the Republicans, we could possibly see the Democrats move back towards the centre away from the far left. Same if us Aussie Christians were to pray for the Labor Party as much as we did for the Liberal Party. Miracles can happen.

The point here is to pray for all government.

1 Timothy 2:1-2
"Therefore I exhort first of all that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks be made for all men, for kings and all who are in authority, that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and reverence."
 
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Thanks for the response. Amazing how quiet this thread is so far.

In response, I'd say we could be facing a choice of praying God keeps a Hezekiah in office for four more years (four good years, hopefully), or ending up with an Ahab and Jezebel as the alternative, LoL.

But I will grant you one thing: Regardless of what we end up with, those who truly belong to God will not be easy for the enemy to get rid of. Like Elijah and Elisha, the Lord will sustain them no matter what, and manifest His power through them to display that He is greater than evil men, and the gods they serve.

So yes, you put it well. If we are on the Lord's side, no one will have the power to stand against us completely. Though it must be understood that the church will need to be prepared to withstand trails sooner rather than later.
I read through it all carefully shortly after you posted it but did not want to post the first reply. I'm not much of a political student, but I am concerned. After a while when I checked and saw still no response I plunged in...
In any case I am not expecting to see anything like Hezekiah. But... I won't tempt God by saying it is not possible!
Give God the glory!
 
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Symptoms are reversible in some cases as they may be caused by depression, thyroid issues, sleep disorders
- so much would depend on what is causing the issues to arise with the President.

That's encouraging, Rita.

Moreover, with a great many Christians praying, even what doctors say cannot be reversed actually could be. Nothing is impossible with God.
As Bob Woodward says, age 60 is young for a US President

I suppose we could pray for a 60 year old Trump, but that might be stretching it just a bit, LoL.
 

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I doubt whether one political system is better than the other.

Well, the issue isn't actually about the systems but rather who is supporting them. I think there was a time - maybe 25 years ago - when there were still good men on both sides. But as many here know, that is no longer the case. Similar to what happened with the Vatican (and I know you may not agree here), I think the DNC was badly subverted. The same could be said of the Republican Party in some ways, but not to the extent of the DNC. There are still a lot of godly men serving in the Republican Party. The same can no longer be said of the Democrats.
 

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I will read all this tomorrow and pray as well, I am just very tired today...so will reply tomorrow.....I am probably more about trusting God to appoint Trump for a second term because I believe this will be the time of refreshing and renewal....ttyl.


I doubted it at first, but I have come around to thinking we will likely see a renewal myself. Not the harvest yet, but a renewal, though I think it will actually be adverse circumstances that bring it about. We've needed to be brought to our knees, and I think the events that are coming will do it.

So I'm glad if that is what you focus on. I just have a different job, but nevertheless, as the scripture says, "Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things."