Birthed Son's

[soul man]

Have you ever given thought to; Creator God in all His omnipotence cannot bring forth one son in creation alone. The Only begotten Son of coarse is not a creation. But the son's of God are a real born again product of God the Father produced by a birthing. That is a real look at a real father - in this case for lack of a better word - extremes to get what the creator God with Fatherly attributes so desired before the foundation of the world to have sons like unto His only begotten Son.

The plan and purpose for all of creation is written overwhelmingly in scripture to give full direct to those son's and daughter's He would single handedly have to do with.

To get real son's of God He would birth them because you cannot create son's. That dear saints is God in His full Magnificence and Glory creating and making son's after Himself. I'm in total awe everytime I delve into His plan to birth His Own children and keep it a sacred secret until the time to reveal it - oh how His wonders to perform. Worship His Majesty!

Why sacred secret? So man has no influence whatsoever in this decision.

 

[Riverwalker]

Have you ever given thought to; Creator God in all His omnipotence cannot bring forth one son in creation alone.

Of course God could create his own son, by himself, using Human DNA (which He created) He chose not to, because the way He did it perfectly completed the connection between God and man

There are many things God CAN do that He will not do, including erasing all of this with a whisper. Everything God does is for a purpose

 

[Nancy]

Of course God could create his own son, by himself, using Human DNA (which He created) He chose not to, because the way He did it perfectly completed the connection between God and man

There are many things God CAN do that He will not do, including erasing all of this with a whisper. Everything God does is for a purpose

So true...ability wise God can do anything at all...but He chooses not to at times.
Welcome to the forums @Riverwalker

 

[soul man]

Of course God could create his own son, by himself, using Human DNA (which He created) He chose not to, because the way He did it perfectly completed the connection between God and man

There are many things God CAN do that He will not do, including erasing all of this with a whisper. Everything God does is for a purpose

The only way to have a son is to birth them. Follow the natural instinct of life, there is no creating son's only by a natural birth do you get children. Please give a thought on 'born again' if you have something?

 

[Riverwalker]

The only way to have a son is to birth them. Follow the natural instinct of life, there is no creating son's only by a natural birth do you get children. Please give a thought on 'born again' if you have something?

The only way for YOU and I to have a son is to birth them. But this is God we are talking about. He is limitless. He speaks and things come into being. The Only way for you or I to make wine is to grow grapes, harvest them. crush them, ferment them and then age them. Unless you are God, then you just pour water into clay vessels and BOOM. God is not limited by natural law, He breaks it all the time, we call these breaks "Miracles"

As to being born again, obviously Jesus is referring to SPIRITUAL rebirth. We died in sin and we are made new

 

[April_Rose]

God isn't limited to anything. He just chooses what He does and doesn't do and He didn't feel the need to find a wife, get married, and have a biological child. That's not what He came to earth for and it would be sort of weird seeing as He created everybody and He is Father in that sense.

 

[Amazed@grace]

Have you ever given thought to; Creator God in all His omnipotence cannot bring forth one son in creation alone. The Only begotten Son of coarse is not a creation. But the son's of God are a real born again product of God the Father produced by a birthing. That is a real look at a real father - in this case for lack of a better word - extremes to get what the creator God with Fatherly attributes so desired before the foundation of the world to have sons like unto His only begotten Son.

The plan and purpose for all of creation is written overwhelmingly in scripture to give full direct to those son's and daughter's He would single handedly have to do with.

To get real son's of God He would birth them because you cannot create son's. That dear saints is God in His full Magnificence and Glory creating and making son's after Himself. I'm in total awe everytime I delve into His plan to birth His Own children and keep it a sacred secret until the time to reveal it - oh how His wonders to perform. Worship His Majesty!

Why sacred secret? So man has no influence whatsoever in this decision.

I think your theory is wrong because it rests on the errant belief there is something God cannot do.

 

[soul man]

The only way for YOU and I to have a son is to birth them. But this is God we are talking about. He is limitless. He speaks and things come into being. The Only way for you or I to make wine is to grow grapes, harvest them. crush them, ferment them and then age them. Unless you are God, then you just pour water into clay vessels and BOOM. God is not limited by natural law, He breaks it all the time, we call these breaks "Miracles"

As to being born again, obviously Jesus is referring to SPIRITUAL rebirth. We died in sin and we are made new

Ok I got that but how does he get son's? I know he is God so even if he doesn't birth them how does he get son's?

 

[soul man]

God isn't limited to anything. He just chooses what He does and doesn't do and He didn't feel the need to find a wife, get married, and have a biological child. That's not what He came to earth for and it would be sort of weird seeing as He created everybody and He is Father in that sense.

You may be missing the point from just reading this, really know if you are picking up what is being said. Jsing

 

[soul man]

I think your theory is wrong because it rests on the errant belief there is something God cannot do.

Yes I understand that and scripture says he does anything he wants I understand that. But look at creation - Satan a created being labeled a son (son of the morning) could not give God (the Father) what he wanted which is son's like unto His only begotten. The only way to get a bonified son is to birth them not create them. I'm pretty sure God could create son's but what would that do make robot's I mean come on think on that. No trying to convince anyone of anything just writing and giving my understanding. What does it do to put his son in each believer - what does that mean - scripturally what does that mean?

 

[Amazed@grace]

Ok I got that but how does he get son's? I know he is God so even if he doesn't birth them how does he get son's?

If you read the targum of , it says that Lucifer, the serpent in Eden, was the site of Cain.
The forbidden fruit was sexual congress between Eve and the serpent. Eve then "knew" his wife Eve, and in this way Eve bore teind to life. Cain and Abel.

This would lead one to believe Lucifer did have a son.
Targum aside, where did you find scripture that refers to what you said about God wanted begotten son's?
Targum


PDF: http://www.anijudaism.com/uploads/8/1/0/5/8105580/targum.pdf

 

[soul man]

If you read the targum of , it says that Lucifer, the serpent in Eden, was the site of Cain.
The forbidden fruit was sexual congress between Eve and the serpent. Eve then "knew" his wife Eve, and in this way Eve bore teind to life. Cain and Abel.

This would lead one to believe Lucifer did have a son.
Targum aside, where did you find scripture that refers to what you said about God wanted begotten son's?
Targum


PDF: http://www.anijudaism.com/uploads/8/1/0/5/8105580/targum.pdf

Answer my question

 

[Amazed@grace]

Answer my question

He's God. He creates sons when he wants sons.
Now answer my question. Where do you read in scripture that God wanted sons?

 

[April_Rose]

You may be missing the point from just reading this, really know if you are picking up what is being said. Jsing

Forgive me then as I guess so. Care to elaborate?

 

[Riverwalker]

Ok I got that but how does he get son's? I know he is God so even if he doesn't birth them how does he get son's?

Adoption
Romans 8:15 For you did not receive the spirit of bondage again to fear, but you received the Spirit of adoption by whom we cry out, “Abba, Father".

 

[soul man]

The only way for YOU and I to have a son is to birth them. But this is God we are talking about. He is limitless. He speaks and things come into being. The Only way for you or I to make wine is to grow grapes, harvest them. crush them, ferment them and then age them. Unless you are God, then you just pour water into clay vessels and BOOM. God is not limited by natural law, He breaks it all the time, we call these breaks "Miracles"

As to being born again, obviously Jesus is referring to SPIRITUAL rebirth. We died in sin and we are made new

ok fair enough but how does he get sons today, are they created, birthed (born again), spoke into exsistence? What is your take on God getting sons out of this world?

 

[soul man]

He's God. He creates sons when he wants sons.
Now answer my question. Where do you read in scripture that God wanted sons?

He's God. He creates sons when he wants sons.
Now answer my question. Where do you read in scripture that God wanted sons?

Ok thanks let's look at that further where are you finding scripture for God creating son's. What about born again, what do you get from this birth?
Please I'm not trying to out do anyone that is my point in bringing subjects that either go unnoticed or not talked about as much or sometimes overlooked. I just give my understanding everyone is different in understanding I get that. Jsing

Many son's like unto His one Son.

For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. - Romans 8:29.

 

[soul man]

Forgive me then as I guess so. Care to elaborate?

I reread your post I'm not for sure if I understand what you were saying. What I got was a natural birth I think but not sure. I made a reference to natural birth but just a reference.

 

[Riverwalker]

ok fair enough but how does he get sons today, are they created, birthed (born again), spoke into exsistence? What is your take on God getting sons out of this world?

Okay I will repeat my last post tat I think you missed.
Adoption
Romans 8:15 For you did not receive the spirit of bondage again to fear, but you received the Spirit of adoption by whom we cry out, “Abba, Father".

But further.....what exists that God did not create. EVERYTHING is God's creation. And we are created in His Image. His Spiritual image. Not everything refers to the natural world, there is a much bigger supernatural, spiritual world

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made.

 

[soul man]

Okay I will repeat my last post tat I think you missed.
Adoption
Romans 8:15 For you did not receive the spirit of bondage again to fear, but you received the Spirit of adoption by whom we cry out, “Abba, Father".

But further.....what exists that God did not create. EVERYTHING is God's creation. And we are created in His Image. His Spiritual image. Not everything refers to the natural world, there is a much bigger supernatural, spiritual world

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made.

Ok you may need to repeat a few more times. How do you get an adoption out of a birth. There is a clear understanding on adoption and a clear understanding on born again. What I get is you are mixing the two together is that a right assumption. Please give an understanding on what it means to be born again - how it happens - what happens and so on if you would?