All saved persons have been made members of the Body of Christ by One divine baptism (this is baptism into the Body of Christ by the Holy Spirit). By that ONE BAPTISM, every member of the Body of Christ is identified with Christ in His death, burial and resurrection. In light of the statement concerning the "ONE BAPTISM" in Ephesians 4:5 and the statement in I Corinthians 1:17 that "Christ sent me not to baptize but to preach the gospel", we affirm that water baptism has no place in God's spiritual program for the Body of Christ in this day of grace.
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Bible_Gazer
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What did Jesus say about it in John 3 that you need both to be born again ?
Did Jesus say the kingdom of God is at hand, was he not telling how to get in?
Peter commanded it to be done after the household received the holy spirit. Acts10
Don't leave out all of the ingredients to be saved completely or try some short cut.
Did Jesus say the kingdom of God is at hand, was he not telling how to get in?
Peter commanded it to be done after the household received the holy spirit. Acts10
Don't leave out all of the ingredients to be saved completely or try some short cut.
JESUS went to the Cross for our sins......... that changed a lot ........!
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Baptism is a symbol for those who are saved by God's grace.
Getting Baptized does not save you......
JESUS going to the cross for our sins .......... Saves US.........
Things changed for us after the Cross.......
JESUS paid the price for us.......... Upon understanding and belief.
We are now who believe,,,,,, Gentiles........ 1Cor. 12:13&27
JESUS going to the cross for our sins .......... Saves US.........
Things changed for us after the Cross.......
JESUS paid the price for us.......... Upon understanding and belief.
We are now who believe,,,,,, Gentiles........ 1Cor. 12:13&27
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101G
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Addressing the OP only.
1 Peter 3:19 "By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
1 Peter 3:20 "Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
1 Peter 3:21 "The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ"
Mark 16:16 "He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
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1 Peter 3:19 "By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
1 Peter 3:20 "Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
1 Peter 3:21 "The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ"
Mark 16:16 "He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
PICJAG
This is simply Hyper-Dispensational NONSENSE.
Actually it is more than nonsense. It is heresy.
What is in the Bible is THE EXACT OPPOSITE of what you are promoting.
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost (Mt 28:19)
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. (Mk 16:16)
Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection: (Rom 6:3-5)
http://www.rightlydividing.org/seco...ombined email index and document 170918.htm
May be you want to take a look at this....... all sorts of answers for you ! Really !
May be you want to take a look at this....... all sorts of answers for you ! Really !
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I think it’s a real tragedy that your children led you so far away from the truth of the Gospel.
NOWHERE in the New Testament doe is the need for Baptism ever “repealed”.
In the Great Commission, Jesus COMMANDED His disciples to teach ALL nations, BAPTIZING them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit (Matt. 28:19).
So, instead of listening to the words of Christ, who is GOD (Mark 16:16, John 3:5) – you go instead to some internet site who tells you that Baptism is unnecessary??
What led you to this point in your life – where you would shun the words of Almighty GOD in favor of some guy on the internet??
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If that is what you want to believe go ahead but I will stick with what the scriptures teach......
Men and brethren what shall we do...repent and be baptised for the forgiveness of sin and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
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101G
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obedience, by water yes, that leads to, or accepts Spiritual regeneration.
that's why 1 Peter 3:20 is written either before or after.
the water don't save you itself, but your obedience to his comman to do it dose.
PICJAG.
I understand from scripture that regeneration precedes faith. And repentance and baptism follow.
101G
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Romans 10:13 "For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Romans 10:14 "How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
Romans 10:15 "And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
Romans 10:16 "But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?
Romans 10:17 "So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
Now in Captian Cornelius case baptism came after, but completed his regeneration, just as our Lord's baptism was a completion of all righteousness.
so Captian Cornelius was baptized into christ the completion of his baptism. scripture,
Acts 10:1 "There was a certain man in Caesarea called Cornelius, a centurion of the band called the Italian band,
Acts 10:2 "A devout man, and one that feared God with all his house, which gave much alms to the people, and prayed to God alway.
Acts 10:3 "He saw in a vision evidently about the ninth hour of the day an angel of God coming in to him, and saying unto him, Cornelius.
Acts 10:4 "And when he looked on him, he was afraid, and said, What is it, Lord? And he said unto him, Thy prayers and thine alms are come up for a memorial before God".
this word "memorial" is key in this verse, why? because this is in reference to the book of LIFE. scripture, Malachi 3:16 "Then they that feared the LORD spake often one to another: and the LORD hearkened, and heard it, and a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared the LORD, and that thought upon his name.
Malachi 3:17 "And they shall be mine, saith the LORD of hosts, in that day when I make up my jewels; and I will spare them, as a man spareth his own son that serveth him.
Malachi 3:18 "Then shall ye return, and discern between the righteous and the wicked, between him that serveth God and him that serveth him not".
that book of "REMEBRANCE", it is the Hebrew word,
H2146 זִכרוֹן zikrown (zik-rone') n-m.
a memento (or memorable thing, day or writing).
[from H2142]
KJV: memorial, record.
"memorial?", what did the angel tell captian Cornelius? "Acts 10:4 "And when he looked on him, he was afraid, and said, What is it, Lord? And he said unto him, Thy prayers and thine alms are come up for a memorial before God".
well, well, what was done in Malachi 3:16? "and a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared the LORD, and that thought upon his name".
"WAS" is a past tense desigination, meaning it has been written, and the angel told captian Cornelius that "Thy prayers and thine alms are come up for a memorial before God".
but captian Cornelius needed to do something,,, listen, Acts 10:5 "And now send men to Joppa, and call for one Simon, whose surname is Peter", WHY, or what for? Acts 10:6 "He lodgeth with one Simon a tanner, whose house is by the sea side: he shall tell thee what thou oughtest to do". BINGO. and what did Peter do when he came into captian Cornelius house? read Acts 10:34 - 48. Peter "PREACHED", FIRST and then "BAPTIZED".
so captian Cornelius name, and his household was written in the "BOOK of remembrance", but they need something to close the DEAL, or as our Lord Jesus said, "To fulfil all righteousness".
he was preached to and Baptized.
No, Donald Trump is not the one who is the art of the DEAL. it's GOD, the Lord Jesus who is the ART of the Genuine and everlasting DEAL. THERE IS NOTHING NEW UNDERS THE SUN....
PICJAG.
“And when he was disposed to pass into Achaia, the brethren wrote, exhorting the disciples to receive him: who, when he was come, helped them much which had believed through grace:” (Acts 18:27) (KJV 1900)Romans 10:13 "For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Romans 10:14 "How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
Romans 10:15 "And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
Romans 10:16 "But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?
Romans 10:17 "So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
Now in Captian Cornelius case baptism came after, but completed his regeneration, just as our Lord's baptism was a completion of all righteousness.
so Captian Cornelius was baptized into christ the completion of his baptism. scripture,
Acts 10:1 "There was a certain man in Caesarea called Cornelius, a centurion of the band called the Italian band,
Acts 10:2 "A devout man, and one that feared God with all his house, which gave much alms to the people, and prayed to God alway.
Acts 10:3 "He saw in a vision evidently about the ninth hour of the day an angel of God coming in to him, and saying unto him, Cornelius.
Acts 10:4 "And when he looked on him, he was afraid, and said, What is it, Lord? And he said unto him, Thy prayers and thine alms are come up for a memorial before God".
this word "memorial" is key in this verse, why? because this is in reference to the book of LIFE. scripture, Malachi 3:16 "Then they that feared the LORD spake often one to another: and the LORD hearkened, and heard it, and a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared the LORD, and that thought upon his name.
Malachi 3:17 "And they shall be mine, saith the LORD of hosts, in that day when I make up my jewels; and I will spare them, as a man spareth his own son that serveth him.
Malachi 3:18 "Then shall ye return, and discern between the righteous and the wicked, between him that serveth God and him that serveth him not".
that book of "REMEBRANCE", it is the Hebrew word,
H2146 זִכרוֹן zikrown (zik-rone') n-m.
a memento (or memorable thing, day or writing).
[from H2142]
KJV: memorial, record.
"memorial?", what did the angel tell captian Cornelius? "Acts 10:4 "And when he looked on him, he was afraid, and said, What is it, Lord? And he said unto him, Thy prayers and thine alms are come up for a memorial before God".
well, well, what was done in Malachi 3:16? "and a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared the LORD, and that thought upon his name".
"WAS" is a past tense desigination, meaning it has been written, and the angel told captian Cornelius that "Thy prayers and thine alms are come up for a memorial before God".
but captian Cornelius needed to do something,,, listen, Acts 10:5 "And now send men to Joppa, and call for one Simon, whose surname is Peter", WHY, or what for? Acts 10:6 "He lodgeth with one Simon a tanner, whose house is by the sea side: he shall tell thee what thou oughtest to do". BINGO. and what did Peter do when he came into captian Cornelius house? read Acts 10:34 - 48. Peter "PREACHED", FIRST and then "BAPTIZED".
so captian Cornelius name, and his household was written in the "BOOK of remembrance", but they need something to close the DEAL, or as our Lord Jesus said, "To fulfil all righteousness".
he was preached to and Baptized.
No, Donald Trump is not the one who is the art of the DEAL. it's GOD, the Lord Jesus who is the ART of the Genuine and everlasting DEAL. THERE IS NOTHING NEW UNDERS THE SUN....
PICJAG.
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