Shy said:
Speaking in tongues is really controversial. In these modern times, it is not paid attention to it this much as it was before; one can always fake it and you won't know.
Then again, what are those "tongues"?
I believe and desire to be baptized in Holy Spirit, yet nothing has happened. I saw a topic on another forum listing some of the gifts of Holy Spirit, is it not necessarily tongues.
I don't know why tongues are so controversial tpday, But you are right, a lot of people don't know much about tongues.
A person who is filled with the Holy Ghost knows it, They will also know if anyone is faking tongues, That is one of the reasons for the revelation gifts, [To reveal who is truely speaking in a God given tongue, And who isn't].
One of the gifts of the Spirit is tongues, 1 Cor 12: 10., These are divers kinds of tongues, [In other words they are different to the other tongues we receive]. The tongues i 1 Cor 12: 10 are for interpretation., They are not the tongues one receives at their baptism in the Holy Ghost.
You receive the baptism in the Holy Ghost By Faith, The moment you receive the Holy Ghost by faith,He will give you the words, to speak, Acts 2: 4. It might be just one ot two sylables, But you have to speak them out IN FAITH, Acts 2: 4 says, "They spoke".
as the Spirit gave them the utterance, The moment God know you have the faith to receive, The Holy Ghost will give you the utterance..Then speak out..IN FAITH.
Here are some manifestations of tongues.
[1]Tongues that are a foreign language...Act 2: 4--11.
God can and will use these tongues through any of His people whenever there is a need.
[2]Tongues that are for interpretation, 1 Cor 12: 10.
These are the tongues that Paul said not every of will have, 1 Cor 12: 30.
[3]Tongues that only God can understand, 1 Cor 14: 2..
These are mysteries, A mystery is a hidden secret, Hidden for us NOT FROM US.
[4]Tongues that edify us [build us up]. 1 Cor 14: 4. Jude 20.
[5]Tongues that are our Spirit praying, 1 Cor 14: 14--15.
[6]Tongues that are for praise and worshiping God in songs, 1 Cor 14: 15--17.
[7] Tongues of Angels, 1 Cor 13: 1.
We can speak to God in the Angelic language.
[8]Tongues that the Spirit used to interceed for us, Rom 8: 26--28.
As the Spirit interceeds for us,Or throug us for others, Then all things work together for our good..V28.
The meaning of, "Cannot be uttered" V26, Means cannot be spoken in our native language, But the Spirit needs our voice to interceed through us and for us.
Those of us who have experienced the Holy Spirit interceeding for us, Know when He takes over our tongues.
Jesus said the believer shall speak in tongues, Mk 16: 17,..So every believer can and should speak in tongues once they have been baptised in the Holy Ghost.
Rex said:
Jesus said the believer SHALL speak in tongues,
It's an assumption all right, find some verses that say this is evidence of the HS. That we should all expect to all be gifted with tongues.
I might add that I have never seen nor heard testimony of tongues in my life as described in Acts 2.
Do you have some verses that we can look at that support your "bolded statement above"
As well as 8 operations of tongues to the church?
This presumption of tongues is already well outside the teachings of the Apostles
Jesus said the believer SHALL speak in tongues,, Mk 16: 17.
And that's good enough for me..
You can make your wrong assumptions if you want to, But I will believe what the Bible says.
Rex said:
Shy, I would recommend you ask others for scriptural evidence, and prayerfully study the word to find out what is being taught is supported by scripture.
Many are going to tell you things the Apostles never said or implied. It up to you to discover the truth.
Really and where is this mentioned that everyone speaks in tongues?
If you read my earlier post, You would know where the Bible says those who were baptised in the Holy Ghost spoke in tongues.
Here are the scriptures.
The Biblical evidence of the baptism in the Holy Ghost is speaking in tongues..Every recording of people being baptised in the Holy Ghost in the Bible, They spoke in tongues.
Acts 2: 4..
Acts 8: 17--21.The Greek meaning for, "Matter", In v21. Is "Tongue, Language, dialect", They had the same experience
as those in
Acts 2: 4..
Acts 9: 17. We know Paul spoke in tongues,
1 Cor 14: 18.
Acts 10: 44--46.
Acts 19: 6.
These are the onle Biblical accounts of people being baptised in the Holy Ghost, And they all spoke in tongues.