Canada, the new F35 fighter and Trump

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Scott Downey

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Canada should just go ahead with the prior already committed plans.

As in a month, they may not have fighters to defend the country, mentioned in the report.
Like who is going to attack Canada? But still.

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The Case For F-35s​

Simply put, there are no real fifth-generation alternatives for Western or partner militaries, to the F-35. While there are plenty of choices for fourth-generation jets, and upgraded versions known as 4.5 generation aircraft, all of the eggs for the most advanced generation of fighter aircraft are in the F-35 basket.


"There's no better military option," Blondin said.

Canada is expected to receive its first deliveries of F-35s next year but will have poured significant investment into putting the vast infrastructure in place in time for their arrival.

There are a host of other problems that Canada would court if it pulled out of the deal, from making it harder to work seamlessly with its allies to risking the wrath of Trump.

There is a pressing need for Canada to replace its moribund CF-18 fleet that cannot wait, experts say. Canada's Hornet aircraft have "been desperately in need of replacement for more than a decade," said Justin Bronk, a research fellow for airpower and military technology at the U.K.-based Royal United Services Institute (RUSI) think tank.

"The Canadian fighter force can't wait for another fighter procurement process," Bronk told Newsweek. "They just can't wait."


Other F-35 nations operating the jets in Europe have reassured one another they are still committed to the fifth-generation fighter jet, a central European official involved in defense planning told Newsweek.

Dutch Defense Minister Ruben Brekelmans said in March it was in the "interest of all" for the F-35 to succeed, while British Armed Forces Minister Luke Pollard insisted the U.K. "maintains the freedom of action to operate the F-35 Lightning at a time and place of our choosing."

The Pentagon had not signaled any intention that the U.S. would restrict the use of partner nations' F-35s, the central European official said.

The Case Against F-35s​

One school of thought suggests that Canada could supplement a handful of F-35s with a raft of fourth-generation fighters, like the Eurofighter Typhoon or French-made Rafale.

French President Emmanuel Macron appeared to allude to this in remarks earlier this year. "Those who buy the F-35, we must offer them the Rafale," he said.


Some analysts say a handful of F-35s could do enough to enhance a fleet of less advanced aircraft. Carney has signaled that Canada is on the hook for 16 of the 88 F-35s.

But fifth-generation jets are really needed to tackle the most sophisticated air defense systems wielded by an enemy, said Andrew Curtis, a retired air commodore in the U.K.'s Royal Air Force (RAF)—something a Rafale or a Typhoon couldn't do nearly as well.

"Militarily, the last thing you want to be doing these days is having mixed fleets," Curtis told Newsweek. "If Canada is committed to buying 16, the chances are they'll buy all 88."

Operating just a few F-35s—rather than the full 88—would mean a massive hike in how expensive each jet is for Canada, which would still have to put in place all of the infrastructure, Bronk added. Ottawa would then have to work out how to make sure supply chains, logistics and training for entirely different types of aircraft are there, too, Bronk said.


"I suspect what they will find is that there are no good alternatives to proceeding with the F-35 procurement as planned, and that the fighter force is just unable to wait," Bronk said.

If Canada axed the majority of the on-order F-35s, it would still take the better part of a decade to build an operational fleet made up of different jets, like Sweden's Gripen, Blondin said.

Referring to canceling much of the F-35 order, Blondin added: "If you do this, you better have something else to fly with or to defend your country, because, next month, you may not have an airplane to do it."

Current and former officials, as well as industry sources, say doubts over the F-35 are generating more interest in nascent, European-led sixth-generation fighter jet programs.

There are plans to build several different sixth-generation fighters, which could slowly come into service in the mid-2030s. The U.S. has its Next Generation Air Dominance program, with its F-47 manned fighter jet, but the U.K., Italy and Japan are jointly working on the Global Combat Air Program, or GCAP, initiative currently expected to bear fruit in 2035. France, Spain and Germany are working on a separate program, although it is further behind than GCAP.


The central European official said they expected more countries to want to have a look-in at the development of next-generation aircraft, and particularly to have their domestic industry contribute to sixth-generation programs.

"Could Canada, in its desire to diversify its economy [and] diversify its defense, get onboard a six-generation program?" Blondin said.

The GCAP program, for one, has had significant interest from across the world and would not necessarily exclude late entrants to the project, but there is an acknowledgment that the more parties involved, the slower the progress will be.

It's understood the workload has already been divvied up, meaning while it's not impossible for new countries to join GCAP, it is more likely nations coming in later would be involved in other parts of sixth-generation technology, such as drones, rather than the jet itself.


But the French, German and Spanish program to develop a sixth-gen fighter and drones to go with it, known as FCAS, is likely more interesting to Canada for the time being, said Blondin.

"Can we get our industry to work into companion drones; can we get our industry involved in all of this?" Blondin added. "This is probably where Canada needs to go."
 

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As we seen Trump say, that Canada should become another State of the USA !

Why ? did Trump mention such a thing ? well clearly Canada does not exist as a Military force, because it's been dominated by Criminal Socialist, who have Sold true Canadians out ! and down the drain ! for how many years now !

They must have a great Media Propaganda system in Canada, that most people swallow all that criminal Socialist Partys play on stupid gutless idiot fools !
Australia is the same ilk of total moronic gutless stupid moronic fools ! They swallow what the Media say as their god !

So Trump comes out and says the 51 State ? and most people think WTF ! well Trump knows much more of what has been truly going on, that the Media will bother to tell the truth about ! for the media do not like the Truth in fact !

Canada is a dumping ground !
So was the USA under the Socialist criminals actions in fact !
Australia is a dumping ground as well for Islamic terrorist and no hoppers, that's who the Socialist love in fact !

They have been full on working to undermine the Nations People and Culture, outright bagging all of the past generations in fact ! and offering up a New normal ? that is pathetic good for nothing ! something that could never of made a Nation in the first place in fact !
A Nation of Slobs !
Slob building ! equal slobs !
New age man ! a boy man ! a woman who is something they do not promote the fact of, but for a token claim trendy dribble, playing up a Strong woman ? what is this angle tho really ? I see it peddled, She was a strong woman !
What is a strong woman ? a dictator type of dominating type that is idolised, nowadays ? on many TV shows ! like history of some ones forebears ? you see a woman of substance promoted as a Strong woman ? never a loving family woman ? not ever a Strong man ? he was a strong man or such truly at at all ! not that I give a rats who they were. but in regards to brainwashing workings of shows !

I had a mates 17yo daughter dictate to me that she was a strong woman ! inderpendant and does not need a man ! I just thought so what ! that is not a Virtue in fact ! Now if she said to me, that she wanted to have a faimly and put that above all ? I would be impressed, why ? because that is where a woman is truly saluted ! as a woman. no one could bag that ever ! not even the Devil himself ! devoted to rasing children with her man the best she can. that's fortitude it's self ! not just a stupid idiot boast of ignorance of being strong headed dimwit Nazi Communist Socialist type woman ! yes they were strong in the head brainwashed dupes in fact !
Just as we see nowadays being promoted !
Boy men who look to the Government for guidance, never Christ Jesus, because the Government do not promote Christ Jesus ever in fact ! because they want you as their Slaves !
 
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What do they call boy men now ? a new age guy ! or Metro sexual !

They claim to be more evolved !

That's how they see themselves in fact ! could they serve a woman and family ? No ! because they are not worthy of a Man in fact. they are to up themselves in fact, good old number one comes first, himself ! oh he playes the part nice guy ! but lacks Virtue and is a sook, his feeling for himself are top of the list.
Do not upset him, or Out comes the Malice !

Do schools teach about Malice ? that such is the lowest of the Low ! that only gutles good for nothing cowards take on. No it's promoted by Socialist in fact !
 

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RCAF is in rough shape, unfit for today
Aging aircraft, it is like you driving an old car, unreliable, not capable to defend.


Despite its strong capabilities, the CF-18 fleet is aging and facing increasing challenges. Acquired in the 1980s, these aircraft are now well past their prime. The prolonged service life of the CF-18s has led to higher maintenance costs and reduced reliability. Additionally, the jets' combat relevance is in decline, with outdated avionics and reduced survivability against modern air defenses.

Canada's defense commitments, both domestically and internationally, necessitate a modern and capable fighter fleet. Domestically, the CF-18s are vital for protecting Canadian airspace and supporting NORAD. With threats like Russia increasing its air activity and pushing further into the Arctic, Canada needs to maintain its defensive posture. Internationally, the CF-18's diminished combat effectiveness threatens Canada's ability to contribute meaningfully to NATO missions and collective defense should the need arise.