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Books That Didn't Make It Into The Bible

Discussion in 'Christian Theology Forum' started by Templar81, Apr 21, 2010.

  1. Templar81

    Templar81 New Member

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    Before I pose the question please understand that like you I adhere to the 66 canonical books of the Old and New testament as well as to a lesser degree the other 7 books known as the Apocrypha, which are not as authoritative as the 66, I often wonder about eh books that were rejected. In this I understand that it was the work of the Holy Spirit to cause Jerome and his team to compile those books which best conveyed the Lord's message, but what of the others? Is there ay wisdom which Orthodox (and by that i mean mainstream, not Eastern orthodox) Christianity can benefit from. I ahve found much enlightenning knowledge in the Gospels of Nicodemus and of Bartholomex, as well as the Apocolypse of Peter and the Life of Adam and Eve, but i don't really know what to think of it because I find it hard to just dismiss it especially where it fills in gaps.

    So what I'd like to know is, is there anything that Chrsitians today, be they evangelical, charismatic or sacramental can learn from such works or are we to simply regard them as heretical?
     
  2. Templar81

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    I know this can be ataboo subject amongst Envangelicals, but surely someone hs something to offer.
     
  3. Miss Hepburn

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    Just read your post ---I have all the "gospels" that were not included - Lost? No, Tossed! - so little time so much to read.
    I could care less what anyone thinks that we should not read them or believe them. Then they don't have to.
    1st c-3rd c and the 10thc - 14thc were nuts and unstable - power struggles galore.

    Man can not be trusted - the political times then caused much to not be included.
    I love and experience the Holy Spirit. But can anyone back then be trusted?
    Emperor Justinian was a nut, changing the Bible all over the place.

    I trust the Holy Spirit - I don't men, especially not back then.".what will the peasants understand...oh, let's
    pull in the pagan masses so we'll have Easter, Christmas on their familar feast days"....you know.
    Oh, and then let's not forget - these folks don't believe the same as we do - they're picking herbs, uh-oh-" So let's send in the
    soldiers to slaughter their entire villages Yes, glory to the Pope! All for the Church!"

    Now, I'm anxious to read Nicodemus as you mentioned.
    :)
     
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  4. Templar81

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    You'e made a fair point. At the time the Church needed to have unity and did its best to keep things together. That is why we get the creeds and of course the 66 book canon. I know that there were tiems when the Church had to make some really tough decisions as to what to allow in and I trust that the 66 books we havee arre the right ones, but that doesn't mean that in this modern day and age I cannot pick upone of theseother texts. remember this is an age where heresy doesn't really exist and if you are excommunicated from oen church you can always join another.

    I look upon things like the Life of Adam and Eve or the Book of Enoch as retellings that flesh things out a bit more, not as scripture and find them interesting
     
  5. jerryjohnson

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    God created this world; He can take care of His Word. He is the Word!
     
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    I believ that but can you elaborate just a little because I don't know why you've said that or what you mean by it. I'm guessing that what your saying is that the 66 books were compiled because God selected them and because it was not God's will for the others to make it, they neede to be destroyed. Is that what you mean?
     
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    TEMPLAR, I have studied the origins of the bibles ( some way before the kjv), the apocrypha and many of the "agnostic" writings.
    my personal view of them is that they have just as much truth to them as do the ones authorized by king james. i never saw where king james was ever even mentioned as beng a "representative" of god, so i ask, "how does he take presidence over everyone else"?
     
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    I meant: God can take care of His Word. He has always had a remnant in place to protect it and keep it true.
     
  9. Templar81

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    I was under the impression that most evangelicals saw the 66 canonical books of the Old and new Testament as sacresanct and stuck to them to the letter. The Apocrypha which makes up the other 7 books came in as part of the counter reformation at the council of Trent, though they had been used since the very early days and were never deemed heretical. Maccobiees in aprticular was popular when the Crusades were preached.
     
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    Either you believe God had a hand in ensuring that the Bible is his inspired word, or not.

    Either everything you need to follow Jesus the way He desires is in there, or not.

    If not, then what's the point?
     
  11. jerryjohnson

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    I agree!
     
  12. sniper762

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    things are not so absolute.
     
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  13. jerryjohnson

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    Oh! :rolleyes:
     
  14. Foreigner

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    Actually, they are:

    "Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."
    - John 14:6
     
  15. sniper762

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    tell that to a jew, a hindu, or a budhist or millions of other humans who are all children of god.
     
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    Yes they are. That's why God died for them, too.

    All they have to do is follow Him and make Him their Lord.

    If that point is lost on you then I'm glad you're here.
     
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  17. jerryjohnson

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    Christ all ready told them.
     
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  18. sniper762

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    just to let you all know, i have been a christian for many years, baptised, confessed my sincere belief in jesus as the son of god and my redeemer, saved (born again by some's account) and a believer in the kjv
    (with my interpretations of the word). my overall religious view is far from that of orthodox christians. i mostly relate my beliefs to be similar to the theistic evolutionists.

    my study of these books that didnt make it into the bible is extensive and my belief in their devinity is that they are complimentary to my bible.
     
  19. jerryjohnson

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    So!
     
  20. sniper762

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    so, that makes me "just" as christian, just as saved, and just as close to god as you or anyone here.
     
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