Are There Confessionals In Heaven?

[Webers_Home]

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If perchance people in heaven retained their human nature, I would have to
answer with a yes to the OP's question. But seeing as how Col 2:11 and 2Pet
1:2-4 testify that people in heaven have shed their human nature in
exchange for divine nature; then I think it's pretty safe to answer with a no.

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[Helen]

Agree....No.

 

[bbyrd009]

Catholics are pagans, and this is beyond ridiculous

 

[brakelite]

But seeing as how Col 2:11 and 2Pet
1:2-4 testify that people in heaven have shed their human nature

Those texts reveal that Christians on earth have shed their sinful human natures...the old natures are dead in Christ. This is a now thing, not a future thing. "Reckon ye yourselves also to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Christ Jesus".

 

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One of the Roman Church's earliest official proclamations regarding a
purgatory was Pope Leo X's Bull of Exurge Domine. In the year 1520 he
stated, along with some other things, that death is the termination not of
nature but of sin, and this inability to sin makes [purgatorial souls] secure of
final happiness; viz: according to Leo X, the occupants of a purgatory are
unable to sin; subsequently, they are sinless and will not commit new sins
while undergoing discipline and final purification.

Leo X's Bull is very important to Rome's followers because it's essential that
souls in a purgatory be incapable of sinning; or else Rome’s promise in CCC
1030 of an assured eternal salvation for purgatory's inmates would be a
tenuous guarantee indeed since each new sin committed while interred there
would add time to the penitent’s original sentence; with the very real
possibility of potentially snow-balling to the point where they would never be
cleared for heaven.

According to Leo X; death is the termination of sin. If that's true, then
people in heaven are just as unable to sin as people in a purgatory, else
were they to sin in heaven; they'd be recycled right back to purgatory for
discipline and purification all over again, and again, and again, and again.

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[BreadOfLife]

Catholics are pagans, and this is beyond ridiculous

And what dos this idiotic remark have to do wit the OP??
Catholics don't believe that there are confessionals in Heaven - so why the stupid comment?

 

[bbyrd009]

And what dos this idiotic remark have to do wit the OP??
Catholics don't believe that there are confessionals in Heaven - so why the stupid comment?

ah, at the time i thought WH was RCC, so i guess i owe him an apology
maybe it's a Pentecostal thing?
unclench, bro

 

[BreadOfLife]

ah, at the time i thought WH was RCC, so i guess i owe him an apology
maybe it's a Pentecostal thing?
unclench, bro

Then, knock it off with the moronic comments.

 

[bbyrd009]

Then, knock it off with the moronic comments.

pot/kettle much, do you think?

You know they have strays you can adopt for free, BoL; just go get yosef a female one bruh

 

[bbyrd009]

According to Leo X; death is the termination of sin.

who reads Leo X except Catholics? (rhetorical Q)

anyway, i looked for the comment i made on another of your threads about you counselling a "ship in a harbor" that i would now like to go amel...um, fix, any chance you know what thread i mean? you did have a point there. ty
(real Q)

 

[bbyrd009]

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If perchance people in heaven retained their human nature, I would have to
answer with a yes to the OP's question. But seeing as how Col 2:11 and 2Pet
1:2-4 testify that people in heaven have shed their human nature in
exchange for divine nature; then I think it's pretty safe to answer with a no.

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and i don't mean to razz you here, really, ok. But imo this just kind of indicates to me how far afield the religious might take a concept. The concept of rewards in the afterlife is straight out of some pagan mythology, i forget which, Stoicism prolly? First century Christians understood that there is no place called heaven, wadr.

the kingdom of heaven is at hand

 

[Angelina]

ah, at the time i thought WH was RCC, so i guess i owe him an apology
maybe it's a Pentecostal thing?
unclench, bro

It is not a Pentecostal thing and no...I agree with the O/P

 

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Producing enough piety during one's lifetime in order to get to heaven would
be difficult enough. But people who make it to heaven don't face a lifetime;
no, they're facing eternity. Producing piety for that long has to be even
harder.

According to Rom 6:23, the wages of sin is death. Well; if the wages of sin is
death down here, wouldn't the wages of sin be death up there too? I can't
imagine why not. So then, it seems to me that unless people in heaven were
110% sinless in thought, word, and deed; they'd be living under a sword of
Damocles, hanging by a slender thread easily broken by the slightest
impiety; and thus finding themselves booted out of heaven right quick.

I gave this problem a lot of thought back in the decade of the 1960s and
came to the conclusion that I was pretty much destined for hell seeing as
how there was just no way I could ever manage to be pious enough to go to
heaven. Well; you can imagine my excitement when I came across the
passage below in the Old Testament.

● Ezek 36:24-27 . . I will take you from among the nations and gather you
from all the countries, and I will bring you to your land. And I will sprinkle
clean water upon you, and you will be clean; from all your impurities and
from all your abominations will I cleanse you. And I will give you a new
heart, and a new spirit will I put within you, and I will take away the heart of
stone out of your flesh, and I will give you a heart of flesh. And I will put My
spirit within you and bring it about that you will walk in My statutes and you
will keep My ordinances and do them.

That promise in its entirety was made to the people of Israel; but according
to Eph 2:11-19, portions of it are available to non Jews too.

Some folk don't like that promise because they say it makes people into
robots. Well; I'll let you in on something: I'd rather be a robot in heaven
than a free agent in hell.

FYI: I was baptized an infant into Roman Catholicism and went on to
catechism where I completed First Holy Communion and Confirmation. I
remained loyal to the Church for twenty-four years before defecting and
going over to Protestantism in 1968. My denomination of choice has been
Conservative Baptist ever since.

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i looked for the comment i made on another of your threads about you
counselling a "ship in a harbor" that i would now like to go amel...um, fix,
any chance you know what thread i mean? you did have a point there.

I remember what you're talking about but honestly can't recall where it's
located. Sorry.

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[bbyrd009]

The concept of rewards in the afterlife is straight out of some pagan mythology, i forget which, Stoicism prolly?

ah, the Roman cult of Sol Invictus, i guess
"
...and the two "murderers" who were crucified along side him quite clearly represent the Pharisees (the contrite one, who would resurrect together with the Lord — Luke 23:43) and the Sadducees (the doomed mocker).

Allowing for some flexibility, early evangelism may very well be regarded as a hybrid offshoot of a marriage between Jewish Pharisaism and Greek Stoicism. Of course, this new Temple of YHWH was again destroyed when Constantine took its key phrases and glued these onto the smoldering skeleton of the cult of Sol Invictus. The result was deeply pagan — an inflated imperial personality cult with its cumbersome Trinitarian dogma reviving the Capitoline Triad and its parade of saints the Greco-Roman pantheon of demigods — and thrust the world into 1,500 years of intellectual darkness.

The once vast and utterly sophisticated cultures of the Phoenicians, Illyrians, Celts and countless others were steamrolled out of existence by Rome and its blasphemous legacy, but..." The amazing name Pharisees: meaning and etymology

 

[bbyrd009]

It is not a Pentecostal thing and no...I agree with the O/P

hey, as long as heaven is understood to be a state, i do too!
kind of

 

[bbyrd009]

Confessionals? ya, maybe not--that's the closet pagans go into to confess to men they call father in the dark, right;
Quote that one for me real quick if you would pls

 

[forrestcupp]

and i don't mean to razz you here, really, ok. But imo this just kind of indicates to me how far afield the religious might take a concept. The concept of rewards in the afterlife is straight out of some pagan mythology, i forget which, Stoicism prolly? First century Christians understood that there is no place called heaven, wadr.

the kingdom of heaven is at hand

What do you think happens to people when they die? Is it just over after that, or what?

 

[mjrhealth]

and so teh darkness gets darker and teh falling away continues. Has not God suffered enough with mens ignorance...

 

[bbyrd009]

@mjrhealth are you addressing the op there mjr?

What do you think happens to people when they die? Is it just over after that, or what?

ha well if ppl all die, they go extinct, right?
i pretty much believe what the Bible says there; we don't know and we can't even imagine, is the interpretation i get.
and my experience herenow with imagining some place that i highly anticipate going to but have never seen being what it is, i don't see much sense wasting time imagining about it myself.