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Discussion in 'Eschatology & Prophecy Forum' started by CoreIssue, Apr 14, 2019.

  1. CoreIssue

    CoreIssue Well-Known Member

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    For disclosure I copied the chart posted by David L.

    As you can see the millennial kingdom and tribulation period co-exists in this thinking. They have already lasted over 2000 years.

    Christ has no earthly kingdom but rules from heaven.

    Satan has already been in the pit for 2000 years.

    Israel is never restore because of replacement theology.

    All the events of revelation and massive amounts of Old Testament prophecy are figurative, not literal.

    The second coming, rapture and end of time all happened at the same time.

    This belief began in the Catholic Church to justify their replacement theology and that they would be God's physical government on the earth.

    The claim Darby invented the pre-tribulation rapture is a lie.

    Examining an Ancient Pre-Trib Rapture Statement


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  2. Dave L

    Dave L Guest

    You are teaching your misunderstanding of the Amillennial position. Here is the correct understanding;
    Biblical Timeline leading up to the end
     
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    CoreIssue Well-Known Member

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    You are making a straw man argument based on your lack of study.
     
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    CoreIssue Well-Known Member

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    The Rapture
     
  6. Dave L

    Dave L Guest

    Where's the beef? You are still one verse shy of making any sense.
     
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    CoreIssue Well-Known Member

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  8. Dave L

    Dave L Guest

    I can't believe you would believe something you cannot prove from direct quotes from scripture. It is flesh faith and not Holy Spirit faith that comes only through hearing the Word.
     
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    Ah, what's that wonderful verse about a dog returning to his vomit?
    Once again you totally smear Amillennialism without a shred of biblical proof on your side. If you think all those things that you just listed are horrifyingly bad and wrong and shame on us...show us our 'bad' from scripture.
    I've lost track of the times I've plotted out the verses that SHOW the above things to be SAID in scripture. And all you do is complain and bellyache about how we're wrong.
    Newsflash! Your say-so means nothing! Show us from scripture how those things are wrong or just admit that all you're doing is repeating Dispensational catchphrases that they try and pass off as truisms without attempting to back anything by scripture.
    I'm getting sick of your hot air. And in truth, without God's word to back it up, that's all it is. If you're going to 'bring it' ...then bring it...bring God's word. Everything else is just whining.
     
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    Amillennialism itself is a lie -- a delusion, a fantasy, a myth. It was concocted by Augustine and has snared Christians ever since. Once people start making literal events figurative, there is no end to the fantasies they will spin. But since they love their fantasies, there's not much that can be done except to walk away.

    How could Darby invent the pre-tribulation Rapture when the Lord Jesus Christ stated it as an important divine promise back in John 14:1-3? Therefore Paul called it "the Blessed Hope" about 1900 years before there was even a John Nelson Darby.
     
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  12. Dave L

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    Matthew 24 has 4 ends of the world mentioned that Dispensationalists altogether miss. Hint, the rapture comes on the last day after the resurrection.
     
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    CoreIssue Well-Known Member

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    You didn't watch the video so how can you comment on it?
     
  14. Dave L

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    I know what they say before they say it. They all preach to the same deceived choir.
     
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    CoreIssue Well-Known Member

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    You have demonstrated do not many times.
     
  16. Dave L

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    They don't have any scripture to directly support their claims. You should hold them accountable and expect them to back their claims with direct quotes.
     
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    CoreIssue Well-Known Member

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    Pre-tribulation rapture 300s A.D.
     

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  18. Dave L

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    But not one scripture to directly support a pre-trib rapture or 7 year tribulation.
     
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    One could say the same thing about Dispensationalism, instead of being "concocted" by Augustine, by Darby instead. It becomes this giant 'tit for tat' thing, which is hardly helpful, wouldn't you agree? I feel it is much better to set aside 'who went there historically first' (even though it can be helpful in indepth studies) and just attempt to discuss the bible verses around the different views.

    You say that John 14 is 'evidence' of a Pre-tribulational Rapture, but I must question that interpretation. Christ most certainly speaks of returning for those who belong to him, but there is no mention of a timing. There is certainly nothing to suggest that this return will be 7 years before the end of human history.

    “Let not your hearts be troubled. Believe in God; believe also in me. In my Father's house are many rooms. If it were not so, would I have told you that I go to prepare a place for you? And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and will take you to myself, that where I am you may be also. -John 14:1–3

    So, the only thing John 14 is proof of is Christ's return for his own. And that is something that both Dispensationalists and Amillennialists believe in.
     
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