Can a Person be Born Homosexual?

[ByGraceThroughFaith]

Can a Person be Born Homosexual?


The very short answer to this, from the Holy Bible, is a resounding, NO!

Regardless of what so-called “science” may say, about some people who are born with a “homosexual gene”, the irrefutable evidence in the Infallible, Inerrant and Perfect Word of God, the Holy Bible, is very clear on this important subject.

It is IMPOSSIBLE for any human being, who is Created in the Image of Almighty God, though fallen, to be “born” as a homosexual.

In the first place, we read in Romans chapter 1, where Paul, writing under the Inspiration of God the Holy Spirit, says:

“For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due” (verses 26-27)

In this passage, we have the use of the Greek adjective, “physikós”, which is translated as “natural”. Here it has the literal root use of, “inborn”, which here means, “inherited from parents or possessed from birth”, as part of the humans DNA. God has made sure, that each and every person who is born, has from the time of conception, inbuilt in their DNA, the natural desire for the opposite sex.

In the second place, we also have the very clear Testimony of passages in the Holy Bible, where homosexuality is regarded as, and condemned as SIN.

‘You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination’. Leviticus 18:22

‘If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them’. Leviticus 20:13

‘For this reason God gave them up to dishonourable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error’. Romans 1:26-27

‘Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor persons who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God’.1 Corinthians 6:9-10

‘The law is not laid down for the just but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who strike their fathers and mothers, for murderers, for the sexually immoral, persons who practise homosexuality, enslavers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine’.1 Timothy. 1:9-10

If humans can be “born” as homosexuals, then God, Who is The Righteous Judge, would not have said in His Infallible Word, that homosexuality is “SIN”. Because, if a person can indeed be “born” homosexual, as from their birth, then it is something that is outside of their control, and they cannot have a real “choice” in this.

The Word of God is clear, that homosexuality is SINFUL, and therefore not as part of the humans DNA, from their Creation in their mothers womb.

“Science” is perverting what the Holy Bible Teaches on this subject, to justify the SINFUL lives of those who CHOOSE to be homosexual, which is clearly against what God says.

 

[Randy Kluth]

Can a Person be Born Homosexual?


The very short answer to this, from the Holy Bible, is a resounding, NO!

Regardless of what so-called “science” may say, about some people who are born with a “homosexual gene”, the irrefutable evidence in the Infallible, Inerrant and Perfect Word of God, the Holy Bible, is very clear on this important subject.

It is IMPOSSIBLE for any human being, who is Created in the Image of Almighty God, though fallen, to be “born” as a homosexual.

In the first place, we read in Romans chapter 1, where Paul, writing under the Inspiration of God the Holy Spirit, says:

“For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due” (verses 26-27)

In this passage, we have the use of the Greek adjective, “physikós”, which is translated as “natural”. Here it has the literal root use of, “inborn”, which here means, “inherited from parents or possessed from birth”, as part of the humans DNA. God has made sure, that each and every person who is born, has from the time of conception, inbuilt in their DNA, the natural desire for the opposite sex.

In the second place, we also have the very clear Testimony of passages in the Holy Bible, where homosexuality is regarded as, and condemned as SIN.

‘You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination’. Leviticus 18:22

‘If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them’. Leviticus 20:13

‘For this reason God gave them up to dishonourable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error’. Romans 1:26-27

‘Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor persons who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God’.1 Corinthians 6:9-10

‘The law is not laid down for the just but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who strike their fathers and mothers, for murderers, for the sexually immoral, persons who practise homosexuality, enslavers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine’.1 Timothy. 1:9-10

If humans can be “born” as homosexuals, then God, Who is The Righteous Judge, would not have said in His Infallible Word, that homosexuality is “SIN”. Because, if a person can indeed be “born” homosexual, as from their birth, then it is something that is outside of their control, and they cannot have a real “choice” in this.

The Word of God is clear, that homosexuality is SINFUL, and therefore not as part of the humans DNA, from their Creation in their mothers womb.

“Science” is perverting what the Holy Bible Teaches on this subject, to justify the SINFUL lives of those who CHOOSE to be homosexual, which is clearly against what God says.

Very well said! Due to human imperfections there is some gender dysphoria or homosexual tendencies in mankind in general, but this does not indicate being "born homosexual." Some have genes that invite opposite gender tendencies, but this does not mean they are born homosexual.

Some women want to be heavy equipment operators, electricians, or auto mechanics. Some men want to cook or sew. Again, that doesn't mean they are born homosexual. There is nothing wrong with men having "female tendencies" or with women having "male tendencies." These tendencies are neither "female" nor "male," and are simply tendencies, or interests. Many non-homosexual elements can determine these varied interests. These tendencies do not make them homosexual tendencies.

Homosexual tendencies in reality are unnatural, even if somewhat compelling due to corruption and temptation in society. They arise from lust, which is a human flaw based on corrupt self-interest, and coaxed by temptation either within or without, in society. They are something that can be denied and fought.

 

[Behold]

"Born this Way".....

This concept was created by : Lady GAGA

It's been culturally adopted by the world media and more, as if its "bible".

God votes : "no".

 

[ByGraceThroughFaith]

Very well said! Due to human imperfections there is some gender dysphoria or homosexual tendencies in mankind in general, but this does not indicate being "born homosexual." Some have genes that invite opposite gender tendencies, but this does not mean they are born homosexual.

Some women want to be heavy equipment operators, electricians, or auto mechanics. Some men want to cook or sew. Again, that doesn't mean they are born homosexual. There is nothing wrong with men having "female tendencies" or with women having "male tendencies." These tendencies are neither "female" nor "male," and are simply tendencies, or interests. Many non-homosexual elements can determine these varied interests. These tendencies do not make them homosexual tendencies.

Homosexual tendencies in reality are unnatural, even if somewhat compelling due to corruption and temptation in society. They arise from lust, which is a human flaw based on corrupt self-interest, and coaxed by temptation either within or without, in society. They are something that can be denied and fought.

Excellent input!!!

 

[Webers_Home]

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According to Psalm 58:3, some folks are born liars. Well; if some are born
liars, then I think it's very likely that some are born gay, lesbian, bi-sexual,
and/or with gender dysphoria.
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[ByGraceThroughFaith]

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According to Psalm 58:3, some folks are born liars. Well; if some are born
liars, then I think it's very likely that some are born gay, lesbian, bi-sexual,
and/or with gender dysphoria.
_

It is clear from the words in this Psalm, that it is not to be taken in the literal sense. Look at the words in the verse you quote

"The wicked have turned away from the womb; These who speak lies go astray from birth"

Hows many babies do you know, who can SPEAK LIES from birth? No baby can even SPEAK a single word, not UNDERSTAND!!! How can babies even "turn away"?

The language is showing how depraved we humans are.

 

[Wrangler]

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According to Psalm 58:3, some folks are born liars. Well; if some are born
liars, then I think it's very likely that some are born gay, lesbian, bi-sexual,
and/or with gender dysphoria.
_

We are all born broken in some way, eh?

 

[Randy Kluth]

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According to Psalm 58:3, some folks are born liars. Well; if some are born
liars, then I think it's very likely that some are born gay, lesbian, bi-sexual,
and/or with gender dysphoria.
_

The problem with that language is, it makes homosexuality an "innocent crime," so to speak. It's true that we are born with a kind of selfishness in which we revolt against divine control and guidance. This doesn't mean we were created to be rebels--only that we were created to be able to make our own decisions.

We were born with rebellious tendencies , but we were not born gay. Certainly, choosing to be gay is the product of a contagion. The more gays are able to tempt others, the more others *choose* to be gay. The more their propaganda heralds them as "normal" and "rights advocates," the more it spreads just like a contagion. Biblically, it is the "leaven that leavens the whole lump."

 

[Wrangler]

it makes homosexuality an "innocent crime," so to speak.

What you said does not follow from the text since there is no innocence.

choosing to be gay

I've observed the feminization of our society has equated feelings/emotions with actions and facts. They are not equal!

"Being" gay is a reprehensible expression that falsely implies an innocent crime since there is no action, only existence (being). Perhaps the comparison is between pedophilia and child molestation. Pedophilia is akin to merely 'being' gay, feeling attracted to what one should not. No one is condemned for how they feel.

The crime is acting on one's evil emotions. The crime is loss of self-control.

The crime is sexually molestating children, akin to acting homosexually (a crime at the same level as murder).

Fortunately, there is a Scriptural remedy for this. I learned it in a c-group and in reading a book Victory Over The Darkness. 2 Corinthians 10:5 take every thought captive to obey Christ. It is Christ saving you from yourself, at the first emotion, the first thought. Bring him into the fold of your inner life - if you are a true disciple of Christ.

 

[Randy Kluth]

What you said does not follow from the text since there is no innocence.


I've observed the feminization of our society has equated feelings/emotions with actions and facts. They are not equal!

"Being" gay is a reprehensible expression that falsely implies an innocent crime since there is no action, only existence (being). Perhaps the comparison is between pedophilia and child molestation. Pedophilia is akin to merely 'being' gay, feeling attracted to what one should not. No one is condemned for how they feel.

The crime is acting on one's evil emotions. The crime is loss of self-control.

The crime is sexually molestating children, akin to acting homosexually (a crime at the same level as murder).

Fortunately, there is a Scriptural remedy for this. I learned it in a c-group and in reading a book Victory Over The Darkness. 2 Corinthians 10:5 take every thought captive to obey Christ. It is Christ saving you from yourself, at the first emotion, the first thought. Bring him into the fold of your inner life - if you are a true disciple of Christ.

Some places I will not compromise, and one of those places is here. Homosexuality is not something you're born with. You're born in sin, but as you point out, it's the behavior that evidences sin. Just having sin in our heart, however, renders us guilty of sin because even our thoughts, in rebellion against God, are sin.

Sin implies rebellion against God. And if our minds rebel against our creation as a male or female, then we are not born that way--we are rebelling against God for making us a certain way.

But you, though born a sinner, are not born a homosexual. You're talking about our physical and mental makeup. And regardless of where our minds go, these things do not indicate a state of *being* homosexual. To *be* a homosexual is to choose to be that way. You aren't born one.

 

[Wrangler]

as you point out, it's the behavior that evidences sin.

To *be* a homosexual is to choose to be that way. You aren't born one.

I think we are saying the same. One may be born feeling attracted or tempted to one sin over another. However, it seems you are not recognizing the subtle abuse of language of the enemy.

Regardless of how one feels or when such emotions emerged (from birth or later), it is NOT the emotion but the act that is determinant (or choice to act, as you say).

 

[Behold]

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According to Psalm 58:3, some folks are born liars. Well; if some are born
liars, then I think it's very likely that some are born gay, lesbian, bi-sexual,
and/or with gender dysphoria.
_

And you also believe that some are born to be serial killers, sex offenders, and mountain climbers?

Get real.

"Science" has been trying to prove for over 50 yrs, that there is a "gay gene" that causes homosexuality.

No luck.
No such thing exists.
Keep pretending.

Gays do not reproduce.. .they RECRUIT.

And in 20 yrs, when all these babies.... adopted by gay parents are grown, and 99% of them are GAY, there will people who will say..>"well, its not caused, that just happened.........as all 99% of them were probably born that way or had a "gay gene" issue.....as it cant possibly be a leaned trait.... it can't possibly be something they were TAUGHT to DO that became their sexual LIFESTYLE...

 

[Wrangler]

as it cant possibly be a leaned trait.... it can't possibly be something they were TAUGHT to DO that became their sexual LIFESTYLE...

Where did the 1st homosexual learn it from?

 

[Randy Kluth]

I think we are saying the same. One may be born feeling attracted or tempted to one sin over another. However, it seems you are not recognizing the subtle abuse of language of the enemy.

Regardless of how one feels or when such emotions emerged (from birth or later), it is NOT the emotion but the act that is determinant (or choice to act, as you say).

I'm not having a language problem. Both the act and the thought are tainted with sin. That means we're born with rebellion, along with a variety of inclinations towards sin that are in us and in the world.

Perhaps there can be a proclivity towards being gay. But the point I wish to make is that one is not "born gay," which is a language issue, because it suggests to many, whether it does to you or not, that they cannot help being gay.

You may mean that these homosexual inclinations or temptations come with being born. Perhaps, but that isn't the point. We are not born *to be that way.* If we are, then being gay is God's fault. And that's absurd.

You're born male or female, unless you're a morphydite. And you're born with conflicts due to the *rebellion* you're born with. Being that it is rebellion, you're tempted to oppose what you're actually born with. Being born with the sin does not mean you're born a female in mind when you're male in body.

 

[Wrangler]

But the point I wish to make is that one is not "born gay," which is a language issue, because it suggests to many, whether it does to you or not, that they cannot help being gay.

We both realize it is a linguistic attempt to escape their guilt for sinning.

The absurdity is extrapolating ‘being born’ to escape the guilt for all sin. Why is this sexual sin excused but not other sin? There is no reason. It’s a pathway of the Adversary.

We are not born *to be that way.* If we are, then being gay is God's fault. And that's absurd.

Just another linguistic attempt to escape their guilt for sinning.

 

[Randy Kluth]

We both realize it is a linguistic attempt to escape their guilt for sinning.

The absurdity is extrapolating ‘being born’ to escape the guilt for all sin. Why is this sexual sin excused but not other sin? There is no reason. It’s a pathway of the Adversary.


Just another linguistic attempt to escape their guilt for sinning.

I think I understand your point, but "being born gay" is not something we seek to have atonement for. We're simply not born gay!

I hasten to say that should we choose to become gay, and repent later, we are certainly eligible to benefit from Christ's atonement. We can be forgiven, when we choose to follow Christ and repent of our old ways.

On the other hand, more to your point, we're born with a Sin Nature, and we do get atonement for that. Obviously, what I'm saying is that being born Gay and being born with a Sin Nature are not in the same category, since being born in sin does not mean one can be born gay.

As I said, at best we are born with a possible inclination towards being gay--perhaps inheriting a corrupt sin nature from a parent that chose to become gay? I do believe there is a spiritual inheritance as well as a biological inheritance. But that's another subject.

Having an inborn weakness towards homosexual influences is not being born gay. It indicates that we are weak towards the temptation, but are not that gay person.

Another example might be someone who is born with a high sex drive. He inherits this from physical genes, but the fallen spiritual nature also being inherited from flawed parents may determine the lack of balance in terms of sexual control. This could lead to fornication or to homosexuality.

At any rate, being born with these traits does not mean one is born to be a fornicator or a homosexual--it just means they are born with a weakness they have to fight, if they are to be and act a Christian. God certainly understands how much duress someone is under, and may apply mercy as He wills.

I do believe what you're trying to say is that we were born "sinners." And I would agree with that. But I think we're talking about how God intended us to be born, even as sinners. So yes, some of this is a semantics problem. Take care.

 

[Gottservant]

The answer to the OP question is the same as the answer to the question "can someone be born dead?" - the answer is "yes".

 

[dhh712]

No one is condemned for how they feel.

But Jesus says that anyone who has anger toward his brother commits murder, just as anyone who feels lust toward another commits adultery. It appears to me from what He says there that feelings are condemned.

I really do feel that homosexuals can be born with a desire for same-sex attraction--all our faculties have become corrupted. This does not mean that God created them this way; it is rather a result of the fallen state of mankind and all of nature. Some people are born with natural tendencies to kill and steal and lust, etc. etc. etc. Same-sex attraction is just one of the many things fallen man now has naturally because of his sin nature (and not naturally in the sense of when God created man before the Fall).

And just the same as those feelings to murder and lust after others, just so is the same-sex attraction feelings--these things must be repented of in feeling and in thought just as our anger towards others needs to be repented of. That is why when I heard of a pastor in a sister denomination say that he believed God is alright with homosexuals (He does not consider it sin to be that way) as long as they do not engage in the act that results from same-sex attraction, I understand this pastor to be speaking with the voice of Satan as it contradicts Scripture.

 

[Behold]

Where did the 1st homosexual learn it from?

The Devil.

Isn't that obvious, ?

See, the Devil's nature is LUST, in all forms, as he's the father of lies, lust, ect.

"Sin" is the Devil's nature, exactly as RIGHTEOUSNESS is God's Nature.

God is the 'HOLY Spirit".

Satan is the 'UN-Holy Spirit".

So, if your bible says...>"God is Spirit", then its not making the very necessary distinction between the Unholy Spirit and the Holy Spirit.
Get rid of any bible that does not say...."God is A Spirit".
A dumpster is worthy of that book.

Lucifer/Satan's sexuality is "perversion", so when you find someone with a perverted sexuality as a LIFESTYLE (homosexual) you are dealing with a level of twisted demonic sexual depravity that is the closest to the Devil's actual sexuality.

There is your answer.

 

[ByGraceThroughFaith]

I really do feel that homosexuals can be born with a desire for same-sex attraction--all our faculties have become corrupted.

then the Holy Bible is WRONG! If what you say is correct, homosexuality CANNOT be a SIN!"

Are people born pedophiles?

Modern thinking is AGAINST the very clear Teachings of God's Infallible Word!