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Can SCOTUS overturn gay marriage next?

Discussion in 'Ethics & Morality Forum' started by Lifelong_sinner, May 5, 2022.

  1. theefaith

    theefaith Well-Known Member

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    that’s the problem with Luther
    He wanted to get rid of the pope and instead he created Millions of Protestant popes, every one thru pride is pope!

    also the Vatican 2 sect is not the church founded by Christ on Peter and the holy apostles
     
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    theefaith Well-Known Member

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    not used to produce at least decent movies on catholic and biblical subjects even epics like Heston in the “Ten Commandments”

    I loved the voice of Cecil b. Demile

    …and God forms prophets in the burning sands of the desert….
     
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    Marvelloustime Well-Known Member

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    Letter already written and mailed off. Let’s hope you get the job brother.
     
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  4. amigo de christo

    amigo de christo Well-Known Member

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    Anyone who knows me , KNOWS i dont want that job . But someone has to do something cause this entire mess
    of falsehoods has once again spread its web over the entire realm of christendom . I suggest folks learn those bibles
    and find out just who or what we have been following . cause i see many following things so blasphemous
    and doing things not even pagans would dare to do . its bad . Real bad . Time to return to bibles and learn THAT JESUS
    and learn The doctrine of the true apostles which they left us IN said BIBLE .
     
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    amigo de christo Well-Known Member

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    I dont think thee faith is in support . But i say its time to folks to return to bibles and fast too , cause time is running out
    and the delusion which brings the lie is growing . A delusion so strong they even believe they do the Will of GOD
    and will still believe they do even when true lambs are cast out of society , rounded up and even killed .
    The strong delusion is sent for one reason alone . THEY rejected the love of the truth
    and the sentence by GOD for all who go under it is damnation . Pual spoke , he wrote of this . This ol world
    dont have the time most folks thinks it Does . IT truly , i say truly DONT .
     
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  6. amigo de christo

    amigo de christo Well-Known Member

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    Go to and behold what is and what is being done within the so called realm of Christendom .
    The peoples have turned the glory of God into a concept so blasphemous .
    And who do we think started this all inclusive we are one religoin . Those within christendom .
    THUS i would say YE HAVE DONE worse then even the surrounding nations .
     
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    Wrangler Well-Known Member

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    In terms of a federal mandate, yes. It is properly left up to the States to decide pursuant to the 10A.

    Implied premise rejected. Stop trying to use government to force others to approve the decadent lifestyle in this Christian country.

    Are you serious? Let me ask you this; do you think God wants us to live a life in rebellion to his will?
     
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  8. amigo de christo

    amigo de christo Well-Known Member

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    I dont know much about ol luther . But i do know calvin was bad news . He did worse than even the RCC on this ground .
    cause he did speak truth against the CC , yet the man turned into the same state religion merged led religion as did the RCC .
    And you know what happens when that occurs . ITS CONVERT or die . That whole era was one big blood bath .
    IN large you had the protestant trying to set up their own earthly kingdom within politics and they killed
    just like the CC killed who had its entire wordly kingdom set up . Both sides , IN LARGE were lost .
    Sure their were some true ones who had left the RCC , but they were few .
    Imagine two sisters . Butcher and the butchers daughter . Both were in it for total power and control
    and both put many souls to death all over a state religoin , an earthen kingdom and they knew nothing
    about the simpicity of Christ . And here we go again .
    ONLY NOW the HARLOT cries for unity amongst her wayward daughters and has decieved them into
    entering into her covenant of death . FOR A ONE WORLD RELIGOIN .
    ANY GUESSES on what will happen , in time , to those who refused and refuse to enter into that covenant .
    THE SAME BLOOD SHED that happened so long ago during the reformation .
    Blood touches blood and the peoples have no idea who or what they are serving .
    A leader awaits and is in waiting and kings are merging as are all religions
    and soon this world will see the greatest bloodshed it ever has . POWER and CONTROL
    being sold us peace and safety . What a guise has clouded the eyes of christendom
    and the children are as blind beggers who say WE SEE , WE SEE and therefore their sin remains .
    They cannot see they have been sold a rotted bill of goods . ALL they see is the promise of this unity
    and what their minds envision will bring them world peace . NO , IT WONT . ONLY massive bloodshed is coming
    And the lost children of all tribes of all religoins will believe they do this love gods will , when those who did not conform
    are siezed , arrested and killed . MARK THOSE WORDS WELL cause that is where this whole facade is leading all right too .
    THEY have no idea the dragon is their god and they do its will to build and prepare both a mindset , a peoples and a world system
    which shall serve the very beast . Many now follow the dragon and yet believe its GOD . Talk about a deception .
    But then the devil is very clever and full of wisdom and the children who sat under men who did its will
    And who transformed the image of God into what serves the dragon , HAVE NO IDEA what has happened .
    Cause they wont submit to GOD , they had rather heed men who twist things .
     
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    burden of proof is on you. Two Questions easily recite you.

    1. where does Jesus demand we force unbelievers to live the life we choose?

    2. where is the kingdom of god? In the secular states or is it the collection of Christians?
     
  10. theefaith

    theefaith Well-Known Member

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    Jesus Christ founded the new covenant church for the salvation of all men! (Jn 1:16-17) Christ is the truth! (Jn 14:6) Christ and his church are one!
    (Acts 9;4 eph 5:32)
    The church is the pillar of truth
    (1 Tim 3:15) that must teach all men (Matt 28:19) without error guided by the Holy Spirit
    (Jn 16:13) Thru the grace of God in the sanctification of souls applied in the seven sacraments!

    Sacramental life: Jn 1:16 And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace. Jn 10:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

    Truth must be revealed by God, and in its fullness in the sacred deposit of faith by Christ to his church! Eph 4:5 Jude 1:3 and must be taught by the church, or proposed for our belief by the apostles!
    Matt 28:19-20 Lk 1:4 Jn 20:21 acts 8:31 Rom 1:5 col 2:7 1 Tim 3:15
    matt 18:17

    Christ and His church are one! acts 9:4 Acts 5:32 Jn 15:1-5

    Truth is immutable! Cannot change!

    And same truths revealed by Christ and taught by the church are always believed and taught from the beginning when Christ taught his church in person! Jude 1:3 the faith once delivered to the saints or the deposit of faith eph 4:5 one faith!


    Truth must be revealed by God thru Christ to His church (the apostles Jude 1:3) then must be proposed by the church, (Matt 28:19 gal 3:23) without error by the Holy Spirit! (Jn 16:13)

    The evidence of true faith is humble subjection and obedience to Christ & His holy church!

    The rule of faith for Christians is Jesus Christ Jn 14:6 and His church! Matt 18:17 acts 2:42 1 Tim 3:15

    True Christians cannot listen to the errors of excommunicated heretics, but we listen faithfully to Christ, in the bosom of holy mother church, the only ark of salvation!
    1 pet 3:20-21 matt 18:17 matt 16:18-19 matt 28:19-20 Jn 16:13 Jn 20:21-23

    Truth must be revealed by God thru Christ to His church (the apostles Jude 1:3) then must be proposed by the church, (Matt 28:19 gal 3:23) without error by the Holy Spirit! (Jn 16:13)

    Christ and His church are one! (Acts 9:4 eph 5:31 Jn 15:1-5)

    Rejection of the one true church or its teaching is rejection of Christ and God!

    Christ and His church are one! Acts 9:4 eph 5:32 Jn 8:12 & Matt 5:14



    God does not reveal His truth in a vacuum!

    God does not set His true adrift on a sea of spiritual anarchy!

    God sets His truth in His church, in the possession of His apostles to safeguard, to ensure it is not added to, or taken away from, or changed in any way!

    And to teach the same truth to all nations and all ages!

    Verified by scripture:

    Matthew 24:35
    Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

    Matt 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost!

    Jude 1:3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints!

    2 Thessalonians 2:15
    Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.

    2 Timothy 3:16
    All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness!
    (all scripture not 66 books alone)

    Must be instructed in the faith:

    Lk 1:4 That thou mightest know the certainty of those things, wherein thou hast been instructed.

    Matt 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations…

    Jn 29:21-23 as the father sent me, so I send you. (Same mission, power, and authority to teach all nations)

    Lk 10:16 He who hears you, (His apostles) hear me.

    Jn 13:20 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that receiveth whomsoever I send receiveth me; and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me.

    Jn 8:32 You (the apostles) shall know the truth; and the truth shall make you free.

    Jn 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
    (His apostles)


    The whole purpose for the church of Jesus Christ is to teach all nations the truths revealed by Christ and the salvation of souls!
     
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    Once again you use truths to justify a lie .
    He who hears YOU does indeed hear GOD as HE told the desciples .
    BUT THEY preached the TRUTH . THE CC DOES NOT but rather teaches only some truths and many lies .
    He who hears TRUTH hears GOD . And the CC aint preaching all TRUTH but rather only some truths
    and even the truths they do speak they use to justify their own lies .
    No marvel many other denominations do this very same thing . THUS the solution is
    HOW do we know we are indeed following CHRIST . cause every denomination knows that men can lie
    but the problem is they can never see when their own leaders DO LIE . That my friend is deadly and super dangerous .
    Ye shall KNOW the TRUTH and the TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE .
    But when your truth cometh of men who have long led folks astray , TIME TO RELAIZE to RECOGNIZE and to KNOW
    that means its deadly .
    The emergent church , fALSE as it is , could preach some truths . IT TOO spoke against the dangers of the false prosperity gospel
    YET lead its followers into only more darkness .
    The same with the liberal churches , same with many conservative ones too , same with the CC .
    You know what they all have in common . A church founded on the doctrines of men
    tied into an earthly hope , an earthly kingdom , and always able to speak some truths
    YET never know or knew THE TRUTH nor the AUTHOR Of said TRUTH .
    TIME to open bibles . TIME To learn . IF you wanna know if what i say is false or true
    dont trust in men , rather GO to the the orginal source itself . TO the bible and thus to the GOD WHO INSPIRED said bible .
    STOP reading it through the lens of the CC , stop reading it through the lens of the protestant realm
    JUST READ IT FOR YOURSELF . JUST READ IT FOR YOURSELF .
     
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    ok I read 1 cor 11:23 For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, that the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread:

    24 And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me.

    also Jn 6

    Some agree it’s is the real physical body and blood of Christ, some say spiritual, some say figurative

    how do we find the truth!
     
  13. amigo de christo

    amigo de christo Well-Known Member

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    He also says We are that bread , we are that body . Its real simple . Just do the commuion in remembrance of what CHRIST DID for us
    and leave the squabbbling to others .
     
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    Not an answer to my question. I understand your fear and trepidation in answering a question from the proper beginning and gets right to the heart of the matter.

    I'll be happy to answer your 2 questions, once you answer mine, which I asked first. :)
     
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    I did answer your question several time. But you don’t have to worry about answering mine. I already know how you develop your theology. It’s typical alt right conservative theology that has long been rejected by the bulk of biblical scholars. It’s a theological position centered around theocracy…. And again, I clearly answered your questions despite it being a really weak question thst you thought was some kind of aha moment counter argument. The fact you missed that, and brought it back up os honestly what let me know not to waste any more breath with you.
     
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    Oh? Where is this answer? The yes or no question is do you think God wants us to live a life in rebellion to his will? As I recall, you replied with 2 questions of your own but ignored mine. And your last post resorted to personal attacks.

    This shows you are a tough talking coward, afraid of the truth. Rather than have the courage to examine your own set of beliefs, all you can do is double down on attacking and criticizing the divine order, the word of God and the perfect law.
     
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    theefaith Well-Known Member

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    offer the sacrifice?

    who’s going to be our priest?
     
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    Read the Constitution .....It appears you are well behind in your reading
     
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    Repeatedly I said god wants us to love his will. But he gives us a choice. We get a choice. I then further proved my point with a verse that is anti theocracy.

    so now that I answered yours again, how about mine?

    where do you see biblical authority for Christian’s to enforce our will on others?

    wjere do you see that any nation on earth is part of gods kingdom as opposed to the body?
     
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    Friend, you are side stepping. My question was not about emotions but actions.

    In the Bible, love is not an emotion but action. Loving God's will mean action, doing his will. Do you think God wants us to live (an action) a life in rebellion to his will? (It is a simple question. And one does not even have to 100's of science books and have a degree in science to answer it.)

    Once you answer this question, I'll be happy to answer your questions. I look forward to our ongoing exchange.
     
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