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Discussion in 'Christian Apologetics Forum' started by theefaith, Aug 22, 2021.

  1. theefaith

    theefaith Well-Known Member

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    A city on a hill and the body are physical and visible
     
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    must be successors to the apostles to have any authority from Christ
    They must be sent that’s what apostle means

    Rom 10:15

    sent by the apostles
     
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    theefaith Well-Known Member

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    Christ commanded peter to feed his sheep
     
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    Which apostles taught the United States?
    It was not a nation until 1776?
     
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    Rejection of scripture is rejection of Christ
     
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    where?

    you can only be baptized once! Eph 4:5
    A man is sealed with the HS in baptism
     
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    David H. Well-Known Member

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    All believers have the unction of the Holy Ghost.
     
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    theefaith Well-Known Member

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    no they don’t

    only Christians do!

    believers are not Christians but catechumens

    baptism is necessary to be a Christian
     
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    You and your word of the day. Still, you fail to grasp the definition of your own word.
     
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    theefaith Well-Known Member

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    Christians are in Christ and in his church
    They have washed awY their sins too

    Acts 22:16
    And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord

    1 Corinthians 12:13
    For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

    Galatians 3:27
    For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
     
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    David H. Well-Known Member

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    And that is the Nicolaitan doctrine you and your church espouses, which Jesus "Hates".

    There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. Gal. 3:28
     
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    theefaith Well-Known Member

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    “Baptismal regeneration” is the initiation into the new covenant!

    Christian baptism is an outward sign of the inward action of grace, or merits of Christ’s passion blood and death applied to our souls!

    Metaphorical or implied meaning of baptism!

    John 19:34
    But one of the soldiers with a spear pierced his side, and forthwith came there out blood and water.

    The blood signifies the infinite merits of Christ!
    The water signifies baptism!

    Old Testament pre-figures of baptism.

    Psalm 1:3 And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.

    Psalm 36:9
    For with thee is the fountain of life: in thy light shall we see light.

    Song of Solomon 4:15
    A fountain of gardens, a well of living waters, and streams from Lebanon.

    Isaiah 41:18
    I will open rivers in high places, and fountains in the midst of the valleys: I will make the wilderness a pool of water, and the dry land springs of water.

    Isaiah 52:15 So shall he sprinkle many nations;

    Heb 9:19 For when Moses had spoken every precept to all the people according to the law, he took the blood of calves and of goats, with water, and scarlet wool, and hyssop, and sprinkled both the book, and all the people,

    1 pet 3:20-21

    Ez 36:25 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.
    26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
    27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

    New Testament

    Matt 28:19
    Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

    ( Disciples by baptism not faith alone)

    Mk 1:4
    John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins.

    Mark 16:16
    he who believes and is baptized shall be saved!

    Jn 1: 11
    He came unto his own, and his own received him not.

    12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

    13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. (Baptism)

    John 1:26
    John answered them, saying, I baptize with water: but there standeth one among you, whom ye know not; (John prepared the way by baptism)

    John 2:6
    And there were set there six waterpots of stone, after the manner of the purifying of the Jews, containing two or three firkins apiece. (Old covenant prefiguring of baptism, purification from sin)

    John3:5
    Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. (Baptism)

    John 3:22
    After these things came Jesus and his disciples into the land of Judaea; and there he tarried with them, and baptized. 23 And John also was baptizing in Aenon near to Salim, because there was much water there: and they came, and were baptized.(Baptism)

    John 4:4
    When therefore the Lord knew how the Pharisees had heard that Jesus made and baptized more disciples than John.

    John 14:17
    Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

    Act 2:38
    Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.(Baptism)

    40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.

    41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.
    (Saved by baptism)

    Acts 8:36
    And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?

    37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.

    Philip preached Jesus and the result is justification by baptism!

    Acts 22:16
    And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

    Rom 3:24
    Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

    Rom 6:3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?

    Romans 6:4
    Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

    Acts 2:47
    Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.

    1 Corinthians 1:2
    Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both their's and our's:

    Acts 2:47
    Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.

    1 Corinthians 12:13
    For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

    Galatians 3:27
    For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

    whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

Ephesians 4:5 
One Lord, one faith, one baptism,

Colossians 2:12
Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.

    Gal 4:19
    My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you,

    Titus 3:5
    Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost; (baptism)

    2 Corinthians 5:17
    Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

    Heb 10:22
    Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.

    1 Jn 2:20 But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.

    1 Jn 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

    (Born of God) faith and baptism

    Jn 1:12-13 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

    13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

    1 Jn 5:4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.

    5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?

    6 This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.

    7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

    8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.

    Born of God by baptism

    1 pet 1:2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.

    1 Peter 1:22
    Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently: see Ez 36

    Rev 1:5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood, (baptism rom 6:3-4)


    1 Pet 3:20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

    21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us!
    (Ark of Noah a type of the church, member of Christ and his church and salvation by baptism!)
    (Outside the ark of Noah none were saved, outside the church (the ark of salvation) none are saved!)
     
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    Only if you are in Christ and his church by the Christian sacrament of baptism ez 36:25-27
     
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    No, Only if you are in Christ Jesus. (Emphasis on Period). You are adding to the Word of God what is not there in order to foist a Nicolaitan hierarchy over the sheep.....

    The elders which are among you I exhort, who am also an elder, and a witness of the sufferings of Christ, and also a partaker of the glory that shall be revealed: Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind; Neither as being lords over God's heritage, but being ensamples to the flock. (1 Peter 5:1-3)
     
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    how do you put on Christ?
     
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    By Putting to death the Old man. Romans 13:14
     
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    Stick to the bible my friend . Stick to the bible . They can keep they extras . I read a lot of that stuff
    years back . Never had a taste for it . IT always appeared to have mens wisdom mixed into it .
    Some truths too, but often mens carnal things as well .
    I dont remember if i ever read That dan thirteen . UNLESS it had bel and the dragon in it . IF that was it
    DONT BOTHER .
     
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    But not as an organization as you claim, only in the lives of individual believers doing things that are visible and have effect.
     
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    You're not getting it through your head that most Protesters are not against ordained gifts of leadership and administration in the church. We are against the Catholic church's claim that they as an organization are the sole ordained leadership of the believers.
     
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    Yep, and his words feed the sheep to this day.
     
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