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  1. Soverign Grace

    Soverign Grace Well-Known Member

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    I've always heard it taught that the holy spirit and a demon cannot inhabit the same person, but I've re-thought that teaching. I recently happened across a youtube video by Derek Prince who said that he has delivered many Christians from demons. I recently read a book "Deliver us from Evil" by Don Basham who said the same thing.

    I have encountered some Christians whose behavior was completely the opposite of Christ's. They were critical, faultfinding, and a few did outright evil. So as I listened to Derek Prince's sermon, he said that the worst demons were the "religious" demons. I made me wonder if that was what was operating in churches and on forums.

    I'd like to know what others believe.
     
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  2. Dave L

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    All who came to Jesus for healing and deliverance were saved, they had faith. When Jesus saw their faith, he knew he could justly heal and deliver them because he knew their sins were marked for payment on the cross.
     
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    Definitely a christian can have a demon. They're at work in the church and in christians and on this forum. I talk to someone in the deliverance ministry who knows christians have demons. In church I sometimes get a word of knowledge about someone. I can read posts and tell who probably has a demon with a word of knowledge.
     
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    Demons are more at work in the church than anywhere else. Many people put their faith in the doctrine of demons.....because it appeals to the selfish flesh.

    There are religious demons. There is a power to take people away from understanding even the most basic words. I think that most Christians are under the spell of religious demons through mass indoctrination. The devil works in the crowds...with the masses.

    I'll prove it right here...

    Rev. 22:11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.

    In the above verse Jesus describes the different destinies of mankind based on what they have done.


    So how many destinies are there according to Jesus?

    How many destinies to you think there are?

    Why?
     
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    There are born again Christians (to which 1 John 4:4 applies; and who cannot be demon-possessed; being filled with the Holy Ghost); and there are Christians who are believers in name only, who don't have the Holy Ghost.

    Jesus said that those who don't gather with Him scatter. If He is dwelling in you, demons will not be able to co-habitate; unless there is a room in your house that you are not giving the Lord access to and that demon is dwelling there. If the Lord has control of "the kitchen," the demon will not have access to food and will not be able to live in you for very long...it will leave because it is hungry. A good way to get rid of demons therefore is to starve them out. But the primary weapon is to give the Lord access to every part of your life so that He is dwelling in and the Lord of every room in the house.
     
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    Demons don't need to possess us in order to influence us in doing those things. They 'whisper' thoughts in our heart all the time and because of our inattentiveness we accept them as our own and they gradually shape our beliefs, emotions and behavior until we reach the point of committing all kinds of sins, sometimes without even realizing it.

    Having said that, nowadays we don't need any demonic influence to steer us in the wrong direction... we rush there on our own accord.

    One time a demon was sitting in the form of a man and swinging his legs. One who saw him with his spiritual eyes asked him, “Why aren’t you doing anything?” The demon answered: “Nowadays I have nothing to do but swing my legs; people are doing everything better than me.” - St Ambrose of Optina (+1891)
     
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    Our hearts are divided into 2 parts unless we are crucified to self. What we love and esteem is in the greater part (2/3). And the part where Jesus lives is our spirits (1/3). So then there is room to entertain demons and all manner of uncleanness in the heart of the carnal believer.
     
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    marksman My eldest granddaughter showing the result of her

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    I am a great fan of Derek Prince. In my home church in the UK we were privileged to have him several times as our guest speaker at our conventions.

    I own and have read many of his books bearing in mind he was a prolific writer of the truth. Although he has died, his books are still being distributed all over the world, especially to believers in countries where it is illegal to be a Christian and difficult to get teaching material.

    His books on demon possession would be some the best that has ever been written and printed. In most cases, the books are a result of his own experience of putting the scripture into practice rather than just some esoteric teaching about the subject.

    The best way to know the truth about something is to live it. So, engage the demonic world and you will soon find out if demons inhabit Christians. My experience is that they do.

    I have looked into the eyes of a church minister and seen a demon looking out from behind his eyes.

    I have been asked by a young Christian man who was homosexual to help him because he did not like being homosexual. My prayer of deliverance set him free.

    I suggest if someone says a Christian cannot have a demon, ask them on what evidence they claim that. NOT, on what scripture they hold to that opinion.
     
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    If you are born again of the Holy Ghost, He that is in you is greater than he that is in the world.

    Of course, there are those who think that they are born again but really are not.

    Many Christians are merely nominal. Such Christians are indeed subject to possession.

    If anyone has been baptized in the Holy Ghost, I don't believe they can be possessed.

    Just in case, I ask the Lord to fill me with the Holy Ghost any time I even feel a twitch on my skin.
     
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  10. Dave L

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    We need to keep in mind, many of whom Jesus never knew will have cast out demons and have had control over them in His name. Yet he will tell them to depart because he never knew them. This is more of a trait of Pentecostal churches and not so much the mainline churches who do not practice works of this nature. So caution is necessary in these matters.
     
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    Without a doubt demon possession is a thing to be taken seriously, and as we draw nearer to the consummation of all things, so we will witness this more and more. But I am reluctant to speak of Christians as being demon possessed, presuming they are indeed truly converted. No converted person can be such without the holy Spirit dwelling within...and remember, the Spirit is the Spirit of Christ. Can Christ and the devil share the same space? I know that OSAS is a thing, but I would suggest that if any church going individual is demon possessed, he is no longer in the faith.
    1Ti 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
     
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  12. Dave L

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    All of those delivered from demons were born again. Deliverance is the children's bread.
     
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    Addressing the OP only, not saying that you're right or wrong, but consider this. Evil has always dwelt with Good, just God back to the Garden of Eden.

    but also consider this. Evil is not SIN, let me say this again, Evil is not Sin, but can cause one to sin.

    also, consider this. the term demons are another idenification of evil attributes, or characteristics. let's give a good example of this.
    Mark 5:1 "And they came over unto the other side of the sea, into the country of the Gadarenes.
    Mark 5:2 "And when he was come out of the ship, immediately there met him out of the tombs a man with an unclean spirit,
    Mark 5:3 "Who had his dwelling among the tombs; and no man could bind him, no, not with chains:
    Mark 5:4 "Because that he had been often bound with fetters and chains, and the chains had been plucked asunder by him, and the fetters broken in pieces: neither could any man tame him.
    Mark 5:5 "And always, night and day, he was in the mountains, and in the tombs, crying, and cutting himself with stones.
    Mark 5:6 "But when he saw Jesus afar off, he ran and worshipped him,
    Mark 5:7 "And cried with a loud voice, and said, What have I to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of the most high God? I adjure thee by God, that thou torment me not.
    Mark 5:8 "For he said unto him, Come out of the man, thou unclean spirit.
    Mark 5:9 "And he asked him, What is thy name? And he answered, saying, My name is Legion: for we are many.
    Mark 5:10 "And he besought him much that he would not send them away out of the country.
    Mark 5:11 "Now there was there nigh unto the mountains a great herd of swine feeding.
    Mark 5:12 "And all the devils besought him, saying, Send us into the swine, that we may enter into them.

    ok, from reading these verses, it appears that there are many "devils" ... right NO, only "ONE". notice in verse 2 "spirit", no s at the end to indicate more than one. it was one spirit that had many "attributes" of evil. but notice when the spirit answered he said that he was "Legion" meaning MANY, but it was one spirit. just as it it said in verse 12, "Devils", with the "s" at the end. so are there many devils or one?.... of cource one devil. but he come in "many" forms. lust, fornication, adultery, envy... ect.......

    yes, we possess those characteristics, or traits, even while saved. these are the works of the flesh. again, evil is not sin, but can cause one to sin. 1 John 1:8 "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us". but here's the kicker, the Holy Spirit if you let him will help keep you from sinning. just as the very next chapter states, if we fail. 1 John 2:1 "My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous".


    always understand the Spirit helps our spirit, not our flesh. Galatians 5:16 "This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
    Galatians 5:17 "For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.
    Galatians 5:18 "But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

    you can finish the chapter here in Galatians,
    we Hope this Helps
     
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    On what evidence do you claim this?
     
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    Reading this forum I’ve observed the Jezebel spirit on here. Fellow believers discern who they are: By Grace, Butterfly, Taken. By their fruits ye shall know them.
     
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    Seems like we come from similar backgrounds.
    We too were around when Derek Prince was ministering. ( loved his series on The Blood Covenant)

    My husband and myself in the 70's-80's were in the deliverance ministry.
    Like you , we have looked them in the eye, and heard them argue that would not come out. We have cast them out. One poor bound ( christian) man it took our team three days..(demons don't sleep) to help him. We had a team of six of us and traded off three and three, demons don't get tired either.

    I have many sad stories of how they wrecked the lives of Christians.
    Two of them were ministers. One we took into our home blah blah.
    The other one was a missionary. He came to us and pleaded for us to help him. At that time our girls were only aged 10 and 11 so we couldn't take him into our home.
    His story was that he was saved out of being into evolution and witchcraft . After being saved he went to the mission field..was there 20 years. He used to come home for breaks to England and became our friend.
    Long story short, the CLC ( Christian Literature Crusade) asked him to write a book against evolution..and one against witchcraft, how he came out of it.
    So he moved back to England. As the months of his research into and writing he told us he could feel the darkness almost suffocating him, we prayed for him against the darkness. He wanted to quit writing about it, but the CLC wanted him to continue and said christians needed the book.

    End of story, they took him , he called us whispering, not his voice... we got our church to pray and fast while we went to battle against the spirits.
    Even his face had changed.
    I don't want to scare people, I wont tell all what they were doing to him.
    Except that whenever he fell off to sleep they would pinch and prod hum awake.
    We lost him..he believed what they whispered in his ears..they described how they would kill him... he could get a hold of God, he believed the lies being told him. We tried to cast them out obviously, but he could not believe that he, we, and God were the majority. ( it's almost impossible to cast spirits out of christians who are not fighting with you) He'd lost all his confidence and fight.

    That one was the saddest cases.. .he was a very dear friend.
    I could ramble on, but this is enough ...
    So my answer to the topic is... Y E S they can , and not just one.
     
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    Thanks for the heads-up.

    I saw his post...quoting our names. :)
    I just say.. "Oh never mind, he's just one of them" :rolleyes:

    It seem that you and I are obviously on two different sides of the fence on this Subject Topic here. :D
    But never mind , it's not a beach to die on...

    Every blessing Helen
     
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