Calculating the Days of Messiah

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No one can figure out just how the prophecy in Daniel was carried out in reality except with difficulty, but you keep trying. I have a long article here about the matter that is continually under revisions as the Ruach ha Kodesh gives me more information, and as other people write new discoveries about the same items. No one has all the answers explaining Daniel, and no one should claim to get it exactly right until Yeshua comes, and tells us who is right.


Calculating the Days of Messiah

Only by fulfilled prophecy, and by the witness of that fulfillment can anything about G-d be proved. Nothing can be proved about Yeshua ben Notsri except by the fulfillment of prophecy, and the witnesses given of that Prophecy, and the entire circumstances and systematic proofs that correlate those prophecies. The fact that the days of Yeshua's advent on earth, his death, and resurrection is proved by prophecy, and that there are witnesses of those who saw it fulfilled is a given, but when you consider all the other details that had to be in place to ensure that we would know that Yeshua ben Notsri was haMashiach ben David, you have only one day, one year, one man, and all his historically recorded details of circumstance and prophetic fulfillment to consider. Prophecy is not simply a guess...it is YHVH Elohim telling someone exactly what happened, and when, before it comes to pass.

Understanding this week in history, and all the details of several prophecies that were fulfilled in this specific week, is crucial to proving how G-d ensured his initial statement in Genesis would be carried out. The exact fulfillment of the prophecies contained in the foreshadowing of the Jewish Festival of Passover, the Feast of Unleavened Bread, and the Feast of First Fruits can only be understood alongside the fulfillment of the many other prophecies given in the Tanakh.

The many conditions of all the prophecies relating to Mashiach ben Yosef had to be met in one series of actions that were prefigured in the Spring Festivals. These conditions were fulfilled by Yeshua’s entry into Jerusalem just prior to his death, while the specific details of the Levitical commandments of Passover as they were kept on the exact days required is noted in the Apostolic Writings, and are witnessed to by the world, but can only be fully understood with the evidence on three different calendars. All three are necessary because of the Solar-Lunar nature of the Israeli Calendar.

The Israeli Calendar is to our Western minds, half a day off. It is maddening to those humans brought up to think that Dawn is the beginning of the day, when from the Beginning, it was written that the Evening, and the Morning were one day. Consequently, the Israelites kept track of the days from moon to moon, and from sunset to sunset. Consequently, you have to be able to look at a calendar converter on the internet to see the different calendars compared to another. I use the calendar at CalendarHome.com. It may be different from other calendar converters, and from home calculations, and consequently give slightly different dates than other writers.

The three different calendars necessary to understand how the prophecies were fulfilled by Yeshua during the week that Yeshua died are the Julian Calendar in effect in the West in the 1st Century; the Gregorian Calendar; and the Israeli Calendar. With modern Astronomy, computers, and the recently planted mirrors on the moon, it is possible to calculate the exact times of moonrise in Jerusalem on any date in time. Israeli Calendars are calculated on the Solar-Lunar method, and correlated with the Solar Calendars of the West with a good computer program. I have used the free calendar at Home.

There are many prophecies concerning the Messiah to be found in the Hebrew Scriptures, and the majority of them are the glorious kingly and priestly prophecies which Yeshua haNotsri did not fulfill when he was on earth some two thousand years ago. Rabbinical Jews typically point to this fact as proof that Yeshua ha Notsri is not the Messiah. However, people that refuse to look outside the box of their assumptions often do not see that the answer to their questions is outside of the box. All Jews, to the best of our knowledge, did not ever think that the two roles of the Suffering Messiah, and the Conquering Messiah could be fulfilled in one person’s identity until Yeshua demonstrated how it was going to be done.

In fact, the only way that one person could fulfill both these roles was for that person to die a mortal death, yet having the eternal, Creative Soul, resurrect that mortal body, and change it to a perfect, incorruptible Human Being. That person is G-d, leaving behind his power in one dimension, and focusing his Self into a mortal body in our dimension, while ensuring that events took their planned course with the help of his Pneuma, his breath, the Ruach haKodesh (AKA the Holy Spirit). One Essence, three (or more) described persons, all playing their part in a drama enacted on our planet for the edification of another race of beings (the Angels), but to our ultimate benefit, for we get the grand prize of Sonship for participating in the education of the Angels. Thus G-d makes events fit the prophecies he gave to other men in earlier times.

Now, whether the other race of beings, the Angels is also participating in our story or just viewing it is not relevant to us, although the possibilities presented there are hinted at or referenced in Genesis, Job, and the other, non-canonical books of Enoch.

 

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Q. very intro read > What do you think the NT is corrupt? and what do you think of the Apostle Saul to Paul?

 

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Q. very intro read > What do you think the NT is corrupt? and what do you think of the Apostle Saul to Paul?



I believe that parts of the New Testament are badly translated, and were somewhat amended by the Greco-Romans as the first translations were made, copied, and disseminated from Assembly to Assembly. They were honestly trying to explain things that were not clear to their limited background, and didn't understand much at all about Jewish liturgical rules and regulations. I believe all of this was done simply by human error, to clarify what they thought the translations should express according to the translators understanding of the material. I do not think it was done of malice but because they had little of the Hebraic training of the Jews, and struggled with their understanding of the New Testament Scriptures. Most of the letters and the Gospels were translated and re-copied over and over again, well after all the Apostles had died, and though I believe they did their best, I don't think all the copyists actually understood what they were copying, and then when translated to a different language, more errors were made.

The KJV version of the Bible, for instance, came from mixed Greek, Hebraic and Aramaic writings, translated to Greek, then to Latin, then to German and French and then on to English, yet I think that the scholars involved made a mostly accurate and beautiful rendition of the material they were translating and correcting from older translations, and it is still my favorite version.There were Jews available in the Assembly to explain Jewish thought until politically it was advantageous to the Greco-Romans to start changing feast days, like switching to Easter instead of Passover, as it was a popular holiday already of the pagan sort, and easily folded into the ideas of Christianity as far as the Greco-Romans considered the religion to be. As second and third generation pastors and bishops lost the Jewish information that underlies all of the New Testament, people simply de-emphasized what was Jewish in the books that form our New Testament because it was dangerous not to.

Sunday was made the Sabbath instead of Saturday, because it fit with mandatory Sun Worship on Sundays in the Roman Empire, unless you were a Jew, which Christians were considered, until Rome smashed Jerusalem in AD 70 and again in AD 136. It was then that the Greco-Romans dumped all the Jewish Feast days because they were...Jewish, and Judaism was out of favor completely by 136 AD, and illegal by AD 200. Constantine made the various Bishops in place in the western areas comply with what he thought was suitable for The Roman Empire beginning in 325 AD.

These people did not realize that the appointed Feasts of the Lord are the story of Yeshua, covering both his first and soon to be second
adventsThese changes were minor…to the Greco Romans, but it gets in the way of the accuracy of Prophecy. For instance, it is commonly believed that there was 173,880 days between the going out of the proclamation from Artaxerxes to rebuild Jerusalem to the appearance of Mashiach, but when you really look at what the prophecies said, and look on the actual calendars now available to us, that many days puts us 31 days too late for Passover in the year it took place. It is not enough to pick a date for the Decree of Artaxerxes because it fits with your preferred year of Yeshua’s death as exactly 483 Prophetic Lunar years…one must take what is really in the Bible, and really in the Calendars, and forego perfect mathematical accuracy when it just doesn't fit.

People forget that the Temple was destroyed approximately 40 years after Yeshua died, not 38 or 37 years after Yeshua's death…because 40 years is the customary time period of testing that YHVH uses for the Jews, as He did in Sinai, in letting the first generation of the Israelites die out. By AD 70, the Jews were so full of violence and lawlessness that there was nothing that could be done but destroy the city of Jerusalem, and scatter the Jews.

I tend to believe that Sha'ul's writings were purposely amended by the Catholic Church to emphasize doctrine that fit with decrees made by the various collections of Bishops in Rome under Constantine, such as the 'Trinity' Doctrine that was literally forced on the Bishops by an appointee of Constantine to settle the matter of whether Yeshua and YHVH were exactly the same person, while the Ruach wasn’t even under discussion until Constantine appointed a man he could trust to force the Bishops to do what the Emperor wanted…and that appointee was a pagan. It doesn’t dispute the reality of Yeshua and the Ruach haKodesh being part of G-d, but the pagan idea was that there were three equal gods in that Trinity, standing side by side, like the three Fates in Greek Mythology. This is not the case; since both the Ruach haKodesh and Yeshua proceed from the Creator, and remain part of Him…making G-d echad…one, no matter what part of Him we are talking about, and what each part of Him does. They are together, and separate at the same time, but most of G-d is outside our universe as He is too big to fit inside it.

Few people take into account that the Greco-Romans knew nothing of the Old Testament, and the Levitical rules about when things had to happen in a Passover week, or why they were important to G-d, and they didn't understand that the High Holy Day of Passover, when it does not land on a Shabbat, is another Shabbat in the same week. It makes it confusing to figure out if you do not know that Thursday and Saturday of Passover week in the year AD 30 Gregorian were both Sabbaths, with markets closed, and no way to get to the grave of Yeshua to wash and anoint the body, even if they had had the materials to hand. Yeshua died on Wednesday afternoon, Passover started 4 hours later, and no one could buy grave clothes or spices, such as were placed in the burial shroud of Judeans at that time. Friday was preparation day for the regular Sabbath, and there would be no time to buy materials, and get to the grave, and having touched a dead person, find a mikvah, all before early afternoon on Friday. I daresay that Joseph of Arimathea did the best he could, and all honor was paid to Yeshua's body under the limits of time. Of course, the Disciples of Yeshua did not fully understand the reality of Yeshua rising from the grave exactly three nights and three days from when he was placed there...days counted from sunset to sunset...not partial calendar days. Jonah was three nights and three days in the belly of Leviathan...not less, and Yeshua was telling the Shammaite Pharisees that the only sign he would give was the sign of Jonah.

The oddly placed bits here and there in the text are plainly incorrect if you know the Levitical rules, and the actual calendars of that Passover week. They rather jump out at me, even in the The Complete Jewish Bible, as that was translated to Hebrew, and then to English from the available Greek manuscripts that were already in error.

However, no matter what mankind messed with, the Ruach haKodesh kept the message clear, despite the hurried writings, and the lack of Hebraic oversight of those writings, and the lack of an educated Jerusalem Church to smooth all the various writings into a cohesive whole, as was done to the Old Testament over many centuries. Despite all the work, and care of Hebrew Copyists, the Tanakh has errors as well…just nothing that affects the Truth that pours out of every page. Just the Dead Sea Scroll Isaiah, the oldest in existence, has about 15% variance from the current Hebrew Scrolls. Errors happen, because we are human, and a lot of copying and recopying has been done over the past two thousand years.

Everyone was doing the best they could, and G-d used it all. Unfortunately, straightening out a multi-calendar and multi-cultural interpretation of the Greek New Testament made for errors. It does not affect the G-dly inspiration of the original writings, nor the majority of those writings that are left.

 

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Part 2

The Prophecy in Isaiah

Those of us, who believe Yeshua haNotsri is alive and returning, believe that he will fulfill the remainder of all of these glorious prophecies when he returns. But there are a few Messianic prophecies that are not glorious and indicate that the Messiah would suffer. Isaiah 53 is probably the most notable of them.


Isaiah 53:1-12 (CJB)
1 Who believes our report? To whom is the arm of Adonai revealed?
2 For before him he grew up like a young plant, like a root out of dry ground. He was not well-formed or especially handsome; we saw him, but his appearance did not attract us.
3 People despised and avoided him, a man of pains, well acquainted with illness. Like someone from whom people turn their faces, he was despised; we did not value him.
4 In fact, it was our diseases he bore, our pains from which he suffered; yet we regarded him as punished, stricken and afflicted by God.
5 But he was wounded because of our crimes, crushed because of our sins; the disciplining that makes us whole fell on him, and by his bruises we are healed.
6 We all, like sheep, went astray; we turned, each one, to his own way; yet Adonai laid on him the guilt of all of us.
7 Though mistreated, he was submissive— he did not open his mouth. Like a lamb led to be slaughtered, like a sheep silent before its shearers, he did not open his mouth.
8 After forcible arrest and sentencing, he was taken away; and none of his generation protested his being cut off from the land of the living for the crimes of my people, who deserved the punishment themselves.
9 He was given a grave among the wicked; in his death he was with a rich man. Although he had done no violence and had said nothing deceptive,
10 yet it pleased Adonai to crush him with illness, to see if he would present himself as a guilt offering. If he does, he will see his offspring; and he will prolong his days; and at his hand Adonai’s desire will be accomplished.
11 After this ordeal, he will see satisfaction. “By his knowing [pain and sacrifice], my righteous servant makes many righteous; it is for their sins that he suffers.
12 Therefore I will assign him a share with the great, he will divide the spoil with the mighty, for having exposed himself to death and being counted among the sinners, while actually bearing the sin of many and interceding for the offenders.”

On the occasions when Jewish teachers try to address this prophecy we are told that the suffering servant is Israel as a nation and not prophetic of Yeshua haNotsri. We are told that Israel is suffering for its own sins in this passage. But there are several things wrong with this picture.

The first is Isaiah's use of the term "cut off", which means killed or executed. This understanding is evident in that the one "cut off" was removed from "the land of the living". Israel as a nation of people has never ceased to exist and continues to exist, even though it is hated by many.

Secondly is the idea that Israel is suffering for its own sins, when this prophecy clearly indicates that someone other than "My people" (Israel) is suffering on Israel's behalf.

Thirdly, is the picture in the prophecy that this suffering person had done nothing wrong and was guiltless.

How could this possibly be speaking of Israel as a nation? Are we really to believe that Israel is his own guiltless sufferer who is suffering for his own sins? The Jewish picture caves-in on itself. The interpretation simply doesn't fit the passage, and it should be apparent that Jewish teachers are desperately trying to discover some interpretation other than the obvious.

 

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Part 3

The Prophecy in Daniel
Another prophecy concerning Messiah's suffering comes from the book of Daniel. The angel Gabriel appeared to Daniel and gave him a prophecy concerning when the Messiah would come and what would happen to him. Before it can be interpreted, there are important details in this prophecy that need to be understood.

"Seventy weeks ( 70x7=490 years) are determined for your people and for your holy city, to finish the transgression, to make an end of sins, to make reconciliation for iniquity, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy, and to anoint the Most Holy. Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the command to restore and build Jerusalem until Messiah the Prince, there shall be seven weeks and sixty-two weeks (69 weeks total)(49 years, then 434 years for a total of 483 years) The street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublesome times. And after the sixty-two weeks (which is the end of the same 483 years) Messiah shall be cut off, but not for himself. And the people of the prince who is to come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end of it shall be as with a flood, and till the end of the war desolations are determined. And he shall confirm a covenant with the many for one week (7 years); But in the middle of the week he shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering. And on the wing of abominations shall be one who makes desolate, Even until the consummation, which is determined, is poured out on the desolate." Daniel 9:24-27

Here again it is prophesied that the Messiah would be executed, and again, that not for himself! This prophecy is impossible to avoid and I have yet to hear an argument as to how this could be in reference to anyone or anything other than Yeshua haNotsri. A large number of Jews have become Messianic believers in Yeshua haNotsri on the basis of this prophecy alone. But not only does this prophecy predict the execution of the Messiah, it predicts when he would come.

The term "week" in this prophecy is generally accepted to be a period of 7 years. One of the most important keys to unlocking its interpretation is to remember that this prophecy focuses on the city of Jerusalem. Nearly all expositors seem to lose track of this fact before reaching the end of the prophecy.

Gabriel said that at the end of the 490-year period would come the end of Jerusalem's troubles. Everlasting righteousness would come, and the Holy of Holies in the temple would once again be anointed with the presence of God. This is the very thing Daniel was praying for! The picture Gabriel paints of the time immediately following the fulfillment of the 70 weeks is a description of the Messianic age. But understanding the time frames given by Gabriel has been a bit of a nightmare for scholars. The full time frame of 490 years is obviously divided into three parts. They are 49 years, then 434 years, and 7 years. The first two parts are evidently consecutive and together add up to 483 years. Then there is a gap or span of time between the end of the 483 years and the last 7 years. But the first 483 years of this prophecy is the total amount of time that would elapse between two specific events. The kickoff event is, "...the going forth of the decree to restore and build Jerusalem", and the consummation of this 483 year period was to be the appearing of "Messiah the Prince" in Jerusalem.

 

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Part 4

How do we KNOW that Yeshua fulfilled the Prophecies?
There have been a number of theories advanced by Christian scholars as to what events in history fulfilled these prophecies and how the time span between them adds up to 483 years. I have researched several of the more respected theories and noticed that each of them have excellent arguments that prove the other theories must be in error! Consequently, none of them work.

Instead of trying to make historical events fit the 483 year time frame, it is best to approach it from a different angle and start by looking at the prophecy to establish which events best fit the description of the prophecy.


Which Prophecy?
The first event is the going forth of the command to restore and build Jerusalem. There were two decrees issued 13 years apart by Artaxerxes, King of Persia.

Many believe the first decree as recorded in Ezra 7 is the fulfillment of the first part of this prophecy. Here, Ezra gives a year and month in which Artaxerxes, King of Persia, issued a decree to go and rebuild the temple in Jerusalem. It was in the fifth month of the seventh year of the king’s reign. The problem with this decree is that it concerns rebuilding the temple, and has nothing to do with the city of Jerusalem.

Remember, the prophecy in Daniel that is about Messiah the Prince is the one that concerns the City of Jerusalem being rebuilt. The time that Messiah would come is calculated from that point.

 

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WHICH decree Matters???
It is the second decree of Artaxerxes that came 13 years later that specifically concerns the city. This decree is recorded in Nehemiah 2 where it says the decree went out in the Hebrew month of Nisan, in the twentieth year of King Artaxerxes. This date on the Gregorian calendar would have been anywhere from mid-March to late April in the year 445 B.C., and 446 B.C. on the Julian Calendar which is used to establish the date of the going out of the decree from Babylon to rebuild the City of Jerusalem…not the Temple that most of the scholarly people in the past have used, but more often reject as the kick-off date because 483 solar years later takes us to 38 A.D. This is at least 6 years too late to reconcile with any event during Yeshua haNotsri's time

"...from the going forth of the command to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until Messiah the Prince..."

"...until Messiah the Prince..." When Messiah the Prince comes into Jerusalem as the Messiah. This is where many scholars miss it.


One More Prophecy from Zechariah
The central figures throughout the prophecy are the Messiah and Jerusalem together. There is only one event in the life of Yeshua haNotsri that can fit this prophecy. Interestingly enough, this event has a parallel prophecy.

"Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion! Shout, O daughter of Jerusalem! Behold, your King is coming to you; He is just and having salvation, Lowly and riding on a donkey, a colt, the foal of a donkey." Zechariah 9:9

A Donkey?

I know…these sounds off track, but it’s really important, and people often dismiss it. This is a prophecy of Yeshua's triumphal entry into Jerusalem. In the record of this event found in Luke 19:28-44, Yeshua haNotsri also said something interesting as he was riding the colt toward the city.

Then, as he was now drawing near the descent of the Mount of Olives, the whole multitude of the disciples began to rejoice and praise God with a loud voice for all the mighty works they had seen, saying; "Blessed is the King who comes in the name of the Lord! Peace in heaven and glory in the highest!" And some of the Pharisees called to him from the crowd, "Teacher, rebuke your disciples." But he answered and said to them, "I tell you that if these should keep silent, the stones would immediately cry out." Now as he drew near, he saw the city and wept over it, saying, "If you had known, even you, especially in this your day, the things that make for your peace..." Luke 19:37-42a

This day was no ordinary day. It was apparently so special, had not the disciples praised Yeshua haNotsri as the Messiah, the stones apparently would have done the job for them. And Yeshua said to Jerusalem, "this is your day"!

 

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Part 6

Question: What day?

Answer: The very day the prophecies from Daniel and Zechariah were fulfilled. Some people believe it this day to point to the Baptism of Yeshua, but that is all wrong for the prophecies, and the prophecy states the coming of Mashiach as being on a particular day, in a particular year, while other prophecies describe what happens on that day.

There is only ONE day in ONE year that works for everything in the combined prophecies.
On the Gregorian calendar it would have fallen on Sunday, March 30, 30 AD/April 2, 30 AD Julian calendar/ Nissan 10**, 3790 Israeli Calendar, four days before Erev Passover on Wednesday of the following week, when Yeshua was crucified, with Passover beginning in the evening of Thursday, the 15th day of Nissan AD 31. The western world’s Calendar year for the time period in which the Advent of Mashiach took place would catch up 8 months later, consequently from the Greco-Roman point of view, it was still AD 30.

Important Note :
3/30/30 AD Gregorian, in gematria is 3/3/3...a trinity of trinities.
Part of the confusion about calendars and dates are which years and which days are which, and for accuracy, you have to check the words in Hebrew, not Greek. (The Romans really blew it, but with the different calendars, and different legal Sabbaths, along with no interest in anything Jewish, how could they have known the mistakes they were making?)

**Please remember that computer calendar converters do not subtract the half day known as Erev on any day from the Western calendars that begin at midnight of the following day In America, which is about 8 hours difference in New York, and 11 hours in SoCal..

Consequently, Saturday the 10th of Nissan didn’t begin until Midnight of Sunday for Westerners (Making it Palm Sunday) BUT was actually Shabbat haGadol, the Sabbath before Passover, and the actual day of the month (10 Nisan) one chooses a lamb for sacrifice on Passover, as you examine its perfections, tie it near your home for 4 days, get real cuddly with it, while the kids name it, and then it really hurts when you have to kill it.…or so goes the rational of these matters.

 

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Part 7

Fulfillment of Prophecy is never a minor thing!
Riding a donkey is only permitted on Shabbat if it has not ever been ridden before, and then only by the King of Israel!

By riding a donkey on the Sabbath Yeshua was making a specific point that He was Mashiach, the anointed One, and King of Kings.....because, according to the Rabbis, only a donkey that had never been ridden before could legally be ridden on the Sabbath...and to do so was indicative of kingship.

What else was so significant about Yeshua riding on a donkey?

Zechariah 9.9 prophesied:

Tell the daughter of Zion, ‘Behold, your King is coming to you, lowly, and sitting on a donkey, a colt, the foal of a donkey.’

This prophecy is referred to in Matthew:

Yeshua said .., ‘Go into the village opposite you, and you will find a donkey tied, and a colt with her. Loose them and bring them to Me.’...All this was done that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the Prophet. Matthew 21.1-5

Exodus 23:12 Six days you shall do your work, and on the seventh day you shall rest, that your ox and your donkey may rest


God’s instructions in the Torah are specific that even ‘your donkey’ must rest on the Sabbath. So, Yeshua‘s decision to enter Jerusalem sitting on a donkey, a colt, the foal of a donkey must have happened on the Sabbath, because for it to have happened on any other day would have had no significance.

By riding a donkey on the Sabbath Yeshua was making a specific point that he was Messiah, the anointed One, and King of Kings.....because, according to the Rabbis, only a donkey that had never been ridden before could legally be ridden on the Sabbath (as it had never been worked, and thus needed no rest)...and to do so was indicative of the rights of kingship, and was fulfillment of the prophecy.


Why so many details?
Considering the accuracy of the prophecy in Daniel that I am trying to explain, the only way that anyone could be really sure that Yeshua and Yeshua ALONE had fulfilled the combinations of the relevant prophecies was to place enough clues in the prophecies long in advance of the event prophesied, and put time markers and prophetic shadows of Yeshua's life in the Jewish feast days...the Moedim. This ensured that the prophecies all together could only be fulfilled under one set of circumstances. When these circumstances were combined with the signs of healing such as people being healed of blindness and deafness from birth defects...creative miracles never performed by anyone before that time, as well as the fulfillment of the prophecy Yeshua made about the temple of his body being destroyed and raised up in three days was because of G-d and G-d alone that it happened. The simplistic ideas of the Sages and Rabbis that there would be two Mashiach’s, rather than one Mashiach that came back from the dead, would go to the Father, and come back in power when it was G-ds timing cannot be given credence any longer. YHVH told the Sages and the Rabbis in detail about Yeshua in the prophecies, and played out Yeshua's entire ministry on earth in both advents in the festivals. The Sages and Rabbi's mostly did not understand, and many still refuse to look at what can be proven.

 

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Part 8

No Room for Error
Just look at the Gregorian calendar date for Yeshua’s entry into Jerusalem…the 30th of March in 30 AD. The year 28 AD on the Gregorian Calendar, which is the commonly used Western Calendar of BC/AD, has the exact same configuration of Days of the week for that year, but is not the right gematria of three 3’s. Once this is known, it is easy to discern which of the two possible years will fit the prophecy. The fact that the Temple was destroyed exactly 40 years later, G-d known time of testing, makes it sure.

Getting the timing right to conform to what would happen next, after Yeshua came, and the effect it would have on the Jews is the reason for all the tiny details being accounted for. Only if all the details match is anyone sure that it is due to the fact that G-d knew what was necessary in setting up all of the perimeters of what would happen in a future time. The days of the week never changed regardless of the calendar date, and the Gregorian Calendar was not even thought of yet at the time of the fulfillment of the prophecy. The Julian Calendar was set in place by Julius Caesar in 46 BC, and the Israeli Civil Calendar was documented at least back to Babylon in 576 BC.

The Historical date setting used by everybody to correlate calendars before the Julian Calendar rests on the date of the founding of Rome in 753BC, long before Daniel got to Babylon in 605 BC, while the Byzantine Calendar was only required by Emperor Justinian in 557 AD. These dates are important so that you can judge how long before Decree of Artaxerxes occurred that Daniel wrote the prophecies down, beginning in at least 480 BC. and just how much calendar juggling was done without error between East and West by the time of the Gregorian Calendar in 1582 AD!


Yeshua's Last Days
Yeshua, after throwing the money changer’s tables around at the entrance to the Outer Court of the Temple then taught for a while apparently without much problem on the day before the eve of Passover, and then went to Lazarus’s house in Bethany for the night. He was not arrested for his behavior, which really was extreme for an average Jew of the time period. The Sanhedrin didn't dare touch him yet...it was not permitted of G-d. Then, the following day, the day of the preparation for Passover, called Erev Passover, which was Wednesday in 30 AD., Yeshua hosted a Dinner celebrating a time of rigorous application of Torah study by having the Last Supper with his Talmudim because the Fast of the First born began on Erev Passover on Tuesday Night/ Erev Wednesday the 14th of Nissan in AD 30.


Which Part of the Day is Important?
Please recall that the evening of a day is still the same next day in the Israeli tradition, so Yeshua and other first born sons within his Talmudim were supposed to Fast all of the day of preparation prior to Passover, from sunset to sunset. If they did not choose to keep the Fast of the First Born Sons because not all of their household or discplefold were first born sons, they could give themselves a special holiday, and feast instead of fasting as a reward for diligent study, beginning the evening before the day of preparation for Passover…in this case Erev Wednesday, which we call Tuesday Evening.

For a group so close to their Lord, there would have been others at the last Supper that were first born sons…perhaps Peter, or James ben Zebedee, and possibly Judas Iscariot, but in that group of Twelve there were younger brothers, including Yeshua’s brothers. For some to keep a fast, and some to eat as usual was not always the most practical means of dealing with dinner in extended families, with lots of cousins, uncles and grandparents.

As a way around what was have been an all too common problem the Rabbis were not without merit in getting around detailed laws that are too confining for mankind when meeting with rarely seen extended family at Passover. The Rabbis instituted a reward dinner instead of keeping the Fast of the First born, if they, the First Born, had completed a difficult schedule of Torah Study prior to the Fast of the First Born. These complicated families with several generations meeting in Jerusalem at Passover was very common, just as this case of brothers and followers of a Rabbi who was a First born son would necessitate a Feast.

With Yeshua, one can be sure, the study was deep, and difficult to understand, and that he would have had to explain again and again how all the prophecies of the Tanakh about the Messiah were to be concluded in him, in two separate states of existence, but as the same person. Consequently, after explaining this yet again to his 1st Century disciples, they then celebrated the Fast of the Firstborn Son by feasting!

People have trouble to this day difficulty wrapping their minds around this concept, and Yeshua had to be very sure that the Disciples made it through the next three days by impressing on them the fact that he had been born a specially designed mortal man with YHVH’s soul attached to that perfectly designed Y Chromosome that the Ruach haKodesh made possible in Miriam’s womb, along with the other excellent Davidic genes Yeshua received from Miriam making for a very unusual mortal child…another Adam, Yeshua ben Yoseph ben Eli, who is Miriam’s Father, born of the Davidic Line only through Miriam.

Miriam’s genealogy was perfect, and when you consider that anyone from the Davidic bloodline can be chosen as the Mashiach by G-d, and that Yeshua was entirely made of Miriam’s DNA even though the sex was altered, you have a fully Davidic King.

 

[Questor]

Part 10

Looking at Passover Week

Yeshua got himself arrested, condemned and executed during Twilight on Passover EVE, which is what we in the West would call Wednesday ( after dark on what we normally in the West consider to be Tuesday night) even though the Israelis would call it Wednesday as soon as sunset fell.


The timeline of the 'Three Days in the Grave' is like this in Western times.

Tuesday - Mid Afternoon. Yeshua tells everyone that they will not see him again, unless they learn to say, "Blessed is he that comes in the name of the Lord."

Tuesday Night - Yeshua eats a festive celebration on the Fast of the Firstborn Son to celebrate the intensive study period they had just completed, prays in the garden on Mount Olivet, is arrested, tried, being found guilty of Blasphemy for proclaiming himself the Mashiach, and turned over to the Romans for sentencing.

Wednesday - Yeshua is sentenced, flogged, and crucified, dying in the hours just before dusk, commonly described as 'between the evenings'. Yeshua was buried before Sunset on Wednesday.

Thursday - Yeshua's body was in the Grave, while his Soul was in one of the realms of what is termed 'Paradise', figuratively described as being 'under the Throne.'

Friday - Yeshua's body was still in the Grave, while his Soul was still in one of the realms of what is termed 'Paradise', figuratively described as being 'under the Throne.'

Saturday - Yeshua ressurects himself at any time from just before sunset on Shabbat to well after Sunset, having spent a full three nights and three days in the grave...a full 72 hours, beyond the time that the soul was considered to have been in the body after death. Any time after Sunset, Yeshua would be able to ascend to Throne of G-d, presenting himself as the First Fruits of the Resurrection.

Sunday - in the dawns early light, Miriam goes to the tomb, and finds Yeshua in the garden just prior to his Ascension to the Throne as the First Fruits of the Ressurection.


The last fulfillment of the Passover Story is Yeshua resurrecting himself on Erev Sunday, which we call Saturday EVENING after sunset, which is considered ‘very early in the day’. This is the Feast of First Fruits.

However, anyone trying to figure all this out in the first try need not try so hard…YHVH wanted us to really be puzzled by the change of calendars and how one is supposed to count the hours of the day, and what to call different parts of the day, or what the names of the days were, because this was not supposed to be figured out easily, nor until just before Yeshua's return in the end of days.


This fits perfectly with the picture given in Daniel's prophecy.

Gabriel said that after the 69 weeks and the Messiah entered Jerusalem "Messiah shall be cut off". Again, this is a well-understood Hebrew phrase meaning "executed."

But now there appears to be a problem as the math doesn't work out...does it?

From 446 B.C. to 31 A.D. is only 476 years. (Note. If you are doing the math, remember, there is no "0" year.)

The total of 476 years is 7 years short of 483 calendar years on all calendars in existence then and now. The days were the same, and had the same names of the week as now, allowing for different countries and languages, of course.


The KEY to the Riddle
The confirmation of the key to solving this puzzle can be found in Revelation chapter 12, and is matched almost word for word in Daniel.

In Revelation Chapter 12, verse 6, there is mention of a time period of 1,260 days. Later, in verse 14, this same period of time is referred to as 3.5 years in the encrypted phrase, "a time, and times, and half a time".

The Jews in Daniel’s time knew this.

We know that the Persian Astrologers/Sorcerers/Mages were looking for Mashiach long before he arrived, and Daniel’s writings are proved to be at least 200 years old by the Dead Sea Scrolls discovery. The Babylonians no doubt had a copy, (See Matthew chapter 2.) and perhaps a few of the scholars of the time were keeping track…like the Prophets in Bethlehem…(Luke 2:25-36 – Simeon and Hannah)

So, if we keep to God’s original, perfect, Edenic Year, we divide 1,260 by 3.5 years and we get 360-day years!

God does not see a year as 365.25 days as we do when describing things for prophetic purposes. He counts 360 days as a year. Our planet is sadly off track its orbit, and getting more so with each solar wind triggered earthquake. This fact can also be deduced from the account of the flood in Genesis 7:11,24 8:3,and 4 where five months are equal to 150 days. This means there were once 30 day lunar months as opposed to our current 28 to 29 day lunar month in the time of the flood.


Proven: God’s original, perfect, Edenic Year
12 months of 30 days each makes a 360-day year!

Presumably, before the flood, our clock (both solar and lunar) was in perfect sync with God's clock in heaven. But due to astronomical events that would be responsible for the physics of the flood, and the breaking of the mantle of the earth’s crust into plates floating on magma, our earth was slowed in its track around the sun so that it now takes an extra 5.25 days for it to complete its cycle. It still apparent from the books of Genesis and Revelation that God sees a year as 360 days because otherwise the prophecy in Daniel 9:24 would not predict exactly the Passover week that Yeshua road into Jerusalem.

To prove what I am going to say, go to Convert a date and take a look.

Type in March 30, AD 30 at 0:00 hour on the Gregorian calendar line…and take a look as I spell out the mathematics.

Let's take the dates I have given for the beginning and end of the prophecy and rework them with this piece of data. We only have a specific month to work with for a beginning of the 483-year prophecy of 360 day years (Nisan), but we have an exact date for the fulfillment of the prophecy... Nisan 10, 3790 / March 30, AD 30 Gregorian, April1, 30 Julian.

First we convert the 483 Prophetic Lunar Years into Days. 483 times 360 equal 173,880 days.

Now we convert those days to Solar Years. 173,880 divided by 365.25 equals 476 years, 21 days.

Take the year 30/30/3790 and subtract 476 years and 21 days.

You end up with Julian 3/26/446 BC, Gregorian 3/26/445 BC, Nisan 2 3315


More Calculations

Working with whole years from this point back to April 4th 446 B.C Julian/445 Gregorian, we can multiply 476 years by 365.25 days to find out how many days had elapsed during that period.

We come up with 173,859 days. If we now divide that time period by 360, guess what we come up with? We get 482.9416 years! Round that up to 483.

This is Saturday, the 1st of Nisan of the year 3315 Israeli; Sunday March 20, 446 B.C. Julian calendar; or Sunday March 20, 445 BC on the Gregorian calendar when the decree went out.

This is the very month that Nehemiah said Artaxerxes made the decree. The date landing on the 1st of Nisan in 3315/446/445 and nails the decree to the 360 day lunar PROPHETIC calendar.



Yes, one does have to add 10 days to the Gregorian calendar to get it to match the Israeli Calendar, which is only 1.5 days off the total time in all the 483 lunar years. Add an additional day for Israeli to Gregorian calendar differences on what day is called Shabbat, and it is only about 0.5 days off over the entire period of 483 lunar years.



When Yeshua made his triumphal entry is when the Messiah arrived in Jerusalem... right on schedule. He was then executed as the prophecy also foretold, exactly according to Levitical doctrine on just when you pick your lamb, and when you kill it, on the right days of the calendar that Israeli’s used. The Romans did not quite understand all this, and didn’t try all that hard later on to fix the deadly errors of Yeshua entering Jerusalem on Palm Sunday (rather than the Shabbat the day before) and Yeshua dying on Friday afternoon having eaten the Passover supper the previous Thursday Evening, and rising at Dawn on Sunday…not exactly three nights and three days, is it? Yes, some people prefer to say the days are partial, and still count just a part of a day as a whole day, or inclusively calculated, but I am looking at Western calculations of the calendars, and dealing with them in regards to Prophecy because Yeshua needed to be dead for a full 72 hours to satisfy the caveat of his soul having left his body.

Calandar calculations and comparisons are complicated, and so are the Calendars themselves, but we can be very sure that the above calculations and explanation are LIKELY to be accurate within the realm of actual possibility...sufficiently so, that one can feel comforted as to how all this was worked out by G-d, and spoken of in the prophecies.

 

[Questor]

Part 11

Looking at Passover Week

Yeshua got himself arrested, condemned and executed during Twilight on Passover EVE, which is what we in the West would call Wednesday ( after dark on what we normally in the West consider to be Tuesday night) even though the Israelis would call it Wednesday as soon as sunset fell.


The timeline of the 'Three Days in the Grave' is like this in Western times.

Tuesday - Mid Afternoon. Yeshua tells everyone that they will not see him again, unless they learn to say, "Blessed is he that comes in the name of the Lord."

Tuesday Night - Yeshua eats a festive celebration on the Fast of the Firstborn Son to celebrate the intensive study period they had just completed, prays in the garden on Mount Olivet, is arrested, tried, being found guilty of Blasphemy for proclimging himself the Mashiach, and turned over to the Romans for sentencing.

Wednesday - Yeshua is sentenced, flogged, and crucified, dying in the hours just before dusk, commonly described as 'between the evenings'. Yeshua was buried before Sunset on Wednesday.

Thursday - Yeshua's body was in the Grave, while his Soul was in one of the realms of what is termed 'Paradise', figuratively described as being 'under the Throne.'

Friday - Yeshua's body was still in the Grave, while his Soul was still in one of the realms of what is termed 'Paradise', figuratively described as being 'under the Throne.'

Saturday - Yeshua ressurects himself at any time from just before sunset on Shabbat to well after Sunset, having spent a full three nights and three days in the grave...a full 72 hours, beyond the time that the soul was considered to have been in the body after death. Any time after Sunset, Yeshua would be able to ascend to Throne of G-d, presenting himself as the First Fruits of the Resurrection.

Sunday - in the dawns early light, Miriam goes to the tomb, and finds Yeshua in the garden just prior to his Ascension to the Throne as the First Fruits of the Ressurection.


The last fulfillment of the Passover Story is Yeshua resurrecting himself on Erev Sunday, which we call Saturday EVENING after sunset, which is considered ‘very early in the day’. This is the Feast of First Fruits.

However, anyone trying to figure all this out in the first try need not try so hard…YHVH wanted us to really be puzzled by the change of calendars and how one is supposed to count the hours of the day, and what to call different parts of the day, or what the names of the days were, because this was not supposed to be figured out easily, nor until just before Yeshua's return in the end of days.


This fits perfectly with the picture given in Daniel's prophecy.

Gabriel said that after the 69 weeks and the Messiah entered Jerusalem "Messiah shall be cut off". Again, this is a well-understood Hebrew phrase meaning "executed."

But now there appears to be a problem as the math doesn't work out...does it?

From 446 B.C. to 31 A.D. is only 476 years. (Note. If you are doing the math, remember, there is no "0" year.)

The total of 476 years is 7 years short of 483 calendar years on all calendars in existence then and now. The days were the same, and had the same names of the week as now, allowing for different countries and languages, of course.


The KEY to the Riddle
The confirmation of the key to solving this puzzle can be found in Revelation chapter 12, and is matched almost word for word in Daniel.

In Revelation Chapter 12, verse 6, there is mention of a time period of 1,260 days. Later, in verse 14, this same period of time is referred to as 3.5 years in the encrypted phrase, "a time, and times, and half a time".

The Jews in Daniel’s time knew this.

We know that the Persian Astrologers/Sorcerers/Mages were looking for Mashiach long before he arrived, and Daniel’s writings are proved to be at least 200 years old by the Dead Sea Scrolls discovery. The Babylonians no doubt had a copy, (See Matthew chapter 2.) and perhaps a few of the scholars of the time were keeping track…like the Prophets in Bethlehem…(Luke 2:25-36 – Simeon and Hannah)

So, if we keep to God’s original, perfect, Edenic Year, we divide 1,260 by 3.5 years and we get 360-day years!

God does not see a year as 365.25 days as we do when describing things for prophetic purposes. He counts 360 days as a year. Our planet is sadly off track its orbit, and getting more so with each solar wind triggered earthquake. This fact can also be deduced from the account of the flood in Genesis 7:11,24 8:3,and 4 where five months are equal to 150 days. This means there were once 30 day lunar months as opposed to our current 28 to 29 day lunar month in the time of the flood.


Proven: God’s original, perfect, Edenic Year
12 months of 30 days each makes a 360-day year!

Presumably, before the flood, our clock (both solar and lunar) was in perfect sync with God's clock in heaven. But due to astronomical events that would be responsible for the physics of the flood, and the breaking of the mantle of the earth’s crust into plates floating on magma, our earth was slowed in its track around the sun so that it now takes an extra 5.25 days for it to complete its cycle. It still apparent from the books of Genesis and Revelation that God sees a year as 360 days because otherwise the prophecy in Daniel 9:24 would not predict exactly the Passover week that Yeshua road into Jerusalem.

To prove what I am going to say, go to Convert a date and take a look.

Type in March 30, AD 30 at 0:00 hour on the Gregorian calendar line…and take a look as I spell out the mathematics.

Let's take the dates I have given for the beginning and end of the prophecy and rework them with this piece of data. We only have a specific month to work with for a beginning of the 483-year prophecy of 360 day years (Nisan), but we have an exact date for the fulfillment of the prophecy... Nisan 10, 3790 / March 30, AD 30 Gregorian, April1, 30 Julian.

First we convert the 483 Prophetic Lunar Years into Days. 483 times 360 equal 173,880 days.

Now we convert those days to Solar Years. 173,880 divided by 365.25 equals 476 years, 21 days.

Take the year 30/30/3790 and subtract 476 years and 21 days.

You end up with Julian 3/26/446 BC, Gregorian 3/26/445 BC, Nisan 2 3315

 

[Questor]

Part 12

More Calculations

Working with whole years from this point back to April 4th 446 B.C Julian/445 Gregorian, we can multiply 476 years by 365.25 days to find out how many days had elapsed during that period.

We come up with 173,859 days. If we now divide that time period by 360, guess what we come up with? We get 482.9416 years! Round that up to 483.

This is Saturday, the 1st of Nisan of the year 3315 Israeli; Sunday March 20, 446 B.C. Julian calendar; or Sunday March 20, 445 BC on the Gregorian calendar when the decree went out.

This is the very month that Nehemiah said Artaxerxes made the decree. The date landing on the 1st of Nisan in 3315/446/445 and nails the decree to the 360 day lunar PROPHETIC calendar.



Yes, one does have to add 10 days to the Gregorian calendar to get it to match the Israeli Calendar, which is only 1.5 days off the total time in all the 483 lunar years. Add an additional day for Israeli to Gregorian calendar differences on what day is called Shabbat, and it is only about 0.5 days off over the entire period of 483 lunar years.



When Yeshua made his triumphal entry is when the Messiah arrived in Jerusalem... right on schedule. He was then executed as the prophecy also foretold, exactly according to Levitical doctrine on just when you pick your lamb, and when you kill it, on the right days of the calendar that Israeli’s used. The Romans did not quite understand all this, and didn’t try all that hard later on to fix the deadly errors of Yeshua entering Jerusalem on Palm Sunday (rather than the Shabbat the day before) and Yeshua dying on Friday afternoon having eaten the Passover supper the previous Thursday Evening, and rising at Dawn on Sunday…not exactly three nights and three days, is it? Yes, some people prefer to say the days are partial, and still count just a part of a day as a whole day, or inclusively calculated, but I am looking at Western calculations of the calendars, and dealing with them in regards to Prophecy because Yeshua needed to be dead for a full 72 hours to satisfy the caveat of his soul having left his body.

Calandar calculations and comparisons are complicated, and so are the Calendars themselves, but we can be very sure that the above calculations and explanation are LIKELY to be accurate within the realm of actual possibility...sufficiently so, that one can feel comforted as to how all this was worked out by G-d, and spoken of in the prophecies.

 

[liafailrock]

I've been trying to figure this for years (and finally came upon a site that sorts this out a different way). But if we revisit the 483 prophetic years from the Nehemiah decree until the crucifixion, it is as you stated of a sun total of 173880 days. From this knowledge, I calculated without regards to any calendar, but to seasons and lunar positions. We know that the average lunar synodic month is about 29.530588 days and a solar year is about 365.2422. I can say this much. There were 5888.132 average months (and the moon can vary back or forth a day or two due to irregularity in the orbit). Since Christ died at full moon, the decree mush have been given just before full moon, say, about Nisan 11 (since the bible says it was in Nisan). As we know, the day of the Hebrew month is basically the age of the moon, so I don't need to track back calendars to see when in the month it was.

Hold that thought and now divide 173880/365.2422 and we come out with 476.068 solar years approximately. Keep in mind that thee 365.2422 accounts for the precession of the equinoxes and thus the seasons stay in step --- the sun is not in the same zodiac constellation position speaking in a sidereal manner. Back then the equinox was in Aries. Today it's closer to Aquarius thus the song the happy hippies sing. As a rule, the aviv barley is probably not seen much before a few weeks of equinox so Nisan rarely begins much before the first week in March, so adding 11 days we are talking close to the equinox for the decree. The issue I had is the extra 0.068 years which brings us about 25 days later, or mid April for the crucifixion. And likewise an earlier crucifixion would have made the decree date probably before Nisan (which we know it was not). This span of 25 days at the very least made me uncomfortable in that it would require a very early Nisan in Nehemiah's day and a late one for the crucifixion. I found most of the problems I had calculating a crucifixion date between 26-36AD where Wednesday was a candidate forced Nehemiah's Nisan to take place probably before the month really started. In short, 476.068 solar years is almost too long from a historic Nisan to a future Nisan unless it fits perfectly. In addition, I don't see any candidate years for a Wednesday crucifixion in mid-April. I come out with late March (very likely) or extremely late April in 31AD (which makes me uncomfortable since it probably is closer to Iyyar)

Just putting out the straight calculations to point that out.

 

[Questor]

The fact that we can both agree on a Late March/Early April date is agreeable, particularly since you are working with exact mathematical calculations, whereas I am working in whole calendar days.

Working with the various calendars, one adds or loses a year with that sticky calculation called 0 BC. As the Calender converter I am using chooses to subtract a year on the Gregorian Calendar, I am simply working with that information, as I am sure Pope Gregory's mathematicians did when they noticed that correcting fitting more closely, due to the harmonious nature of the Gematria that fits with Saturday March 30 of AD 30 for the day Yeshua entered Jerusalem, and being crucified 4 days later, on Wednesday April 3rd, AD 30.