• Welcome to Christian Forums, a Christian Forum that recognizes that all Christians are a work in progress.

    You will need to register to be able to join in fellowship with Christians all over the world.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

Behold

Well-Known Member
Apr 11, 2020
15,647
6,441
113
Netanya or Pensacola
Faith
Christian
Country
Israel
-
Lets look at something.. Reader.

Most people, including most believers, falsely think and believe........>"God sends some to hell".
But that is acutally not the case.
Why?
Well, its like this.......

Heaven.....is a eternal destination.
Hell....is a eternal destination.
They are both waiting for you, after you die.

So, a person decides, to end up there.......one or the other, based on....>"What did you do with Jesus, while you were ALIVE".
See that?
So, if you decided to REJECT CHRIST< all your life, and are never born again and DIE....= then you have chosen HELL as your eternal destination, followed by the Lake of Fire.
You chose it....YOU CHOSE this eternal destination by rejecting Christ while you were BREATHING, and God is going to let you go....where you chose to END UP, after you die.
He is not sending anyone to hell.....He is only honoring the choice they made, while they were alive.

And so it is with Heaven.
WE can all go to Heaven....but we have to obey the ONLY WAY to get there.....and Jesus is the ONLY WAY, and there is no other.

Not water.
Not works
Not church membership
Not mary, the pope, billy graham, or feeding orphans in India for 60 yrs.

Jesus said, you "MUST BE BORN AGAIN"< and that is the only WAY...... its through HIM, and that is a Spiritual BIRTH. John 14:6.

See, to be born again, means that the Blood of Jesus has taken care of all your sin, and its your sin that has to be resolved while you are alive, or you will not be allowed into Heaven.
This is the "preaching of the Cross"......which is to tell people that the Blood of God, and Christ on the Cross has been shed for them...
COME and become CLEAN.
COME and become CLEAN.
Come and let God clean you, and make you righteous with the Blood of Jesus.
This is the "preaching of the Cross".... 1st Corinthians 1:23
 

Robert Gwin

Well-Known Member
Mar 19, 2021
6,888
1,587
113
69
Central Il
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
-
Lets look at something.. Reader.

Most people, including most believers, falsely think and believe........>"God sends some to hell".
But that is acutally not the case.
Why?
Well, its like this.......

Heaven.....is a eternal destination.
Hell....is a eternal destination.
They are both waiting for you, after you die.

So, a person decides, to end up there.......one or the other, based on....>"What did you do with Jesus, while you were ALIVE".
See that?
So, if you decided to REJECT CHRIST< all your life, and are never born again and DIE....= then you have chosen HELL as your eternal destination, followed by the Lake of Fire.
You chose it....YOU CHOSE this eternal destination by rejecting Christ while you were BREATHING, and God is going to let you go....where you chose to END UP, after you die.
He is not sending anyone to hell.....He is only honoring the choice they made, while they were alive.

And so it is with Heaven.
WE can all go to Heaven....but we have to obey the ONLY WAY to get there.....and Jesus is the ONLY WAY, and there is no other.

Not water.
Not works
Not church membership
Not mary, the pope, billy graham, or feeding orphans in India for 60 yrs.

Jesus said, you "MUST BE BORN AGAIN"< and that is the only WAY...... its through HIM, and that is a Spiritual BIRTH. John 14:6.

See, to be born again, means that the Blood of Jesus has taken care of all your sin, and its your sin that has to be resolved while you are alive, or you will not be allowed into Heaven.
This is the "preaching of the Cross"......which is to tell people that the Blood of God, and Christ on the Cross has been shed for them...
COME and become CLEAN.
COME and become CLEAN.
Come and let God clean you, and make you righteous with the Blood of Jesus.
This is the "preaching of the Cross".... 1st Corinthians 1:23

One does not choose heaven sir, Jesus chooses those who will reside with him.
One does not choose hell sir, Adams sin put all of us there.
Did you forget that the vast majority of God's people inherit the earth, or do you believe He simply created the earth for nothing: Isa 45:18
 

Behold

Well-Known Member
Apr 11, 2020
15,647
6,441
113
Netanya or Pensacola
Faith
Christian
Country
Israel
One does not choose heaven sir, Jesus chooses


God accepts faith to then give Salvation.

He does not cause faith..........you cause it by BELIEVING.

BELIEVING is not up to GOD.
He does not have to believe in Christ to be saved.
You Do.
That is your choice, and God honors your choice after you die.
 

Robert Gwin

Well-Known Member
Mar 19, 2021
6,888
1,587
113
69
Central Il
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
God accepts faith to then give Salvation.

He does not cause faith..........you cause it by BELIEVING.

BELIEVING is not up to GOD.
He does not have to believe in Christ to be saved.
You Do.
That is your choice, and God honors your choice after you die.

Most certainly!
 

Behold

Well-Known Member
Apr 11, 2020
15,647
6,441
113
Netanya or Pensacola
Faith
Christian
Country
Israel
Most certainly!

Yes..

And something that is interesting,...... Is, that Jesus says that you "die in your sins" if you die rejecting Him....so that is your status on earth..
But this same person, will meet God, and He will not judge them for their sins......as they died in them, already..
No..
God will only judge the unbeliever for unbelief.. IN other words, the sin of Unbelief, ...Christ rejection.... as this is the unpardonable sin, that follows you, after you die. This is to die never having been "born again".
This sin forfeits Heaven and gains you Hell.
The reality is, the unbeliever was already judged while they were living, and death is just the part where they get the judgement delivered. John 3:36
So, God just allows you, the Christ rejector, the unbeliever, to end up, where Christ rejectors end up, and that can't be in Heaven with Christ.
See it?
 

Robert Gwin

Well-Known Member
Mar 19, 2021
6,888
1,587
113
69
Central Il
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Yes..

And something that is interesting,...... Is, that Jesus says that you "die in your sins" if you die rejecting Him....so that is your status on earth..
But this same person, will meet God, and He will not judge them for their sins......as they died in them, already..
No..
God will only judge the unbeliever for unbelief.. IN other words, the sin of Unbelief, ...Christ rejection.... as this is the unpardonable sin, that follows you, after you die. This is to die never having been "born again".
This sin forfeits Heaven and gains you Hell.
The reality is, the unbeliever was already judged while they were living, and death is just the part where they get the judgement delivered. John 3:36
So, God just allows you, the Christ rejector, the unbeliever, to end up, where Christ rejectors end up, and that can't be in Heaven with Christ.
See it?

All rejectors of Jesus will die sir. Very few of those who receive salvation will reside in heaven however.
 

Behold

Well-Known Member
Apr 11, 2020
15,647
6,441
113
Netanya or Pensacola
Faith
Christian
Country
Israel
All rejectors of Jesus will die sir. Very few of those who receive salvation will reside in heaven however.

Everyone dies.

If you die having not been born again :

Jesus said...>"you must be born again"....

Then this is yours ..... John 3:36
 

Robert Gwin

Well-Known Member
Mar 19, 2021
6,888
1,587
113
69
Central Il
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Everyone dies.

If you die having not been born again :

Jesus said...>"you must be born again"....

Then this is yours ..... John 3:36

Please define the term born again sir, I need to understand what you believe it means.
 

Behold

Well-Known Member
Apr 11, 2020
15,647
6,441
113
Netanya or Pensacola
Faith
Christian
Country
Israel
Please define the term born again sir, I need to understand what you believe it means.

Listen,

Your body is going to die.
Do you understand this?
How about you reader, do you under this fact, this reality?
They are going to dig a hole in the ground and put your dead body in it, unless you have it cremated.
Have you decided on which? You should.....as you have no idea when that moment is going to find you.
Paul said...>it is appointed utto man once to die and after this....the judgement.
See that "appointment" with death......you have one...Its already on the calendar.

Now, that day is for your body, but not for your Spirit.
See, your body is just a living dirt container...>Its an EARTH SUIT....that your Spirit exists in, which allows you to experience the "natural realm" or the earth and your all senses.
Your spirit is INSIDE YOUR BODY....Its inside it......and this Spirit, yours, is eternal.....It will never die, and after it leaves your dead body, it is going somewhere to exist, forever.

You have 2 Choices.

1. Heaven
2. Hell....then the Lake of Fire.

Those are DESTINATIONS that are available for your SPIRIT, and its going to one or the other after you die.

If you want your Spirit, that is the real you...to go to heaven, you have to become a part of God's Spirit.......As God is A Spirit, and you are a spirit, but you are not a part of God's spirit, until you are born again spiritually, INTO God's Holy Spirit..by GOD's Holy Spirit.
Jesus, who is God......said to you...."you must be born again".... = so that you can exit in heaven forever, as a part of God, as his Born again Spiritually as a "new creation", "in Christ"... ... a Son of God.

Understand, Robert // READER......this is a new spiritual birth., created and caused by God's Holy Spirit who produces in you this spiritual birth.
This spiritual birth, is to become "a new creation"..."in Christ", and if if does not happen, you will go to hell, having never had this spiritual birth, as that is where you go if you have never been born again on earth, by God's Holy Spirit.
God does this for all who will believe on Jesus, by FAITH.

You give God your faith in Christ and God will, by His Holy Spirit = BIRTH your Spirit into His own....and that spiritual birth, is to be "born again".

Not by water, and not by works...but by the Spirit of God.

Jesus said...>"you must be born again", if you want to go to heaven.
 

Robert Gwin

Well-Known Member
Mar 19, 2021
6,888
1,587
113
69
Central Il
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Listen,

Your body is going to die.
Do you understand this?
How about you reader, do you under this fact, this reality?
They are going to dig a hole in the ground and put your dead body in it, unless you have it cremated.
Have you decided on which? You should.....as you have no idea when that moment is going to find you.
Paul said...>it is appointed utto man once to die and after this....the judgement.
See that "appointment" with death......you have one...Its already on the calendar.

Now, that day is for your body, but not for your Spirit.
See, your body is just a living dirt container...>Its an EARTH SUIT....that your Spirit exists in, which allows you to experience the "natural realm" or the earth and your all senses.
Your spirit is INSIDE YOUR BODY....Its inside it......and this Spirit, yours, is eternal.....It will never die, and after it leaves your dead body, it is going somewhere to exist, forever.

You have 2 Choices.

1. Heaven
2. Hell....then the Lake of Fire.

Those are DESTINATIONS that are available for your SPIRIT, and its going to one or the other after you die.

If you want your Spirit, that is the real you...to go to heaven, you have to become a part of God's Spirit.......As God is A Spirit, and you are a spirit, but you are not a part of God's spirit, until you are born again spiritually, INTO God's Holy Spirit..by GOD's Holy Spirit.
Jesus, who is God......said to you...."you must be born again".... = so that you can exit in heaven forever, as a part of God, as his Born again Spiritually as a "new creation", "in Christ"... ... a Son of God.

Understand, Robert // READER......this is a new spiritual birth., created and caused by God's Holy Spirit who produces in you this spiritual birth.
This spiritual birth, is to become "a new creation"..."in Christ", and if if does not happen, you will go to hell, having never had this spiritual birth, as that is where you go if you have never been born again on earth, by God's Holy Spirit.
God does this for all who will believe on Jesus, by FAITH.

You give God your faith in Christ and God will, by His Holy Spirit = BIRTH your Spirit into His own....and that spiritual birth, is to be "born again".

Not by water, and not by works...but by the Spirit of God.

Jesus said...>"you must be born again", if you want to go to heaven.

Why did God create the earth Behold? What is the meaning of Ps 37:29?
 

Behold

Well-Known Member
Apr 11, 2020
15,647
6,441
113
Netanya or Pensacola
Faith
Christian
Country
Israel
Why did God create the earth Behold? What is the meaning of Ps 37:29?

Your question, is about the creation of the earth. So, that is one topic.

Your verse, is prophetic, It can be talking about the Jews or about Christ and His redeemed coming back to Jerusalem, at the 2nd Advent.

Notice...."inherit the land"......So, that means it belongs to those who belong to the owner of the land......and its the "righteous" who "inherit", the land.
Well, John 1:10 says that Jesus made the world.......So, its His.
And the born again are "Joint Heirs with Christ"......so, there is "inherit", as this verse means that what Jesus owns, and what Jesus is, has become ours, if we are born again.....because we are "in Christ". 'One with God"...>"an Heir of God".
 

Robert Gwin

Well-Known Member
Mar 19, 2021
6,888
1,587
113
69
Central Il
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Your question, is about the creation of the earth. So, that is one topic.

Your verse, is prophetic, It can be talking about the Jews or about Christ and His redeemed coming back to Jerusalem, at the 2nd Advent.

Notice...."inherit the land"......So, that means it belongs to those who belong to the owner of the land......and its the "righteous" who "inherit", the land.
Well, John 1:10 says that Jesus made the world.......So, its His.
And the born again are "Joint Heirs with Christ"......so, there is "inherit", as this verse means that what Jesus owns, and what Jesus is, has become ours, if we are born again.....because we are "in Christ". 'One with God"...>"an Heir of God".

God created the earth to be inhabited Behold. He does not change, what goes forth from His mouth will be. Humans will be resurrected and live on the earth just as He intended and informed us of in His word the Bible.
 

Robert Gwin

Well-Known Member
Mar 19, 2021
6,888
1,587
113
69
Central Il
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
And regarding the born again, we, the redeemed by the Blood of the Lame, will be with God when He comes back to take His Throne in Jerusalem.
That'll be pretty soon.

Yes sir, the remainder of the born again Christians who are still alive, will be raptured up to meet Jesus in the air upon his return as indicated by 1 Thes 4:17, the gathering and sealing being complete. We agree that will be very soon.