"AS WERE THE DAYS OF NOAH"

[RR144]

In Matt. 24:37-39 Jesus gives a strong proof of the fact that mankind would not physically see Him in His Second Advent: "As were the days of Noah, so shall be the coming [Greek, parousia, presence, margin] of the Son of man. For as in those days which were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage … and they knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall be the coming [Greek, parousia, presence, margin] of the Son of man" (ASV). In this passage Jesus shows that the people in their acts and in their ignorance of the impending trouble just before the flood and during His own Second Presence just before the Great Tribulation would be alike.

As in the days of Noah before the flood, the people were engaged in the ordinary activities of social life, but because of unbelief in the preaching of a coming flood were ignorant of its impendency, so during Christ's Second Presence just before the Great Tribulation would burst upon the world, the people would engage in the ordinary activities of social life, entirely ignorant of the coming tribulation because disbelieving the testimony respecting it and its cause, Christ's Second Presence. That among other things in these verses the time of Noah's presence before the flood is compared with the time of Christ's Second Presence before the Great Tribulation, is manifest also from Luke 17:26:

"And as it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man." Here the expression "in the days of the Son of man," a certain period of His Second Advent, is used as the parallel of the expression "the presence of the Son of man" in Matt. 24:37, which proves that the passage compares the periods to which it refers. See also Luke 17:28-30. How, we ask, can it be that Jesus could be present and yet the people in general would be ignorant of this fact, as well as of the Time of Trouble coming? If they would be able physically to see Him, of course they would know of His Presence and would expect the trouble to follow. The fact of their ignorance of His Presence necessarily implies that He would be hidden from their physical eyes, and so His Return must be invisible to their physical eyes.

 

[Keturah]

Luke 21

 

[bbyrd009]

In Matt. 24:37-39 Jesus gives a strong proof of the fact that mankind would not physically see Him in His Second Advent: "As were the days of Noah, so shall be the coming [Greek, parousia, presence, margin] of the Son of man. For as in those days which were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage … and they knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall be the coming [Greek, parousia, presence, margin] of the Son of man" (ASV). In this passage Jesus shows that the people in their acts and in their ignorance of the impending trouble just before the flood and during His own Second Presence just before the Great Tribulation would be alike.

As in the days of Noah before the flood, the people were engaged in the ordinary activities of social life, but because of unbelief in the preaching of a coming flood were ignorant of its impendency, so during Christ's Second Presence just before the Great Tribulation would burst upon the world, the people would engage in the ordinary activities of social life, entirely ignorant of the coming tribulation because disbelieving the testimony respecting it and its cause, Christ's Second Presence. That among other things in these verses the time of Noah's presence before the flood is compared with the time of Christ's Second Presence before the Great Tribulation, is manifest also from Luke 17:26:

"And as it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man." Here the expression "in the days of the Son of man," a certain period of His Second Advent, is used as the parallel of the expression "the presence of the Son of man" in Matt. 24:37, which proves that the passage compares the periods to which it refers. See also Luke 17:28-30. How, we ask, can it be that Jesus could be present and yet the people in general would be ignorant of this fact, as well as of the Time of Trouble coming? If they would be able physically to see Him, of course they would know of His Presence and would expect the trouble to follow. The fact of their ignorance of His Presence necessarily implies that He would be hidden from their physical eyes, and so His Return must be invisible to their physical eyes.

well, good luck with that here, but nice imo
keturah apparently disagrees, so thats one in your favor lol

 

[Gandalf-]

I don't know what kind of lying nonsense you feel you have to peddle in general is, but everything you say here is wrong, and taken out of context. And even an idiot can see what you are posting is pure unadulterated puzzle factory rejected nonsense.

You try and play a clever game, in which you post Matthew 24:37-39, with Luke 17:26, and try and pretend that that is the end of it. You try and Falsely take the time-frame of Matthew 24:37-39 and Falsely Compress all of that into Luke 17:26, and try and pretend that is it all. And that is why you juggle your post back and forth to try and pretend Mat 24:37-39 is exactly the same as Luke 17:26 ----But what you fail to tell everyone is that your Luke 17:26, is just like Mat 24:37-39, a larger periscope of text than you imply. Luke 17:26 in context includes within the actual passage so much more, including Luke 17:30

Luke 17:30 "It will be just the same on the day that the Son Of Man is revealed" and pretend that Lk 17:26 instead in talking about "also in the days of the Son Of Man," is the exact same thing as the Day of the Son Of Man in Lk 17:30.

The Days of Noah, plural in time, is a reference as to the final prophetic warning of the final 120 years, in the days of Noah, when God would only strive with man for another 120 years. It is a reference to a time-frame, which both Mat 24:37-39 and Lk 17:26-30 [ with even more relevant material in even more surrounding verses cover, ] likewise cover, and compliment each other in a context which you skew and lie about.

God enthroned the Book of Psalms prophetically in 1900 as to represent the 20th and 21st centuries. And after being enthroned, as were kings in the A.N.E., in which after it's 1st year of enthronement, began it's / their count of Regal, or numbered upon their throne years. And as such the Book of Psalms began it's prophetic count of years in 1901, to psalm 1, etc.., -----But God very judicially, or in a very limited maner applied a few prophecies to a few psalms / years. And thus the 90th psalm, the only one to have been know to have been written by Moses, stood for 1990, where Moses asks God to teach Israel the number of their years, with the answer given of 70, or 80 years, if by strength.

And so the Days of the Son of Man, like the Days of Noah, were / are the final 120 years of Man.

1) 1990 + up to 80 years = up to 2070 AD.
2) The destruction of the Temple in Israel in 70 AD + 2,000 years, two prophetic days of 1,000
years each = up to 2070 AD [ where God had 3 sets of 2,000 for larger time references ]
3) Israel was reestablished in 1948 + 120 years, the Days of Noah, = up to 2068 AD
4) Israel retook East Jerusalem in 1967 + 100 years ( a prophetic generation, ) - up to 2067 AD.

And so God has given us a prophetic time-frame, of up to 2060 AD, to 2070 AD, which while denying an exact time, to deny time setting, still gives us a larger time-frame, in answer to the rising of mockers, who mock and come to mock, an actual return of Christ, by asking where is the promise of his return?

They do this because of two lying books on the rapture / return in particular, 88 Reasons Why The Rapture Will Be In 88, and The Late Great Planet Earth, both of which held the wrong view that a prophetic generation was 40 years, and so 1948 + 40 = 1988 AD. -----And since then many Christians were so bent on believing that, that they began then to invent Christ must return by 2000 AD, and then after that invented blood moon nonsense to insist Christ must return by 2012 AD, etc..,

S0 you completely take a final 120 year reference of the Days of Noah, which shows the beginning of a final 120 year countdown from Enthronement in 1900 / Regal Count in 1901 - to establish the rest of the coming signs - and you conflate Lk 17:26 as being the esact same things as Mt 24 24:37-39 - Ignoring Luke was a larger context periscope just like in Mt 24:, that included more than just Lk 17:26


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[Keturah]

@Berean , what is your religious affiliation, please ?

Anyone can pick " Christianity" as a faith and be sooooooo far from the TRUTH OF THE WORD !

 

[Taken]

AS WERE THE DAYS OF NOAH​

OP^

People going about their business, which today is:
Rushing, Playing, Entertainment, Trying to get paid for doing least or nothing.

Noah was preparing.
Noah entered the ark.
Noah was raise up above the earth, above the Mountain tops, in the clouds.

For the People unprepared...rain fell...water from the deep rose up..drowned.

It’s an event that destroyed the Earth, and those upon the face of the Earth.
(Called the First Great Tribulation)...

A Next, Second Great (and Last) Tribulation Shall occur.

Some will carry on playing, partying, being entertained.
Some will prepare.

The prepared shall be lifted up off the face of the Earth to the Clouds.

The Earth be plagued by 21 Events each increasing in severity, and woes.

For the unprepared...chaos...plagues...deaths.

Nothing new under the sun. If you know not what was, you will likely not be prepared for what shall come.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

I don't know what kind of lying nonsense you feel you have to peddle in general is, but everything you say here is wrong, and taken out of context. And even an idiot can see what you are posting is pure unadulterated puzzle factory rejected nonsense.

You try and play a clever game, in which you post Matthew 24:37-39, with Luke 17:26, and try and pretend that that is the end of it. You try and Falsely take the time-frame of Matthew 24:37-39 and Falsely Compress all of that into Luke 17:26, and try and pretend that is it all. And that is why you juggle your post back and forth to try and pretend Mat 24:37-39 is exactly the same as Luke 17:26 ----But what you fail to tell everyone is that your Luke 17:26, is just like Mat 24:37-39, a larger periscope of text than you imply. Luke 17:26 in context includes within the actual passage so much more, including Luke 17:30

Luke 17:30 "It will be just the same on the day that the Son Of Man is revealed" and pretend that Lk 17:26 instead in talking about "also in the days of the Son Of Man," is the exact same thing as the Day of the Son Of Man in Lk 17:30.

The Days of Noah, plural in time, is a reference as to the final prophetic warning of the final 120 years, in the days of Noah, when God would only strive with man for another 120 years. It is a reference to a time-frame, which both Mat 24:37-39 and Lk 17:26-30 [ with even more relevant material in even more surrounding verses cover, ] likewise cover, and compliment each other in a context which you skew and lie about.

God enthroned the Book of Psalms prophetically in 1900 as to represent the 20th and 21st centuries. And after being enthroned, as were kings in the A.N.E., in which after it's 1st year of enthronement, began it's / their count of Regal, or numbered upon their throne years. And as such the Book of Psalms began it's prophetic count of years in 1901, to psalm 1, etc.., -----But God very judicially, or in a very limited maner applied a few prophecies to a few psalms / years. And thus the 90th psalm, the only one to have been know to have been written by Moses, stood for 1990, where Moses asks God to teach Israel the number of their years, with the answer given of 70, or 80 years, if by strength.

And so the Days of the Son of Man, like the Days of Noah, were / are the final 120 years of Man.

1) 1990 + up to 80 years = up to 2070 AD.
2) The destruction of the Temple in Israel in 70 AD + 2,000 years, two prophetic days of 1,000
years each = up to 2070 AD [ where God had 3 sets of 2,000 for larger time references ]
3) Israel was reestablished in 1948 + 120 years, the Days of Noah, = up to 2068 AD
4) Israel retook East Jerusalem in 1967 + 100 years ( a prophetic generation, ) - up to 2067 AD.

And so God has given us a prophetic time-frame, of up to 2060 AD, to 2070 AD, which while denying an exact time, to deny time setting, still gives us a larger time-frame, in answer to the rising of mockers, who mock and come to mock, an actual return of Christ, by asking where is the promise of his return?

They do this because of two lying books on the rapture / return in particular, 88 Reasons Why The Rapture Will Be In 88, and The Late Great Planet Earth, both of which held the wrong view that a prophetic generation was 40 years, and so 1948 + 40 = 1988 AD. -----And since then many Christians were so bent on believing that, that they began then to invent Christ must return by 2000 AD, and then after that invented blood moon nonsense to insist Christ must return by 2012 AD, etc..,

S0 you completely take a final 120 year reference of the Days of Noah, which shows the beginning of a final 120 year countdown from Enthronement in 1900 / Regal Count in 1901 - to establish the rest of the coming signs - and you conflate Lk 17:26 as being the esact same things as Mt 24 24:37-39 - Ignoring Luke was a larger context periscope just like in Mt 24:, that included more than just Lk 17:26

You disagree with Berean that fine, that's your right, but I disagree with you. So, since you think any idiot as you say, can see Berean is spreading lies I guess you can think of me as someone who's not an idiot who believes what you're saying isn't true.

 

[Gandalf-]

You disagree with Berean that fine, that's your right, but I disagree with you. So, since you think any idiot as you say, can see Berean is spreading lies I guess you can think of me as someone who's not an idiot who believes what you're saying isn't true.

Well that figures, because you either chose not to read carefully, or you simply do not care about what I had to say, in context.

I was calling him out for playing with / manipulating the texts dishonestly to provide the result he wanted.

I stated basically that Luke 17:26 says "And just as it happened in the days of Noah, so it shall be also in the days of the Son of Man," - a comparison of plural days, with plural days.

I went on to prove that Luke 17:30 says "It will be just the same on the day that the Son of Man is revealed," a singular reference to the day of the Lord being the very same day of the return of Christ at Armageddon, in Rev 19:

i have no quarrel with you, and only wish to say God Bless, even if we do disagree. ****My Stance was / is, that the entire Periscope that God gave was a larger text / periscope of study than merely Lk 17:26 by itself, taken out of context to be forcibly compressed by him, to try and equate that one verse with the three verses of MT 24:37-39 to claim both gospels said the same exact thing, in the exact same way.

I contend the more appropriate text should have had just one more verse, and should have been MT 24:36-39 to be compared exactly with LK 17:30, rather than LK 17:26 - because then both texts were indeed then refer to the Day of the Lord / return of Christ.

Then both MT 24: and LK 17: could be taken together in their larger parallel context, with LK 17:26 referring to the Days of Noah, with it's 120 final years before the actual judgement / flood - And LK 17:30 then referring to the actual judgement day / return, together, to give the combined intended context, of the eating and drinking, etc.., to show a final up to 120 year timeframe.

The 70 year Jeremiah prophesied captivity, counted within the same context of the Ezekiel 430 year captivity, and Daniel near the end of the 70 year captivity, was given his 70 sevens prophecy, etc.., detailing the 1st advent of Christ, and so on - And so with the remaining 360 years left of Ezekiel's captivity, in which Israel had not repented during the 70 year captivity, was thus visited upon them 7 times more, or 360 * 7, giving the larger 2,520 remaining years of captivity.

And so for the context exclusively to deal with Israel, a prophetic solar year of 360 days for Israel was used, and therefore a time of ( 2520 * 360 ) / 365.2422 gives approx 2483.83+ years, - in context of the 70 year captivity starting ( with some scholars counts given as 1 year further along, ) in 606 BC, with a further fulfilment in 597 BC, and a further fulfillment in 586 BC. Both 606, and 586 offset by 70 years each, with partial returns figured at a few dates, including approx 539 BC, etc.., - But with the two 70 year offsets giving 536 and 516 C - and the 2483.83+ years from 536 and 516 gives 1948 and 1967 AD ( depending on offset by which months, for the reestablishment of modern Israel, and the retaking of East Jerusalem.

So with the larger context of 1948 for the reestablishment of modern Israel + 120 years, or the warning of the Days of Noah gives us up to 2068 AD. And the book of Psalms enthroned in 1900, but beginning it's Regal count in 1901, matches a few select year matching date prophecies, including the 90th psalm being the only known psalm of Moses, where Moses asks God to teach Israel to count their days, with the response given being 70, or 80 years if by strength - so 1990 + 80, equals up to 2070 AD. And the retaking of East Jerusalem gives the final 100 years prophetic generation of 1967 + 100 = up to 2067 AD ( as per a prophetic generation being the 430 year Egyptian captivity, of exactly 4 generations, minus the 30 years of sojourning in Egypt. )

So we have a very precise / approximate end times time frame, including a 120 year final warning, like the Days of Noah.

 

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

Well that figures, because you either chose not to read carefully, or you simply do not care about what I had to say, in context.

I was calling him out for playing with / manipulating the texts dishonestly to provide the result he wanted.

I stated basically that Luke 17:26 says "And just as it happened in the days of Noah, so it shall be also in the days of the Son of Man," - a comparison of plural days, with plural days.

I went on to prove that Luke 17:30 says "It will be just the same on the day that the Son of Man is revealed," a singular reference to the day of the Lord being the very same day of the return of Christ at Armageddon, in Rev 19:

i have no quarrel with you, and only wish to say God Bless, even if we do disagree. ****My Stance was / is, that the entire Periscope that God gave was a larger text / periscope of study than merely Lk 17:26 by itself, taken out of context to be forcibly compressed by him, to try and equate that one verse with the three verses of MT 24:37-39 to claim both gospels said the same exact thing, in the exact same way.

I contend the more appropriate text should have had just one more verse, and should have been MT 24:36-39 to be compared exactly with LK 17:30, rather than LK 17:26 - because then both texts were indeed then refer to the Day of the Lord / return of Christ.

Then both MT 24: and LK 17: could be taken together in their larger parallel context, with LK 17:26 referring to the Days of Noah, with it's 120 final years before the actual judgement / flood - And LK 17:30 then referring to the actual judgement day / return, together, to give the combined intended context, of the eating and drinking, etc.., to show a final up to 120 year timeframe.

The 70 year Jeremiah prophesied captivity, counted within the same context of the Ezekiel 430 year captivity, and Daniel near the end of the 70 year captivity, was given his 70 sevens prophecy, etc.., detailing the 1st advent of Christ, and so on - And so with the remaining 360 years left of Ezekiel's captivity, in which Israel had not repented during the 70 year captivity, was thus visited upon them 7 times more, or 360 * 7, giving the larger 2,520 remaining years of captivity.

And so for the context exclusively to deal with Israel, a prophetic solar year of 360 days for Israel was used, and therefore a time of ( 2520 * 360 ) / 365.2422 gives approx 2483.83+ years, - in context of the 70 year captivity starting ( with some scholars counts given as 1 year further along, ) in 606 BC, with a further fulfilment in 597 BC, and a further fulfillment in 586 BC. Both 606, and 586 offset by 70 years each, with partial returns figured at a few dates, including approx 539 BC, etc.., - But with the two 70 year offsets giving 536 and 516 C - and the 2483.83+ years from 536 and 516 gives 1948 and 1967 AD ( depending on offset by which months, for the reestablishment of modern Israel, and the retaking of East Jerusalem.

So with the larger context of 1948 for the reestablishment of modern Israel + 120 years, or the warning of the Days of Noah gives us up to 2068 AD. And the book of Psalms enthroned in 1900, but beginning it's Regal count in 1901, matches a few select year matching date prophecies, including the 90th psalm being the only known psalm of Moses, where Moses asks God to teach Israel to count their days, with the response given being 70, or 80 years if by strength - so 1990 + 80, equals up to 2070 AD. And the retaking of East Jerusalem gives the final 100 years prophetic generation of 1967 + 100 = up to 2067 AD ( as per a prophetic generation being the 430 year Egyptian captivity, of exactly 4 generations, minus the 30 years of sojourning in Egypt. )

So we have a very precise / approximate end times time frame, including a 120 year final warning, like the Days of Noah.

All I'm saying is that I disagree with you. I don't believe that Berean was manipulating the texts dishonestly to provide the result he wanted, just because you say so. I myself disagree with your year 2067 and how you determined that, but I know you honestly believe that what you said to be true. So you and I will disagree, which is fine, we both have the right to disagree.

 

[Gandalf-]

All I'm saying is that I disagree with you. I don't believe that Berean was manipulating the texts dishonestly to provide the result he wanted, just because you say so. I myself disagree with your year 2067 and how you determined that, but I know you honestly believe that what you said to be true. So you and I will disagree, which is fine, we both have the right to disagree.

Well I still; say he was because he used the wrong verse in Luke to connect his joining it with Matthew, and the two verses in Luke, in the same periscope context, both when taken together, contradicts his conclusion anyway.

God bless, and have a good night

 

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

Well I still; say he was because he used the wrong verse in Luke to connect his joining it with Matthew, and the two verses in Luke, in the same periscope context, both when taken together, contradicts his conclusion anyway.

God bless, and have a good night

You're still not getting the point that I was trying to make. I could have said you are being dishonest and manipulative concerning the texts to get the result you wanted when and how you determined that year 2067. But though I disagree with you in how you determined that year, that doesn't mean I believe that you dishonestly manipulated the text. Like I said, I think you honestly said what you said as being true because you honestly believe that it is true. I don't think you were trying to dishonestly manipulate the texts. I just disagree with the year and how you determined that year. So instead of charging Berean with being manipulative and dishonest just agree to disagree with him. Tell him why you disagree with him but don't charge him with being dishonest and manipulative just because he's saying something he honestly believes to be true just as I believe about you even though I disagree with you.

 

[Taken]

“AS WERE THE DAYS OF NOAH”
OP^


In fact...there is a GLARING Difference Between WHAT Noah WAS DOING and WHAT the rest of the population of the World WAS DOING.

WHAT Noah was DOING, was Listening, Hearing, Doing, Preparing, bit by bit, step by step As God Directed him.

WHAT the World at large was DOING, was ignoring God, not Listening to God, not Hearing God, not Doing one iota of Gods Direction.

Noah IS: a supreme EXAMPLE of ONE MAN, willing to ignore the whole world, and patiently (for years), bit by bit, step by step, PREPARE himself and his family, ACCORDING TO Gods direction.

And Noah’s REWARD? EXCEPTION FROM:
Gods Anger, Gods Wrath, Gods Tribulations sent down from Heaven upon the face of the Earth.

Nothing New...the World at Large...ignored God in Noah’s Day.
Nothing New...the World at Large...IS ignoring God in THIS DAY.

Nothing New...the World at Large...upon the face of the earth WAS destroyed.
Nothing New...the World at Large...upon the face of the earth SHALL be destroyed.

Nothing New...FEW were RISEN UP ABOVE the face of the Earth in Noahs day.
Nothing New...FEW shall be RISEN UP ABOVE the face of the Earth in the Lords day.

Gen 7:
[4] For yet seven days, and I will cause it to rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights; and every living substance that I have made will I destroy from off the face of the earth.

Gen 7:
[15] And they went in unto Noah into the ark, two and two of all flesh, wherein is the breath of life.
[17] And the flood was forty days upon the earth; and the waters increased, and bare up the ark, and it was lift up above the earth.

1 Thes 4:
[17] Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

Nothing New...

Ecc 1:
[9] The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.

Pay Attention:
Learn the KNOWLEDGE,
Heed the WARNING,
Grasp the UNDERSTANDING.

What NOAH was DOING, is the High-light...UP...righteous
What the World at Large was DOING, is the Dim-light...DOWN...destruction


Glory to God,
Taken