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  1. Elihoenai

    Elihoenai Member

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    Romans 8:1-2 King James Version (KJV)

    8 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

    2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.


    Do you think you are free from the Law? How can you be free from the Law when you cannot stop Sinning?
     
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    Not entirely sure what your point is?
    Do you mean that, if a person continues to sin that he will be judged by the Law. If so, that's wrong, for a Christian is under grace.
    Or, do you mean that his continuous sins reveals his lack of faith, and therefore, is not a Christian? If so, he still will not be under the Law, but under rejection of Christ and Faith.
    And, only those who prefer to live by the Law, and denounce Christ, will be judged by the Law (Romans 2:12).

    Or, do you mean that one who sins, is a slave to sin, and therefore under the compulsion that the Law incites to sin? If so, that's a strange interpretation.
     
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    1 Timothy 1:8 "But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully;
    1 Timothy 1:9 "Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,
    1 Timothy 1:10 "For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine"

    and our righteousness is in Christ Jesus.

    PICJAG.
     
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    Romans 8:7 King James Version (KJV)

    7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.


    A person that continues to Sin and has the inclination to Sin is under the Law. The Natural/Carnal Man is under the Law. Rejection of the Law, is the rejection of Messiah/Christ.

    There are two Powerful types that have put themselves above the Law. Do you know who these two Powerful types are?
     
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    Did Yeshua Messiah/Jesus Christ practice the Law?
     
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    Waiting on him Well-Known Member

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    Of course He did He was a jew, I never was or will be.

    Are you a jew?
     
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    Waiting on him Well-Known Member

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    With what is going on in the world currently it would likely be profitable to all to practice the laws of the old testament, concerning baptisms. Interestingly though Jesus didn't wash His hands before He ate?
     
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    Who is a Jew? What makes a Jew? There are Racial, Ethnoreligious and Religious Jews.
     
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    In my opinion jews are a lineage of people who existed prior to 70Ad whom tried to justify themselves through laws given of God to Moses and exercised through the levitical preisthood. I personally wasn't instructed of these laws, though upon reading about them I see how I can benefit through following them, but also see that I can't be justified through performing them. I hope this answers your questions.
     
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    I also have a question for you, why do you believe scripture says Jesus didn't wash his hands prior to eating?
     
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    No one can ever achieve a perfect sinless life here on earth...
    This author did an excellent job of explaining scriptures on sin.
    Can a Christian achieve sinless perfection? | CARM.org
     
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    No he practice the spirit of the Law, by fulfilling it. for being born under it, he freed us from it.

    PICJAG.
     
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    first thanks for the reply, second, Galatians 3:17 "And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.
    Galatians 3:18 "For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise.
    Galatians 3:19 "Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator"

    PICJAG.

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    Sorry Elihoenai, I don't agree with your brief, and thus, strange premises?
    You need to explain your position further, in order for people to understand these complex and controversial issues. i.e. Law of Works, Law of Faith, Antinomianism, Faith & Works, etc...
    Therefore, due to your deficient understanding of the subject at hand, I am almost convinced that you do not know who the 'two powerful types are', or even that there is such an entity.
    Seriously!
     
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    As you said, Yeshua Messiah/Jesus Christ, being a Jew, practised the Law. Therefore, to be in Yeshua Messiah/Jesus Christ you must practise the Law.

    Gentiles must be Circumcised to be Saved! Is the United States a Jewish Nation, given that they are a Circumcised Nation?


    Prevalence of circumcision


    "...United States

    During the 2000s, the prevalence of circumcision in men aged 14–59 differed by race: 91 percent of white men, 76 percent of black men, and 44 percent of Hispanic men were circumcised, according to data in Mayo Clinic Proceedings...."

    Prevalence of circumcision - Wikipedia
     
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    Luke 11:39-40 King James Version (KJV)

    39 And the Lord said unto him, Now do ye Pharisees make clean the outside of the cup and the platter; but your inward part is full of ravening and wickedness.

    40 Ye fools, did not he that made that which is without make that which is within also?


    Yeshua/Jesus is teaching the Pharisees that his doings are for Elohim/God.
     
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    But the law concerning baptisms in the mossaic law says wash your hands?
     
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    Matthew 5:48 King James Version (KJV)

    48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.


    That is a broken link that you posted.

    We only listen to Yeshua/Jesus and totally reject lying Satanist. You must be Sinless and Perfect.
     
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    Romans 7:23 King James Version (KJV)

    23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.


    Therefore, if you continue to Sin and have the inclination to Sin, you remain under the Law.
     
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    Amen!!!
     
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