Adam, a picture of Christ

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Adam . . . who is the figure of Him that was to come.
(Romans 5:14)​

Adam is a figure of Christ.
how?

because through him death came to all?
no, that aspect makes him a picture of Satan.

the scripture calls him a picture of Christ.
how?

 

[keithr]

Adam is a figure of Christ. How?

Adam was the first man, the root or life-giver of the human race. Likewise, Jesus at his second advent will be the eternal life-giver of the human race.

 

[amigo de christo]

Adam was the first man, the root or life-giver of the human race. Likewise, Jesus at his second advent will be the eternal life-giver of the human race.

JESUS already is the life giver unto all who do recieve Him . As for when HE returns , to those who knew HIM not , its Wrath my friend .
Wrath .
So let us get the gospel out to all that has breath right now . For whether jew or gentile if one denies Christ , they go under the wrath
of GOD at the COMING of CHRIST .

 

[amigo de christo]

Adam . . . who is the figure of Him that was to come.
(Romans 5:14)​

Adam is a figure of Christ.
how?

because through him death came to all?
no, that aspect makes him a picture of Satan.

the scripture calls him a picture of Christ.
how?

Because Adam had no earthly father , nor did JESUS .
And all of mankind did come from adam

 

[bbyrd009]

Adam . . . who is the figure of Him that was to come.
(Romans 5:14)​

Adam is a figure of Christ.
how?

because through him death came to all?
no, that aspect makes him a picture of Satan.

the scripture calls him a picture of Christ.
how?

“figure” there is translated other ways, Romans 5:14 Nevertheless, death reigned from Adam until Moses, even over those who did not sin in the way that Adam transgressed. He is a pattern of the One to come.
that maybe kinda clear up the relationship a little

 

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“figure” there is translated other ways, Romans 5:14 Nevertheless, death reigned from Adam until Moses, even over those who did not sin in the way that Adam transgressed. He is a pattern of the One to come.
that maybe kinda clear up the relationship a little

what did Adam do that is a picture of Christ?

what did Adam do in a small way that Christ also did as the perfect divine antitype?

((antitype doesn't mean opposite; it means the fulfillment))

Adam is a shadow of Christ, in some way. not a contrast - he did something 'in part' or 'in like figure' that Christ did later but in completeness -- what does Adam do that is an image/figure/picture/type/representation/testimony of Christ?

 

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this is a 'do you actually understand scripture or just memorize it' thread

 

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“figure” there is translated other ways, Romans 5:14 Nevertheless, death reigned from Adam until Moses, even over those who did not sin in the way that Adam transgressed. He is a pattern of the One to come.
that maybe kinda clear up the relationship a little

to phrase it another way:

sin entered through Adam ((not Woman who sinned first, 1 Timothy 2)) and with it death came through sin but life came through Christ.
how does Adam prefigure the life that comes through Christ?

 

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Because Adam had no earthly father , nor did JESUS .
And all of mankind did come from adam

true but in the context of Romans 5 that ain't what Paul is talking about. the same would be true of Eve but she is never called a figure of Christ

 

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Adam was the first man, the root or life-giver of the human race. Likewise, Jesus at his second advent will be the eternal life-giver of the human race.

Adam could not give life alone; Christ does; He is life.

what does Adam do that is a prefigure of Christ?

go read Genesis 3 again very slowly and ask "why?" at every verse

 

[HisLife]

the scripture calls him a picture of Christ.
how?

Neat thread, How many answers can we give and how many paths can we explore, ill start with

He was made in his Image

Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, lafter our likeness: mand let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

Jesus Is the image of the invisible God

Colossians 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

For the question, id say You get a picture of life, But Jesus is the Life

 

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Neat thread, How many answers can we give and how many paths can we explore, ill start with

He was made in his Image

Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, lafter our likeness: mand let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

Jesus Is the image of the invisible God

Colossians 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

For the question, id say You get a picture of life, But Jesus is the Life

but what does Adam do that Christ does ?

we say we are all made in His image -- mankind is. ((is that true? in Genesis 1:26 'man' is singular, without the definite article. the word is 'man' not the name 'Adam'))
are we all a type/picture/pattern of Christ?
are we all made in His image or only Adam or only some of us?
is made in His image an inherent property of everyone who is human, righteous & wicked alike, saved and unsaved?
what does made in His image actually mean? why are we as being saved being conformed ((Romans 8:29, 2 Corinthians 3:18, Romans 12:2, Colossians 3:10, etc)) to His image if we're already made in His image? what's the difference?

Adam is specifically called a picture/type/pattern/figure/pick-a-translation-of-this-foreign-word of Christ.
he does something that's testifying of Christ. something that's recorded in Genesis 3.
what thing? how does it prefigure God manifest in the flesh? what does Jesus do, that is an exact and divine fulfillment of something Adam does?

 

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let's not memorize Romans 5:14 and Genesis 3.
let's know it

let's actually get this, and see Christ in Genesis 3 =]

 

[Curtis]

Adam . . . who is the figure of Him that was to come.
(Romans 5:14)​

Adam is a figure of Christ.
how?

because through him death came to all?
no, that aspect makes him a picture of Satan.

the scripture calls him a picture of Christ.
how?

The amplified bible explains:

Romans 5:14 Yet death held sway from Adam to Moses [the Lawgiver], even over those who did not themselves transgress [a positive command] as Adam did. Adam was a type (prefigure) of the One Who was to come [in reverse, the former destructive, the Latter saving]. [Gen. 5:5; 7:22; Deut. 34:5.]

So Adam is an antitype figure - he brought death to all, whereas Jesus’ death brought life for all.

The rest of the passage brings that fact out:

Rom 5:15 But the free gift is not like the trespass. For if many died through one man's trespass, much more have the grace of God and the free gift by the grace of that one man Jesus Christ abounded for many.

Rom 5:16 And the free gift is not like the result of that one man's sin. For the judgment following one trespass brought condemnation, but the free gift following many trespasses brought justification.

Rom 5:17 For if, because of one man's trespass, death reigned through that one man, much more will those who receive the abundance of grace and the free gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man Jesus Christ.

Rom 5:18 Therefore, as one trespass led to condemnation for all men, so one act of righteousness leads to justification and life for all men.

Maranatha


Jesus is the reverse Adam - he reversed what Adam did.

 

[quietthinker]

the scripture calls him a picture of Christ.
how?

in that he was representative of the race.

 

[keithr]

Adam could not give life alone; Christ does; He is life.

No other human (apart from Eve) would have existed and had life if it wasn't for Adam (and Eve). He was the father of the human race. Similarly Abraham was called the father of Israel:

Genesis 17:5

Your name will no more be called Abram, but your name will be Abraham; for I have made you the father of a multitude of nations.​

John 8:56

Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day. He saw it, and was glad.”​

1 Corinthians 15:22-21 (WEB):

(21) For since death came by man, the resurrection of the dead also came by man.
(22) For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive.​

1 Corinthians 15:45

(45) So also it is written, “The first man, Adam, became a living soul.” The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.​

 

[Robert Gwin]

Adam . . . who is the figure of Him that was to come.
(Romans 5:14)​

Adam is a figure of Christ.
how?

because through him death came to all?
no, that aspect makes him a picture of Satan.

the scripture calls him a picture of Christ.
how?

Jesus was Jehovah's firstborn spirit son, Adam was His firstborn human son. Both were perfect, cept Adam chose to stand in opposition to Jehovah.

 

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So Adam is an antitype figure - he brought death to all, whereas Jesus’ death brought life for all.

an·ti·type | \ ˈantə̇ˌtīp, -tē- also -(ˌ)tī-, ˈaan- \
Definition of antitype
1: something that corresponds to or is foreshadowed in a type
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Adam is a figure of Christ.
Adam does something that Christ does. Adam presages the thing Christ will later do - he is a foreshadow of the substance which is Christ.

Satan brought death to all: through Adam, by deceiving Adam's wife and thereby forcing Adam into making a certain decision.
Adam is not called a figure of Satan. he is called a figure of Christ.

there is a trial in Genesis 3 and Woman & Adam ((two witnesses)) testify that Satan is a liar and a murderer. Satan is cursed, Adam & Eve are not.
God hears their confessions and then sheds the blood of an innocent soul to make new coverings for them. ((repentance & substitutionary atonement)).
God does not do this for Satan.

 

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ok you guys need some help no one is recognizing it...


does Christ lay down His life for His bride?
does Adam lay down his life for the sake of his bride

does Christ love the church?
does Adam love his wife

did God humble Himself to be with us?
does Adam humble himself to be with her

 

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there is a space of time in which Adam, who was never deceived in this context ((1 Timothy 2)), is standing before his wife, who has been deceived and poisoned with death.
Adam recognizes what has happened and is aware of the implications. he is not deceived.
Adam is not stupid.
there are only two humans in that moment: Adam, who has life and is unpolluted, and Woman, who has been tricked and is poisoned with death.
Adam has to make a decision.

does Adam love his wife?
how much?
what is he willing to do to be with her, to keep her from being alone?

yes it's obviously sin, what he does. yes it has tremendous consequences.
but set that aside for a moment and consider his thought process: why did he do what he did?
what is he trying to accomplish?
what are his choices?
God said, 'because you listened to the voice of your wife'
-- what did she say to him?
she did not deceive him: 1 Timothy 2.
so what did he listen to? what was in her voice?

suppose you find yourself fooled & are poisoned with death and you run to your spouse --
what do you say to them? do you lie to them? do you try to kill them?

is he stupid? is he intelligent?
is the first man, made in the image of God, who walks and talks with God in Eden, an idiot?
did God create Adam stupid in God's image? or wise?
is Adam's decision uninformed or knowledgeable?
what does "not deceived" imply about him?


how is Adam a picture of Christ?