Astrology and the Christian - What's Your Sign?

[St. SteVen]

Recently I had a conversation with someone that guessed my astrological sign.
I thought that was curious.

Growing up in the evangelical church, astrology had always been frowned upon.
But I wondered about the signs referred in Genesis chapter one.

And God said, “Let there be lights in the vault of the sky to separate the day from the night,
and let them serve as signs to mark sacred times, and days and years,
15 and let them be lights in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth.”
And it was so. - Genesis 1:14-15 NIV

The wise men from the East used the stars to find the birth place of Christ.

Today I went online to see what was said about my sign.
A surprisingly accurate description based on my birth sign.
Some of the negative aspects didn't fit.
I wondered if my relationship with God negated them.

Let's discuss.

Previous forum topics on the subject:

Astrology​

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Astronomy or Astrology? Which did God give to us in the stars when He created them for signs?​

Is Astrology Evil?​

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The Sin Of Astrology​

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[Lambano]

What's Your Sign?​

 

[St. SteVen]

What's Your Sign?​

I should say at this point that caution is in order.
I'm not encouraging anyone to seek counsel from astrologers.
I do find it curious that astrology can tell you about yourself based on your birth sign.
Where do you draw the line? Have others looked into it?

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[St. SteVen]

I should say at this point that caution is in order.
I'm not encouraging anyone to seek counsel from astrologers.
I do find it curious that astrology can tell you about yourself based on your birth sign.
Where do you draw the line? Have others looked into it?

I did some quick research into the problems with astrology.
The article I found took a different tack than I expected.
It pointed to the inaccuracies caused by the generalization of sun signs.
Say what?

Apparently, the sun signs (better known as the signs of the zodiac) are limited
due to their generalized scope. They cover a period of days in the solar year
rather than a specific birth date. (00/00/0000) A specific birth date would
include the influences of other planets and the moon.

The article also covered other significant issues such as commercialization,
misinterpretation, cultural influences, confirmation bias, Scientific skepticism,
neglect of free-will and personal responsibility, and inconsistent standards
among practitioners.

Source

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[St. SteVen]

I did some quick research into the problems with astrology.

Another article cited the dangers of spiritual bypassing.
From a psychotherapy POV.

There are several ways that spiritual bypassing may present itself:

• anger avoidance, or even fear of
  anger (anger phobia)
• overemphasizing the positive and
  only focusing on the “good” stuff
• judgement of others for feeling
  “negative” feelings
• repressing painful memories and
  experiences
• emotional numbing
• valuing spirituality more than
  lived experiences, reality, and your true self
• claims or delusion of having
  arrived at a “higher” level of being

Questions to ask yourself about your astrological habits​

• Do you feel like the driver of
  your own life, or like something else (the stars, the moon, the planet, etc.)
  are in control?
• Are you reading many different
  horoscopes until one tells you what you want to hear?
• Do you feel like your life isn’t
  changing, even though you’ve been regularly utilizing astrology?
• Do you find yourself blaming all
  negative emotions on the stars or horoscopes?
• Do you feel like you’ve found a “quick-fix”
  for your problems?
• Do you feel a need to broadcast
  and share that you’ve been “helped” or “cured” as a result of reading your
  horoscope or listening to the stars?

The bottom line​

Astrology can be an enjoyable way to start your day and a source of inspiration and reflection.
However, it can’t take the role of therapy or replace healthy coping skills.

Source

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The wise men from the East used the stars to find the birth place of Christ.

Now there's a twisted concept! God sent a special star to guide the magi, it's not some excuse for you to promote astrology!

May the Lord rebuke you!

 

[St. SteVen]

Now there's a twisted concept! God sent a special star to guide the magi, it's not some excuse for you to promote astrology!

May the Lord rebuke you!

Don't be ridiculous. That's exactly what happened.
Anyway, I'm not promoting astrology.
I'm inviting discussion, which you are incapable of, evidently.

What Was the Star of Bethlehem?

Nearly all modern science-based solutions ignore how ancient people thought about and examined the sky. If modern astronomy cannot identify the Star of Bethlehem, can ancient astronomy?

www.biblicalarchaeology.org

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[St. SteVen]

Now there's a twisted concept! God sent a special star to guide the magi, it's not some excuse for you to promote astrology!

Obviously the Magi were astrologers. See the definitions below.

What is the difference between astronomy and astrology?​

Astronomy is the branch of science that studies everything outside of Earth’s atmosphere. This includes things in our solar system, such as the sun, the moon, and the other planets. It also includes things located very far away in outer space, such as other galaxies, distant stars, and black holes. Astronomers (people who study astronomy) may also research subatomic particles and theoretical things that may be out in space, such as dark matter. Astronomy often involves the use of scientific equipment, such as telescopes and satellites.

Astrology is a nonscientific practice in which a person uses the position of celestial objects (such as stars and planets) to make conclusions about people or future events. Astrologers (people who study astrology) believe that celestial objects are linked to human behavior. For example, it is a common belief in astrology that a person’s personality traits align with the zodiacal constellation that was in the sky when they were born. As well, astrologers believe that a horoscope (a map of the position of the stars and planets) can be used to predict a person’s future.

Source

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[St. SteVen]

Obviously the Magi were astrologers. See the definitions below.

Lexicon
magos: Magi, wise men
Original Word: μάγος
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: magos
Pronunciation: MAH-gos
Phonetic Spelling: (mag'-os)
KJV: sorcerer, wise man
NASB: magi, magician

Word Origin: [of foreign origin (H7248 (רַב ־ מָג - Rab-mag))]
1. a Magian, i.e. Oriental scientist
2. (by implication) a magician

Strong's Exhaustive Concordance
sorcerer, magician
Of foreign origin (Rab-Mag); a Magian, i.e. Oriental scientist; by implication, a magician -- sorcerer, wise man.
see HEBREW Rab-Mag
HELPS Word-studies
3097 mágos (plural, magi) – properly, belonging to "the Magoi, a Median tribe (so Herodotus); a Magian, one of a sacred caste, originally Median, who seem to have conformed to the Persian religion, while retaining some of their old beliefs (v. DB, I vol., 565 f.; DB, iii, 203 ff.): Mt 2:1,7,16; a wizard, sorcerer: Ac 13:6,8" (Abbott-Smith).

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[Angelina]

Recently I had a conversation with someone that guessed my astrological sign.
I thought that was curious.

Growing up in the evangelical church, astrology had always been frowned upon.
But I wondered about the signs referred in Genesis chapter one.

And God said, “Let there be lights in the vault of the sky to separate the day from the night,
and let them serve as signs to mark sacred times, and days and years,
15 and let them be lights in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth.”
And it was so. - Genesis 1:14-15 NIV

The wise men from the East used the stars to find the birth place of Christ.

Today I went online to see what was said about my sign.
A surprisingly accurate description based on my birth sign.
Some of the negative aspects didn't fit.
I wondered if my relationship with God negated them.

Let's discuss.

Previous forum topics on the subject:

Astrology​

​

Astronomy or Astrology? Which did God give to us in the stars when He created them for signs?​

Is Astrology Evil?​

​

The Sin Of Astrology​

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The use of astrology or horoscopes are not from the Lord. They are an abomination in his sight.

 

[marks]

Don't be ridiculous. That's exactly what happened.

Who is being ridiculous? They did not use astrology to locate Jesus. God sent a special star to lead them to the house where He lay.

Much love!

 

[marks]

I'm inviting discussion, which you are incapable of, evidently.

Incapable? Sure, tell yourself that. Or you can avoid pejoratives, since you claim to be inviting discussion.

Much love!

 

[marks]

Anyway, I'm not promoting astrology.

The bottom line​

Astrology can be an enjoyable way to start your day and a source of inspiration and reflection.
However, it can’t take the role of therapy or replace healthy coping skills.

I've learned to give more weight to what a person does over what they say about themself.

Much love!

 

[St. SteVen]

The use of astrology or horoscopes are not from the Lord. They are an abomination in his sight.

Respectfully, how did you arrive at that conclusion?

(not a rebuttal or an attack, I really want to know)

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[St. SteVen]

Anyway, I'm not promoting astrology.

The bottom line​

Astrology can be an enjoyable way to start your day and a source of inspiration and reflection.
However, it can’t take the role of therapy or replace healthy coping skills.

I've learned to give more weight to what a person does over what they say about themself.

I didn't write that article. You aren't quoting me. I cited my source.

I'm using this topic as an opportunity to learn more about the subject.
What's the alternative?

Life in the Tribal Bubble - The unReal world?

Religious institutions, particularly the churches of Christianity, provide a sanitized sterile environment. A bit like a petri dish in a lab, in which church culture can safely grow. But, tribe members don't live in the bubble. So they have to travel outside eventually. They may surround...

www.christianityboard.com

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[St. SteVen]

Respectfully, how did you arrive at that conclusion?

(not a rebuttal or an attack, I really want to know)

I used to be afraid of fortune cookies.
One day I realized how silly that was.
Why would a grow man be afraid of a cookie?



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[marks]

I'm using this topic as an opportunity to learn more about the subject.
What's the alternative?

Stick to the facts, like, the magi followed a certain star that they recognized would lead them to the King that was born, which it did. The followed the star until it stood over the house Jesus was in.

This was not using astrology to find His address.

You've used this phony tidbit to justify astrology, and that's wrong.

Life in the Tribal Bubble - The unReal world?

Religious institutions, particularly the churches of Christianity, provide a sanitized sterile environment. A bit like a petri dish in a lab, in which church culture can safely grow. But, tribe members don't live in the bubble. So they have to travel outside eventually. They may surround...

www.christianityboard.com

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Tribal bubbles? Cloister with your Bible, let that be your bubble. You seem to have a low view of church fellowship, do you attend a church fellowship?

Much love!

 

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Respectfully, how did you arrive at that conclusion?

(not a rebuttal or an attack, I really want to know)

Isaiah 47:10-14 KJV
10) For thou hast trusted in thy wickedness: thou hast said, None seeth me. Thy wisdom and thy knowledge, it hath perverted thee; and thou hast said in thine heart, I am, and none else beside me.
11) Therefore shall evil come upon thee; thou shalt not know from whence it riseth: and mischief shall fall upon thee; thou shalt not be able to put it off: and desolation shall come upon thee suddenly, which thou shalt not know.
12) Stand now with thine enchantments, and with the multitude of thy sorceries, wherein thou hast laboured from thy youth; if so be thou shalt be able to profit, if so be thou mayest prevail.
13) Thou art wearied in the multitude of thy counsels. Let now the astrologers, the stargazers, the monthly prognosticators, stand up, and save thee from these things that shall come upon thee.
14) Behold, they shall be as stubble; the fire shall burn them; they shall not deliver themselves from the power of the flame: there shall not be a coal to warm at, nor fire to sit before it.


Practice astrology at your own peril.

"Astrology and the Christian - What's Your Sign?"​

Much love!

 

[St. SteVen]

Practice astrology at your own peril.

I'm not practicing astrology. I just want to talk about it.

This is why people hate Christians.

--- PARODY ---

Christian: "You're going to hell!"
Atheist: "I don't believe in hell."
Christian: "That's why you are going there."
Atheist: "Say what?"
Christian: "You and your loved ones!"
Atheist: "If there is a hell, this is it. Goodbye."

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[St. SteVen]

Stick to the facts, like, the magi followed a certain star that they recognized would lead them to the King that was born, which it did. The followed the star until it stood over the house Jesus was in.

This was not using astrology to find His address.

You've used this phony tidbit to justify astrology, and that's wrong.

The word Magi is short for Magician/Sorcerer/Wizard.

Lexicon
magos: Magi, wise men
Original Word: μάγος
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: magos
Pronunciation: MAH-gos
Phonetic Spelling: (mag'-os)
KJV: sorcerer, wise man
NASB: magi, magician

Word Origin: [of foreign origin (H7248 (רַב ־ מָג - Rab-mag))]
1. a Magian, i.e. Oriental scientist
2. (by implication) a magician

Strong's Exhaustive Concordance
sorcerer, magician
Of foreign origin (Rab-Mag); a Magian, i.e. Oriental scientist; by implication, a magician -- sorcerer, wise man.
see HEBREW Rab-Mag
HELPS Word-studies
3097 mágos (plural, magi) – properly, belonging to "the Magoi, a Median tribe (so Herodotus); a Magian, one of a sacred caste, originally Median, who seem to have conformed to the Persian religion, while retaining some of their old beliefs (v. DB, I vol., 565 f.; DB, iii, 203 ff.): Mt 2:1,7,16; a wizard, sorcerer: Ac 13:6,8" (Abbott-Smith).

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