Catholic priest says Democrats are going to hell — and Texas bishop backs him up

  • Welcome to Christian Forums, a Christian Forum that recognizes that all Christians are a work in progress.

    You will need to register to be able to join in fellowship with Christians all over the world.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

Giuliano

Well-Known Member
Aug 4, 2019
5,978
3,676
113
Carlisle
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
  • Like
Reactions: Nancy

Giuliano

Well-Known Member
Aug 4, 2019
5,978
3,676
113
Carlisle
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
I'm sure they would know right?
Too bad for that priest that his own bishop thought his statement was completely inappropriate. Maybe he should consider moving to Texas?

Wisconsin bishop says 'both sides' urge response to priest's 'divisive' video - TheCatholicSpirit.com

The bishop of La Crosse, Wisconsin, said Sept. 9 that he has privately begun “applying Gospel principles” to correct a pastor who in a video says Catholics who are Democrats must “repent” of their support for the party or “face the fires of hell.”

“Canon law indicates that before penalties are imposed, we need to ensure that fraternal correction, rebuke or other means of pastoral solicitude will not be sufficient to repair the scandal,” Bishop William P. Callahan said in a statement about Father James Altman, pastor of St. James the Less Parish in La Crosse, and his video.
If I was his bishop, I'd order him to study the list of mortal sins.
 

Brakelite

Well-Known Member
Feb 6, 2020
8,496
6,368
113
Melbourne
brakelite.wordpress.com
Faith
Christian
Country
Australia
Too bad for that priest that his own bishop thought his statement was completely inappropriate. Maybe he should consider moving to Texas?

Wisconsin bishop says 'both sides' urge response to priest's 'divisive' video - TheCatholicSpirit.com

The bishop of La Crosse, Wisconsin, said Sept. 9 that he has privately begun “applying Gospel principles” to correct a pastor who in a video says Catholics who are Democrats must “repent” of their support for the party or “face the fires of hell.”

“Canon law indicates that before penalties are imposed, we need to ensure that fraternal correction, rebuke or other means of pastoral solicitude will not be sufficient to repair the scandal,” Bishop William P. Callahan said in a statement about Father James Altman, pastor of St. James the Less Parish in La Crosse, and his video.
If I was his bishop, I'd order him to study the list of mortal sins.
Not sure why being a member of a different gang will help any either. The bloods are just as bad as the crips. They just hide it better under a guise of religious zealotry.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Giuliano

Ronald Nolette

Well-Known Member
Aug 24, 2020
12,639
3,746
113
69
South Carolina
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
A Wisconsin priest who condemned Catholic Democrats has the support of a Texas bishop.

Catholic priest says Democrats are going to hell — and Texas bishop backs him up

Even though I am not Catholic as sure as I am sitting here I totally agree with the priest.

Of course soemone can be Democrat and still go to heaven!

OUr salvation is based on our trust in teh death resurrection of Jesus for all our sin debt. Period! It does not mean that we have to be theologically perfect.

I don't see why anyone who calls on the name of the Lord as Savior would vote for nearly all Democrats but that makes them disobedient children, but Children nonetheless if they trust Christ for their salvation.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Giuliano

Giuliano

Well-Known Member
Aug 4, 2019
5,978
3,676
113
Carlisle
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Nope. Dems loving baby murder
One has to wonder why Trump's attorney, Michael Cohen, paid a woman to have an abortion. It's true another Republican bigwig said it was his baby that was aborted; but then why would Cohen be paying her hush money to have an abortion? Seems to me Republicans say they're against abortion until they want one themselves.

I also wonder why the Republican-dominated Supreme Court voted to say corporations are "persons" entitled to free speech but seem unable to reach the conclusion the unborn are "persons" with the "right to life" under our Constitution.
 

Enoch111

Well-Known Member
May 27, 2018
17,688
15,996
113
Alberta
Faith
Christian
Country
Canada
Of course someone can be Democrat and still go to heaven!
Not very likely. In fact out of the question.

Anyone who wholeheartedly accepts the Democratic agenda has opted for (1) a steady stream of lies, (2) hatred for non-Democrats, as well as their country and Constitution, (3) lawlessness and (4) anarchy. And no genuine Christian would do that, since that is Satanic, and Satanist ideas leads to Hell.

Satan's agenda is to (1) steal, (2) kill and (3) destroy, and the Democratic agenda is exactly the same. (1) Steal the elections, (2) kill unborn babies by the thousands , and (3) destroy America by any and all means.
 

Prayer Warrior

Well-Known Member
Sep 20, 2018
5,789
5,776
113
U.S.A.
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
One has to wonder why Trump's attorney, Michael Cohen, paid a woman to have an abortion. It's true another Republican bigwig said it was his baby that was aborted; but then why would Cohen be paying her hush money to have an abortion? Seems to me Republicans say they're against abortion until they want one themselves.

I also wonder why the Republican-dominated Supreme Court voted to say corporations are "persons" entitled to free speech but seem unable to reach the conclusion the unborn are "persons" with the "right to life" under our Constitution.
Some people just can’t stay on topic. You mention the Democrats’ support of abortion, and somebody has to repeat gossip about Trump. :rolleyes:
 

Giuliano

Well-Known Member
Aug 4, 2019
5,978
3,676
113
Carlisle
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Anyone who wholeheartedly accepts the Democratic agenda has opted for (1) a steady stream of lies, (2) hatred for non-Democrats, as well as their country and Constitution, (3) lawlessness and (4) anarchy. And no genuine Christian would do that, since that is Satanic, and Satanist ideas leads to Hell.
We could also say we see lies, hate, lawlessness and anarchy coming from the White House. It's amazing to me how many times Trump has tried to do unlawful things only to be slapped down by the courts.

Lies? Talking about how Democrats lie is really amusing when you can see Trump is the biggest liar in the White House -- and I thought Nixon and Clinton were bad. We now have Trump on tape admitting he lied about coronavirus.

Hate? I see a lot of that coming from you. I've also seen you advocate Trump do unconstitutional things. Maybe that makes you satanic? I didn't say it, you did. Careful how you judge others. . . .

Matthew 12:37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.
 

Ronald Nolette

Well-Known Member
Aug 24, 2020
12,639
3,746
113
69
South Carolina
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Nope. Dems loving baby murder

Well you wil not find followers of jesus supporting abortion (at least the super majority of them). I make a very sharp distinction between people who go to church and are just nominally Christians and those who have truly been born again.
 

Ronald Nolette

Well-Known Member
Aug 24, 2020
12,639
3,746
113
69
South Carolina
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Not very likely. In fact out of the question.

Anyone who wholeheartedly accepts the Democratic agenda has opted for (1) a steady stream of lies, (2) hatred for non-Democrats, as well as their country and Constitution, (3) lawlessness and (4) anarchy. And no genuine Christian would do that, since that is Satanic, and Satanist ideas leads to Hell.

Satan's agenda is to (1) steal, (2) kill and (3) destroy, and the Democratic agenda is exactly the same. (1) Steal the elections, (2) kill unborn babies by the thousands , and (3) destroy America by any and all means.

People can be part of a political party and not know the machinations that go on behind the scenes or even pay attention to what goes on in the media. Christians shouldn't do any of what you listed of course, but if one does that just means they are a disobedient child of God in those particular areas like we are disobedient in our areas. but I tend to agree fervent democrats tend not to wish to follow Jesus.

But understand this very clearly. all the things that you listed are just as much of people and our sin natures as being promoted by Satan and his demons.

these are not Satans agenda by any stretch. these are things that Satan uses to actually accomplish his agenda, which is to keep people from hearing the gospel and possible being saved. But God will save those whom He will and Satan cannot stop it.
 

Enoch111

Well-Known Member
May 27, 2018
17,688
15,996
113
Alberta
Faith
Christian
Country
Canada
Well you will not find followers of Jesus supporting abortion...
And there you have it. This one criterion separates the sheep from the goats (and wolves). Since the Democratic party is wholeheartedly committed to abortions and Planned Parenthood, that is all that is needed for Christians to shun this evil party and its evil plans. And yet we have many Catholics supporting the Democrats, even though the RCC is totally against abortion.
 
Last edited:

historyb

Well-Known Member
Mar 10, 2011
2,990
2,701
113
52
in a house
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Not very likely. In fact out of the question.

Anyone who wholeheartedly accepts the Democratic agenda has opted for (1) a steady stream of lies, (2) hatred for non-Democrats, as well as their country and Constitution, (3) lawlessness and (4) anarchy. And no genuine Christian would do that, since that is Satanic, and Satanist ideas leads to Hell.

Satan's agenda is to (1) steal, (2) kill and (3) destroy, and the Democratic agenda is exactly the same. (1) Steal the elections, (2) kill unborn babies by the thousands , and (3) destroy America by any and all means.

Exactly, 'nuff said
 
  • Like
Reactions: Reggie Belafonte

Ronald Nolette

Well-Known Member
Aug 24, 2020
12,639
3,746
113
69
South Carolina
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
And there you have it. This one criterion separates the sheep from the goats (and wolves). Since the Democratic party is wholeheartedly committed to abortions and Planned Parenthood, that is all that is needed for Christians to shun this evil party and its evil plans. And yet we have many Catholics supporting the Democrats, even though the RCC is totally against abortion.

Well remember this, just because someone attends a sect of Christendom, that does not make them a Christian anymore than walking into a McDonalds makes you a Big Mac! Church affiliation or attendance does not one a Christian make.
 

Reggie Belafonte

Well-Known Member
Mar 16, 2018
5,857
2,918
113
63
Brisbane
Faith
Christian
Country
Australia
Will the Catholic Church ever learn from its past mistakes? This reminds me of what the Catholic Church did in Nazi Germany.
Yes many a RC Priest were killed by the Nazis because they must of done the wrong thing by the Socialist Leader.
When one truly understands the workings of Socialism you will find out that it becomes god remember.

All Socialist Leaders want to be idolised as a god, fact is that all who are under them have to worship them, you seen with Obama no one challenged the moron, the media let him go. I wonder why ? they could of attacked him like they do with Trump and if they did boy the dirt they could of come up with is huge, not to mention the people who were killed who took Obama on, 2 were killed the day after they won a case against him, not to mention they were hushed down reported by the Media when they should of been front page news.

Federal Judge John Roll was shot dead after ruling against Obama in 2011.

2016 USA Supreme court justice Antonin Scalia was found dead, with a pillow over his face, also after ruling against Obama. that's how Socialist keep Judges in line.

Typical Socialism just like the Nazis, if they see one as a threat your dead. the only thing holding the Socialist back of becoming like Hitler is the opposition Party. the Democrats want it all their own way, in fact they are total bigots ! one is not to question such morons or you are dealing with malice.

The Socialist nearly had the Republican's in their pocket and along comes Trump and then we see a media and Democrat Party go into spastic mode, trying to slander him 24/7

We in Australia nearly had the major Right wing party change it's spots, under M Turnbull who is a filthy wealthy NWO Socialist grub, he nearly destroyed the Party, but the Media hush that all up. life long party members were jumping ship in shock as to his strangle hold over the party. not to mention when he got kicked out and then he attacked the Party like the deranged dictating brat he truly is. if you bother to look into his whole history he was a total bastard who ripped people off, yet the lefty's loved the moron, a person who actually shafts the true working class.
 

Giuliano

Well-Known Member
Aug 4, 2019
5,978
3,676
113
Carlisle
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Yes many a RC Priest were killed by the Nazis because they must of done the wrong thing by the Socialist Leader.
That came after the Nazis stabbed the Catholics in the back. When they wanted support from the Catholic Church, they sang a different tune and seduced the Catholics. Betrayal followed after the Nazis felt they didn't need them anymore.

I was referring to how the Vatican and the Nazi regime reached an agreement, and part of that agreement was that every bishop had to take an oath of loyalty to the Reich.

Reichskonkordat - Wikipedia

Article 16 Before taking possession of their diocese, the bishops shall take an oath of loyalty either between the hands of the Reichsstatthalter in the state (Land) in question or between those of the president of the Reich, the formula of which shall be the following: "Before God and on the Holy Gospel I swear and promise, as becomes a bishop, loyalty to the German Reich and to the Land of (name of Land). I swear and promise to respect the government established according to the constitution and to cause the clergy of my diocese to respect it. In due solicitude for the welfare and the interests of the German Reich, I will endeavor, while performing the spiritual office bestowed upon me, to prevent anything which might threaten to be detrimental to it."
A big motive for the Catholics is that they wanted money from the government for their schools. It sounds like today when religious schools go begging to the government for money. It looks like socialism to me when the government is paying for religion. I think it's dangerous; and I think I see both parties in the US trying to buy religious leaders. Both parties had Catholics speaking at their conventions. Trump got a bishop, but Biden had to make do with only a priest.​
 

Reggie Belafonte

Well-Known Member
Mar 16, 2018
5,857
2,918
113
63
Brisbane
Faith
Christian
Country
Australia
That came after the Nazis stabbed the Catholics in the back. When they wanted support from the Catholic Church, they sang a different tune and seduced the Catholics. Betrayal followed after the Nazis felt they didn't need them anymore.

I was referring to how the Vatican and the Nazi regime reached an agreement, and part of that agreement was that every bishop had to take an oath of loyalty to the Reich.

Reichskonkordat - Wikipedia

Article 16 Before taking possession of their diocese, the bishops shall take an oath of loyalty either between the hands of the Reichsstatthalter in the state (Land) in question or between those of the president of the Reich, the formula of which shall be the following: "Before God and on the Holy Gospel I swear and promise, as becomes a bishop, loyalty to the German Reich and to the Land of (name of Land). I swear and promise to respect the government established according to the constitution and to cause the clergy of my diocese to respect it. In due solicitude for the welfare and the interests of the German Reich, I will endeavor, while performing the spiritual office bestowed upon me, to prevent anything which might threaten to be detrimental to it."
A big motive for the Catholics is that they wanted money from the government for their schools. It sounds like today when religious schools go begging to the government for money. It looks like socialism to me when the government is paying for religion. I think it's dangerous; and I think I see both parties in the US trying to buy religious leaders. Both parties had Catholics speaking at their conventions. Trump got a bishop, but Biden had to make do with only a priest.​
I believe that within every organisation there are good and the bad, the RC has it's bad mob always struggling to take control within history proves. it's the same with anything, it's like a cancer, everyone has it only a healthy body keeps such at bay.

When a totally new type of Government comes in, it's only natural that their be agreements as such, concordance. one would be stupid not to. I do not remember how it goes with Communism, mainly it's that they totally reject any regard to Christians. some type of formality would be reached I am sure in regards to some things as well. it's all got to do with legality. only the uneducated in ignorance would claim that the RCC was doing wrong in trying to service their faithful in Germany, if they did not do as such they would be guilty of abandoning the faithful in fact.

What are you saying that the Christian schools should have no funding at all ?

As for the RC schools in Australia or any religious schools the people have every right that government gives money as it does to any school for the children, the religious schools parents only top what's given themselves, I think it works out saving the tax payer in some regards over all. but some schools do look to be shady as to funding getting way more than they should, with deals, especially with Islamic schools or Jewish as it's taboo to mention anything in their regards. but they can come up with BS after BS with Christian schools all they like, but most of it is just uneducated dribble from the Socialist claiming half baked lies to try to bastardise anything that is not State school, why do they do such well the State schools peddle Socialism and if you have a Christian school they may not be on the same page with that program. but from what I seen with my youngest the RC school was given up to Socialism in the last 2 years, even the principle was a atheist and the Priest was a atheist moron as well, you may as well just of had a socialist convention their. straight out blasphemy straight up from the Priest is what I heard (you are all awesome ! turn to one beside you and tell them they are awesome ) you have to be kidding me ! did Jesus say that we are all awesome :rolleyes:. the bastard was a snake.

Many a Jew is working within the RCC and they have bastardised the Church, creating Vatican 2. they created WW2 as well they offered up the 6 million Jews to their god as well, that's why they call such a holocaust ( a burnt offering ) they are claiming god did such in fact, no it was the works of man in fact.
Socialism will always work to undermine a Church, because such is a mans works and as such it rejects God is above all. god is equal to man, because that's the mantra that all are equal.
 

Seven of Nine

Well-Known Member
Sep 28, 2020
733
636
93
North Texas
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Will the Catholic Church ever learn from its past mistakes? This reminds me of what the Catholic Church did in Nazi Germany.

No offense intended, but I don't see the Catholic Church as a beacon of morality or think it has a monopoly on moral issues. The Catholic Church has been plagued with sexual abuse scandals for decades and its hierarchy has protected pedophile priests from being prosecuted by the law.