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This is a touchy subject for most Christian Boards and the church. Mainly due to a person being controlled by what is a neurological disease and which they can do nothing about.

Just to clarify, there are two types of Autism. A high autism and a low autism. The high autistic person who is very brainy (I have an I.Q. of 140) and a low autism which causes physically aggressive outbreaks.

The high autistic person which I come under is a person who delves deeply into things and attempts to be thoroughly versed in the subject matter so that they can speak about it with confidence. They may study a subject for years before saying anything about it. One thing is for sure. They will study book after book after book until they are confident they have covered every possibility.

They are not interested in opinion. Their own or anyone else.

Socially they are not very forward, but if the conversation is on a topic they have studied they will become very talkative and regale you with their knowledge.

How does the high autistic person's brain work?

There are three parts to seeing the world. The left side, the right side, and the center. A person who is not autistic sees the left, right, and center. A person who is autistic sees only the center. This means that which is on the left or right is not available to them so their understanding of things is from the center.

This means they do not see the nuances in a comment and they cannot read between the lines. Putting it simply, they call a spade a spade.

An autistic brain is divided into the left and right like everyone else. Except for only one side works. The side that contains the emotions has gone to sleep. it is no use telling an autistic person they should love people because they can't.

It is no use telling them to be like so and so, because they can't.

The person with a high autistic brain does not exhibit feelings and does not express feelings. Primarily they deal with facts. For example, if they say something negative about someone that is a statement of fact for them. They are not expressing a feeling and it does not translate as negativity to that person.

In the reverse, if someone says they are stupid they deal with it as a comment. They don't take it personally and don't have a need to retaliate in kind. (nearly always).

Unlike a physical disability where a person can sometimes improve and get better autism is a neurological disease that they have no control over and which they cannot change.

The experts in the field of autism say that when it comes to change, it is the other person who has to change because the autistic person can't. The other person has to adapt to the autistic person ways. not the other way around. if they are waiting for that to happen they will wait until kingdom comes.
 

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I think that Hitler was Autistic.

I know a few Autistic people as you pointed out, now one lefty dude has a son who is such as well and he claims that such people are a more advanced, more evolved ? why he claims such is maybe due to lefty's he is involved with making all such claims that such do.

One example was that I seen years ago and came to the house with a brat kid, who said to me. Go away ! as I walked in the door.
But no, Oh we have a gifted son ?
He is retarded in my view, not my idea of what gifted was at all in my younger days, but that's the term that the Socialist misfits use nowadays.
But no all I see is a brat that needs a clip under the ear. I do not care what he is, people have to learn respect regardless.
So I have seen this pandering parent nonsense and the kid is a disgrace.

If a child was truly gifted, one would not have to point such out, now would one ? as one would figure that out for yourself and say, oh boy what an intelligent kid ! not to mention such a kid would not be rude or out of control at all or have temper tantrums. such shows one to be an idiot that's out of control.

Then with others I know you can not truly have a one on one real conversation with them because they are to stupid to understand anything much and get what one says mistakenly wrong, because they can not follow logically because the depth of such is mute and sterile too narrow minded, lack of filling the gaps, lack of maturity and real understanding. it's like they have no Soul. as a part of the brain does not function, it's dead.
Now they may come across as very bright on some points. but it's just more like regurgitating.

Australia's smartest man is an idiot to talk to, as he has no brain capacity to relate to others much at all, but he can recall a lot of stuff and just bring it up regurgitating such. fantastic ! but not to mention he is a lefty clown and as we know all lefty's are bound by a soulless delusional self obsessed pitch that dominates over them. for they can not see the trees for the forest !

Like Hitler ! as you explained that's how he was and totally devoid of humanity. but obsessed ! people like so are very dangerous.
 

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I seen a Jewish bloke in Australia a very bright man talented, but his dad was one of the Jews who experimented on people in the camps and I am sure that he tamped with his son with an experiment on the brain to make him the way he is. or injected something into him at a young age.
This Jew is such a complete simple minded idiot but is so bright in another way, most peoples mind does not work that way at all. Hitler's Mob were working on all sorts of such experiments and it was the Jews who held the positions in such fields, the Germans were to dumb in such fields. The Germans could not of made the V1 V2 etc without the help of the Jews.
Launching people into space etc is all due to such Jews in fact.
 

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thank you for shareing this
I think it's just a start to the topic, not very well put but only a starting point.

Maybe went a bit to far in a way but such was not intent on upsetting anyone. but an issue just the same.

I am sure that many are fine people.

But I can not rule out an intent from Government circles to do such harm to Children, it's a big issue I believe in the Vaccine debate. and I say it should be examined thoroughly as I am sick of all the cover ups.

One of my brothers wife's daughter that he brought up, she has two children with Autism. but both different types of such, nice kids. but one has to take care in regards to such. but she teaches such people, so she is on the ball.
At least we are making progress nowadays, but boy some people were put through hell with all such dealings.
 

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Once upon a time I worked in a shop that hired people with special needs (including autism) to perform menial tasks. We hired a really nice "kid" (he was probably forty years old at the time but felt more like twelve) to dust the shelves. I gave him the duster and told him, "dust the shelves." I thought my instructions were complete but the guy started to look really stressed. I didn't understand what was happening but fortunately my coworker was nearby and able to clarify. He wrote down a list that said, "Dust shelf #1. Dust shelf #2. Dust shelf #3" etc. He listed every shelf in the store, by number, and gave it to the man who read it and happily began working.

This was a real eye opening experience. In the end the store was well dusted. He did good work and we were glad to have him, but it did take understanding on my part.
 

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I worked as a job coach for an agency who helped young people with autism, settle into the workforce. Firstly, I was trained in the specific Job and then I would teach the new employee, how to do it.

One particular young man was a superstar. I would give him some possible situations that could happen ie: a fire, a customer needs his help or there's been an accident, which required him to drop his daily routines, tasks, lists in his head and address a situation at hand. He is still working in that employment position today and he is still a superstar. He greets all the customers in a friendly manner and talks with them about their favorite subject [which he knows off by heart] and at the same time, he is doing and ticking off those tasks in his head. :)
 
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Its hard for those unacquainted with the autistic mind to comprehend that autistic children have no control over their emotions, and will have melt-downs when sensory overload becomes too much to handle. It could be a noise, or the inability to engage in something that they were looking forward to...there is no way for them to deal with not doing it. It might look like just a brat misbehaving, but I have several friends with autistic kids and thankfully as they get older, many of them learn to gain control of their outbursts.

Its a parent's nightmare being judged by ignorant people. They need a hug, not judgment.
 
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Funny thing is, we'd never heard of the word "autism" until relatively recent times, so is it a new thing or has it always existed?
PS- A woman in a discussion forum once said "My autistic toddler son is driving me round the bend, he's going through a 'Bob the Builder' phase and keeps asking me to buy him Bob the Builder books and Bob the Builder toys, what shall I do?"
So I said- "Just stop nagging and buy him the stuff".
She never replied..;)
 

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Funny thing is, we'd never heard of the word "autism" until relatively recent times, so is it a new thing or has it always existed?
It probably always existed, just not so common......and in times past, often these children were shut away so people never knew of their affliction.....chemical pollution in the world around us (especially in more modern times) invades our bodies by various means ....food, air, water, medications and vaccinations....best to avoid unnecessary chemicals......things that the body finds hard to deal with.

PS- A woman in a discussion forum once said "My autistic toddler son is driving me round the bend, he's going through a 'Bob the Builder' phase and keeps asking me to buy him Bob the Builder books and Bob the Builder toys, what shall I do?"
So I said- "Just stop nagging and buy him the stuff".
She never replied..
Not buying the stuff would have caused her more stress because of the melt downs.....maybe that wasn't what a stressed out mother needed to hear......
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There is no point nagging at an autistic child.....they do not respond to nagging.
 
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I once briefly dated an autistic lady and we got on alright but she seemed to prefer being in a world of her own.
She always turned up for dates wearing the same dowdy oldfashioned clothes and hideous flat shapeless shoes, so i bought her a pair of stylish ones with a bit of a heel but she wouldn't wear them, so i decided there was no future for us.
I saw her off on the bus home and we never contacted each other again.
 

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I once briefly dated an autistic lady and we got on alright but she seemed to prefer being in a world of her own.
She always turned up for dates wearing the same dowdy oldfashioned clothes and hideous flat shapeless shoes, so i bought her a pair of stylish ones with a bit of a heel but she wouldn't wear them, so i decided there was no future for us.
I saw her off on the bus home and we never contacted each other again.

Lol sounds like me

@SERVANTedu ...

Lol:rolleyes::rolleyes::p:p:D
 

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Funny thing is, we'd never heard of the word "autism" until relatively recent times, so is it a new thing or has it always existed?
PS- A woman in a discussion forum once said "My autistic toddler son is driving me round the bend, he's going through a 'Bob the Builder' phase and keeps asking me to buy him Bob the Builder books and Bob the Builder toys, what shall I do?"
So I said- "Just stop nagging and buy him the stuff".
She never replied..;)
Look into the past in regards to mental hospitals just in the USA say, what was done to such people, on par to Nazi Germany it looks like, boy ! I could go on about all that history but I am sure that Autism was around, it was just not identified and given a name. Like the Trinity became a word to describe something better, so is many things nowadays has a word for such but once never was. so one may say it never existed before the word developed.
But Autism is on the rise in a huge way nowadays and sadly the powers that be look to be turning a blind eye to issues put forward that are just dismissed ! because Company's etc have an agenda.

If I had a cure for most cancer, such would be canned directly and never see the light of day, because such would destroy a billion dollar industry, not to mention that's why they let AIDS spread ! they had a chance to wipe it out but their was to much money to be made out of such and that's a fact !
 

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Once upon a time I worked in a shop that hired people with special needs (including autism) to perform menial tasks. We hired a really nice "kid" (he was probably forty years old at the time but felt more like twelve) to dust the shelves. I gave him the duster and told him, "dust the shelves." I thought my instructions were complete but the guy started to look really stressed. I didn't understand what was happening but fortunately my coworker was nearby and able to clarify. He wrote down a list that said, "Dust shelf #1. Dust shelf #2. Dust shelf #3" etc. He listed every shelf in the store, by number, and gave it to the man who read it and happily began working.

This was a real eye opening experience. In the end the store was well dusted. He did good work and we were glad to have him, but it did take understanding on my part.
Thank you for a real-life example
 

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I did not know I was autistic until later on in life. When someone suggested that I was I started looking back and could see a pattern right back to my teens. Even then I was very focused on what I was doing.

This has been said more than once that a job was given to me because they knew it would be done properly. This is a trait of the autistic person. Whatever they do they will do it very thoroughly. They are not necessarily the fastest worker but they are thorough. Sometimes they will be reticent to do something because they do not have a sufficient grasp of the job so rather than do it poorly they would rather not do it at all.

Words often have a different meaning to autistic people because they do not experience the feeling associated with them. Most of the time their conversation is nothing more than facts. If the words they use mean more than that they are not aware of it. They might say something that people get offended by and they will not understand why because to them all they are doing is stating a fact. There is nothing judgmental about what they said.

That is one of the reasons why the other person has to change not the autistic person. Their world of understanding is limited in comparison to the person who is not autistic and they can not change that fact.
 

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..If I had a cure for most cancer, such would be canned directly and never see the light of day, because such would destroy a billion dollar industry, not to mention that's why they let AIDS spread ! they had a chance to wipe it out but their was to much money to be made out of such and that's a fact !

Same with aluminium which has a proven link to Alzheimer's, governments know it but are hushing it up in case it harms the aluminium industry.
Personally I stopped using aluminium pots and pans years ago after the link first came to light, and switched to coated ones.

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I did not know I was autistic until later on in life. When someone suggested that I was I started looking back and could see a pattern right back to my teens. Even then I was very focused on what I was doing.

This has been said more than once that a job was given to me because they knew it would be done properly. This is a trait of the autistic person. Whatever they do they will do it very thoroughly. They are not necessarily the fastest worker but they are thorough. Sometimes they will be reticent to do something because they do not have a sufficient grasp of the job so rather than do it poorly they would rather not do it at all.

Words often have a different meaning to autistic people because they do not experience the feeling associated with them. Most of the time their conversation is nothing more than facts. If the words they use mean more than that they are not aware of it. They might say something that people get offended by and they will not understand why because to them all they are doing is stating a fact. There is nothing judgmental about what they said.

That is one of the reasons why the other person has to change not the autistic person. Their world of understanding is limited in comparison to the person who is not autistic and they can not change that fact.
I think that the dad of two mates was Autistic he has been dead for 20 years now or so, but he worked on a F111 engines and such back in the days and everyone thought that he was a nut because he was so radical perfectionist, that most people hated that he was like that working with him. he was over the top with it ? they all said such shaking their head about him. not to mention both of his boys maybe Autistic as well, one could never hold down a Job because he is so obsessive and starts murmering to himself ranting and raving about things that are seen not in line with what he claims, he says this is the way, only because he has been told so ? regarding Religion. and as for working on something he will get real obsessed and destroy such things, like working on a car ? I would say settle down and think things over, but no ! they both will be in such a rush ? I do not know if it's to prove to me or others ? because of an inferiority complex ? or what.
I have to try and keep them away from some things I am doing.
I have a step outside that has a bit of wood rot and it's like, full on it's got to be replaced today ! lets get it done now, Joe knows where to get them from ! No ! it's hardwood it will be fine I will bog it up and it will be fine for more years. same thing with my deck out back, it's like, lets pull it all down and build a deck 2x as big and I say No ! I like it this way, that's why I bought the house, I like this era house and I will just replace some timbers and all is fine.
I have worked in new hoses my whole working life and I hate them. I have something different to come home to that I like.
 

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..both of his boys maybe Autistic as well, one could never hold down a Job because he is so obsessive and starts murmering to himself ranting and raving about things that are seen not in line with what he claims, he says this is the way, only because he has been told so ? regarding Religion. and as for working on something he will get real obsessed and destroy such things, like working on a car ? I would say settle down and think things over, but no ! they both will be in such a rush ? I do not know if it's to prove to me or others ? because of an inferiority complex ? or what...

If their work is no good, they deserve to be told off or fired like anybody else..:)
But if their work is okay, perhaps they just want to be left alone to get on with it and don't like having people looking over their shoulder nitpicking all the time.
I don't think I'm autistic, but I'm a lot like them, I'm a lousy team player because I can't stand people trying to tell me what to do..:)
 
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One of the traits of Autistic people is that they are some of the nicest people on earth. They always have time to listen. Nothing is too much in that area of life. Although they are not into feelings, they can pick up things in the Holy Spirit and diagnose a problem. I don't know if that is just me but I don't have much faith in my own ability so I am always in tune with what the Spirit is saying and I have noticed that I tend not to come out with some flowery answer. I usually tell it like it is and leave it up to the person how they are going to deal with it.

Having said that I am aware that on numerous occasions I have hit the nail on the head. To give you an example I was speaking at a FGBI meeting and it is normal to ask people if they wanted prayer. We all sat at tables for breakfast and as I approached the first couple for prayer the Spirit said to me "Do not ask people what they want prayer for. I will tell you."

I knelt down beside them and the Spirit said to me "Incest." I had to think about how to pray as I did not want to broadcast the fact so I prayed that this marriage began in sorrow. immediately the wife burst into tears as she picked up I knew what it was all about. Afterward, she confided in me she had been raped by her grandfather.

I believe that the fact my feeling ability is curtailed has been replaced by the ability to feel from God.
 
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