Christianity and Politics

[Berean]

All this talk about conservatives and liberals. Trump and Harris, good vs evil. Democrats vs Republicans.

Let me ask; did Jesus ever talk politics, did he take sides? Remember when Satan offered him ALL the kingdoms of the world? What did Jesus do? He refused, telling him: “Away with you, Satan!” (Matthew 4:10)

You’ll also remember in John 6:15, Jesus multiplied the fish and loaves and fed 5,000. The people wanted to make Him King. We’re told; “Jesus perceived that they were about to come and take Him by force to make Him king, He departed again to the mountain by Himself alone.”

The closest thing to a political discussion if some want to argue the point, is found in Mark 12:13-17. The Jews resented paying taxes to Rome as it was a burden.

“Teacher, is it lawful to pay taxes to Caesar, or not? 15 Shall we pay, or shall we not pay?” But He, knowing their hypocrisy, said to them, “Why do you test Me? Bring Me a denarius that I may see it.” 16 So they brought it And He said to them, “Whose image and inscription is this?” They said to Him, “Caesar’s.” 17 And Jesus answered and said to them, “Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.”

Notice Jesus didn’t get into a political debate about taxes. He remained neutral on the issue and geared the conversation back to God. Unlike the political comments of the brethren, who always debate the issues and never once focus their comments on Jesus or the Kingdom.

Let's look at Secular history.

On the Road to Civilization—A World History, page 238.
“Christians refused to share certain duties of Roman citizens. . . .They would not hold political office.”

Jesus and Judaism, page 231
“There is not a shred of evidence which would allow us to think that Jesus had military/political ambitions, and . . . the same applies to the disciples.”

Caesar and Christ, page 647.
“To a Christian his religion was something apart from and superior to political society; his highest allegiance belonged not to Caesar but to Christ.”

Beyond Good Intentions—A Biblical View of Politics, pages 122-123.
“[The apostle] Paul was willing to use his Roman citizenship to demand the protections of the judicial process due him, but he engaged in no lobbying on the public policy issues of the day. . . .Though they believed they were obligated to honor the governing authorities, the early Christians did not believe in participating in political affairs.

A History of Christianity, Volume I, page 253.
“There was a conviction widely held among Christians that none of their number should hold office under the state . . . As late as the beginning of the third century Hippolytus said that historic Christian custom required a civic magistrate to resign his office as a condition of joining the Church.”

Jesus said His Kingdom was not of this world. True Christians are not Democrats, Republicans, Libertarian or any of the 24 other political parties in the United States. We’re Theocrats, members of God's Kingdom through Christ Jesus.

 

[NotTheRock]

I cringe when Christian church LEADERS share their political opinions in place of the word of God that their congregation is presumably there to hear.

 

[BlessedPeace]

Did Yeshua talk politics?
Oh,yes. From start to finish, beginning to the end.
From Genesis and culminating with His Revelations.

 

[BlessedPeace]

 

[Jericho]

Caesars held supreme authority; some were even deified. At a time when emperors and states were considered to have absolute authrority, Jesus came along to remind them that God is above them all. Give to Caesar what is Caesar's, and give to God what is God's is a very political statement for that very reason. From challenging the authrorites to overturning the money changers tables to riding in Jerusalem on a donkey to declare himself the Messiah, he did many things that authrorities would have considered poltical.

Romans 13:1 states there is no authority except that which God has established, and Daniel 2:21 says, "he deposes kings and raises up others." That tells me that God does get involved in politics. I would suggest that Christians refusing to engage in politics is the reason why the U.S., and the world for that matter, is in the mess that it's end. The phrase about being too heavenly-minded to be no earthly good comes to mind.

 

[PGS11]

Why would you want to mix the most corrupt group in the world with religion.Honestly I think they would be just as dangerous as in Islamic countries if they are fundamentalist they would want to punish everyone for their sins they can't wait for Jesus to pass judgement they would want it now.When the Antichrist comes it quite obvious all Governments will be involved.

 

[BlessedPeace]

Why would you want to mix the most corrupt group in the world with religion.Honestly I think they would be just as dangerous as in Islamic countries if they are fundamentalist they would want to punish everyone for their sins they can't wait for Jesus to pass judgement they would want it now.When the Antichrist comes it quite obvious all Governments will be involved.

The puritans religious rule in the Massachusetts Bay colony should serve as that example. And warning.

God In America - People - The Puritans

www.pbs.org

Not that Sharia ruled Muslim countries don't serve as one now.

Or, over 2000 years ago, the Jewish law rule that insured Christ was persecuted and killed. And those laws were from God. And enforced by men.

Lots of historic examples prove a Theocracy is a bad idea.

These forums and the conflicts that arise among the actual Christians relative to Scripture and its meaning and application today is a very good example against such a thing nationwide.

 

[Berean]

I cringe when Christian church LEADERS share their political opinions in place of the word of God that their congregation is presumably there to hear.

That's because most of them are in bed with politicians

 

[Berean]

Give to Caesar what is Caesar's, and give to God what is God's is a very political statement for that very reason.

That statement was in regards to paying taxes.

From challenging the authorities to overturning the money changers' tables to riding in Jerusalem on a donkey to declare himself the Messiah, he did many things that authorities would have considered political.

Only one problem, Jesus wasn't running for office. He is the installed King of His Father's Kingdom. He's not running for earthly political office, his Kingdom will be a dictatorship, where he will rules with a rod of iron.

Romans 13:1 states there is no authority except that which God has established,

Actually, what it states is "Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God." It doesn't say God's People are to run or vote.

and Daniel 2:21 says, "he deposes kings and raises up others." That tells me that God does get involved in politics.

In the Old Testament He certainly did

I would suggest that Christians refusing to engage in politics is the reason why the U.S., and the world for that matter, is in the mess that it's end. The phrase about being too heavenly-minded to be no earthly good comes to mind.

I take it you believe that we should join the military and fight for out prospective countries too.

 

[Jericho]

That was statement was in regards to paying taxes.

Yes, but there is a deeper implication there. It implies not all things belonged to Caesar, which challenged Caesar's supreme authority.

Actually, what it states is "Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God." It doesn't say God's People are to run or vote.

Does that somehow imply that we shouldn't vote?

In the Old Testament He certainly did

Whose to say He still doesn't?

I take it you believe that we should join the military and fight for out prospective countries too.

If one chooses to do so. But fighting for a country doesn't only involve military service. It's fighting for the things we as Christians stand for, which nowadays often spills over in the political arena (the fight over abortion, for example). If you care about what kind of country you live in, if you can worship freely, and what kind of world you want to leave your children and your grandchildren after you're gone, then these things do matter.

In the New Testament, the word "church" is translated from the Greek word "Ekklēsia". We think of the church as merely an assembly of believers, but the original use of the word Ekklēsia had civic and political connotations. It's a contrast to the belief that our faith should be relegated to the four walls of the church building and nothing else.

 

[NotTheRock]

Christians should be active in their communities and government and do so in a manner consistent with the teachings of Jesus.

As for Christian church LEADERS, I believe that they should follow the example of Jesus and the apostles and stick to sharing THEIR words rather than their own.

 

[doctrox]

Notice Jesus didn’t get into a political debate about taxes. He remained neutral on the issue and geared the conversation back to God.

Jesus wasn't "neutral;" rather, he rebuked Simon Peter for "volunteering." Jesus said that children of God are free from taxation (Mat. 17:26), but then permitted Peter to fulfill his foolishly incurred obligation (lest they both be scandalized).

"Notwithstanding, lest we should offend them..." (v. 27)
offend = skandalizo

Does that somehow imply that we shouldn't vote?

Of course!

When elections come up, people usually choose between the “lesser of two evils.” But we have to remember that there is no such thing as the lesser of two evils. Evil is evil, and there are no degrees of evil (James 2:10). So, whoever came up with that phrase, “the lesser of two evils” is a liar. And, when you do vote, you are not voting for the lesser of two evils, they admit that you are voting for evil.

It doesn't matter what promises anybody makes, they never keep them anyway. But what spirit are they of? Are they of Christ or are they anti-Christ? That's all we have to look at.

Why is it evil to elect men? Well, it's because you are electing men to rule over you. Similarly to what happened to Israel when they went to Samuel and told him they wanted to be ruled by men, like other nations (1 Samuel 8:4), and God said to Samuel, "they have not rejected thee, but they have rejected me, that I should not reign over them” (1 Samuel 8:7). Therefore, if we would vote to have men rule over us, when we have the offer of the Kingdom of God to rule over our hearts and minds (Philippians 4:7), we are rejecting God's rule over us.

There is nothing new under the sun (Ecclesiastes 1:9). This has to do with voluntary servitude. If you turn your back on God you become servants to men. When you go out and vote, you are saying, “I am a servant of men and I want these men to rule over me.” You are putting men in the place of God, and that's a usurpation of God and it's also idolatry. And if you're looking to men, God is not sufficient.

And you know, God has already given us a King (Acts 17:7). God did not leave anyone here to rule over us. Actually, Christ refused to set up a worldly kingdom. That was one of the temptations Jesus was tempted with in the wilderness. The Devil showed him “all the kingdoms of the world” (Matthew 4:8), and that must have been one of the greatest temptations that Christ was faced with, to set up a kingdom and rule the earth. I mean, just think of all the good he could have done!

And that's the kind of temptation that men think, when they say, “if only we could get a good man into power.” But, it's never going to happen because power corrupts, and another reason is the heart of man is evil (Genesis 6:5; 8:21, Ecclesiastes 8:11, Jeremiah 17:9). And you're pretty much at their mercy once you've given them approval.

The State is set in place for dishing out privileges. They claim to serve the public, but at the same time they don't freely give anything. There's a duty attached to everything, and that's not the way that we're supposed to give. We're not going to change anything by voting the right people in government, because even if we got the right people in, it still wouldn't change the heart of the people. It's the heart of the people that needs to be changed on an individual basis. We, individually, need to turn our lives over to the King of kings. Voting is not going to do any good, and people are beginning to realize that. That's why the voter turnout is so bad, and people are fed up with the fact that they can't change anything.

And the system is so corrupt that vote scam is so blatantly out in the open, and most people know that “the people” don't vote, and politicians get elected by those behind the scenes. Prior to the Civil was, there were no secret ballots, everyone voted in the open. The word “ballot” comes from “ball lot,” they cast their lot with either a white ball or a black ball (that's where the term “blackballed” comes from). But, with secret voting, the so-called powers that be can manipulate that vote any way they like, and that's why they keep their own people in power. And of course it's even better for them now with computers. The secret ballot originally came from Australia:

Australian Ballot: A system of secret voting whereby the voter indicates his choice of the candidates who have been nominated by a mark alongside the name of the candidate thus chosen. The system originates in Australia, whence its name. Rayden's Law Dictionary, 1954.

And that's why, today, we have no idea whether the actual vote count is true or not. All of the voting laws stem from the Reconstruction Acts after the Civil War. They passed a Voting Act in 1865-1866. Voting is an “elective franchise” and it is a “privilege” granted by the State. The word “privilege” comes from the Latin “privus” and “legis, and that means private law. So when you receive any kind of privilege from government, you are engaging in a private law, the law of the law merchant. That's what all the government officials are for, for this corporate government, which exists for business, for the economy. And the word economy is just another word for mammon (Luke 6:9-13). So you're electing those to give you all the privileges of the wealth of the world. To a large extent it's socialistic. But when you're engaged in a private law, you're not involved in the Law of God, which is NOT private law. You turn your back on God when you look to those things.

“Every people looks primarily to its own benefit...Every government is organized selfishness. It is constituted for the food of its constituents. The Preamble of the Constitution of the United States of America embodies this explicitly as the object of its adoption. It is the embodiment of a scheme, devised by the people of the United States to form a more perfect union of states then imperfectly united, to establish justice among themselves, to insure their domestic tranquility, to provide for their own defense, to promote their general welfare and to secure the blessings of liberty, not to the world at large, but to themselves and their prosperity.” (A Yale Law Review from 8 Yale Law 159, page 165, which is from a book called The People Of The United States, Simeon E. Baldwin, 1899).

This fellow was a lawyer, so they know what government is all about, and its all for the benefit of the people. We don't find Christ there, it's men ruling other men, giving benefits to one another. And when the natural man gives a benefit to you, there's a duty attached to it. There's no “freely” giving (Matthew 10:8) and expecting nothing in return, as scripture tells us. We are not to touch the unclean thing (2 Corinthians 6:17), and when you vote and become a beneficiary of the franchise, you are joining yourself to the unclean. And we have to take those things into consideration.

Every man believes he has a right in the outcome of the destiny of society. This is a myth. If God directs men to move in a way that's led by God, then no vote can change the Will of God. The “voter registration” is secular man's faulty reasoning that he, in and of himself, can save all, if you just give him enough power, more money, more…more…more…and still more. As soon as you put your “X” on that thing that votes for that politician, you become part of the world, you voted to be ordered around. The politician needs your consent to crack a whip over your head, make you feel like the animal that you have partaken of. You are now part of the zoo of humanity.

Bondmen of Christ cannot vote because that would be violence or force. We are not into using force, you cannot force the Kingdom of God, you cannot force people to love, you cannot force your love on others, you cannot force people to be free, because that requires violence to enforce it. And "the weapons of our warfare are not carnal" (2 Corinthians 10:4).

In the Old Testament, the people "voted" to kill Joshua and Caleb (Numbers 14:10). Right after they voted, God said, "...How long will this people provoke me? ...I will smite them with the pestilence, and disinherit them," (Numbers 14:11-12), but Moses asked for mercy and God pardoned their evil ways. In the New Testament, during the trial of Christ Jesus, Pontius Pilate let the people "vote" between Barabbas and Jesus as to who they wanted set free (Matthew 27:17). The Pharisees whispered lies in the people's ears so they would vote the way they wanted them to vote. This "voting privilege" allowed Jesus to be crucified!

By receiving a privilege or benefit from the government, we are gaining the favor of rulers; but scripture says, "Many wait on the favor of rulers; but justice comes to a man from the LORD" (Proverbs 29:26). In other words, those who look to the favor of governments will not really get justice, which is one reason why many people complain there is no justice in today's courts, no matter WHO they vote for. Why? Because voting does not bring about justice, in brings about injustice! Why does in bring about injustice? Because people do not "vote" to do God's Will, they "vote" to have people do their own will, for selfish reasons, and the consequences of selfishness is always injustice.

In conclusion, voting is very unscriptural.

 

[Taken]

Choosing, Voting, Electing…
By;
Casting lots, Marking a ballot, Word declaration….IS Scriptural.

1 Thes 1:
[4] Knowing, brethren beloved, your election of God.

Election of God, IS choosing whom you shall serve according to Gods Word.

Election of Government Officials, IS choosing whom shall serve you, according to Gods Word.

Gods laws were established, according to the Standards and Principles of Gods Word, according to the Ten Commandments, which established the guideline for the Liberty of man, adjoined with the citizenry in Lord God Almighty.

The government of the United States was established according to the Standards and Principles of Gods Word, according to the Limits of the US Constitution, which established the guideline for the Liberty of men, adjoined with citizenry in the United States.

The United States was called the Land of the Free, the Land of Liberty….BECAUSE this Land, this Nation, Her Citizenry…Agreed its Laws, Its Governing Servants, Its Institutions thereof, WOULD BE ACCORDING to Gods Standards and Principles, And WHY it was called A representative REPUBLIC.

First LEARN the “LIMITS” of Gods Commandments to Servants…
Then LEARN the “LIMITS” of the Constitutional Duties of Servants.

Then OPEN EYES, and observe HOW elected, appointed, hired, seated Teachers, Judges, Governors, Presidents, Congress have UNDERMINED what they AGREED to UPHOLD.

IF, you know NOT, what BILLS Congress introduces, and you know NOT the Language of such BILL is UnConsititutional AND YOU DO NOT Notify your representative, YOU STAND AGAINST passage of such Bill “and Why”…

Why would you remotely IMAGINE your “duly sworn representative….is Representing You”?

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[SavedInHim]

The intermingling of religion with politics n the US was inevitable. Institutional religion has a lot more in common with the institutions of the world than it does with Christ's church. It was only a matter of time before they began to incorporate the world's politics.

 

[doctrox]

1 Thes 1:
[4] Knowing, brethren beloved, your election of God.

Election of God, IS choosing whom you shall serve according to Gods Word.

Election of Government Officials, IS choosing whom shall serve you, according to Gods Word.

"Election" in this passage has nothing to do with voting.

The government of the United States was established according to the Standards and Principles of Gods Word, according to the Limits of the US Constitution...

Sounds warm and snuggly but it's incorrect. The word "God" does not even appear in the US Constitution.

Scripture tells us to test people, to see if they are of God or not.

1 John 4:1, "Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world."

This only makes sense, when one is sincerely interested in associating with godly people, while avoiding the contamination and influence of ungodly men.

The key, however, to the rejection of the rule of God was Article VI, Clause 3, "The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several state Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States."

Most are unaware the "Constitution" forbids God. The Constitution was a rebellion against Christ and his authority over the nation, replacing it with the rule of man. The Bible warns us, "Cease ye from man, whose breath is in his nostrils: for wherein is he to be accounted of?" (Isaiah 2:22).

An objection is that the Constitution contains Christian principles and therefore is a sort of halfway covenant. As evidence of this, they may offer that the Constitution presents us with a system of divided authority and diffused powers. Even covenant-breaking historians would admit that Christian principles exist within the Constitution while denying that it is a Christian covenant (again, the word “God” does not appear in the “Constitution”). The problem with this is that every government that exists contains Christian principles. In fact, any truth or correct morality is a Christian principle. All true and good principles are Christian principles because this universe is created and governed by the true and living God who has revealed himself in the Bible. Islamic governments contain many Biblical principles, such as capital punishment. That does not, however, save them from condemnation as apostate covenants. We must return to the question, what sort of Christian principles constitute a Christian government and what make an apostate government? The Biblical covenant model is the Biblical model and therefore the only proper judge of whether or not a state is a covenant-keeping one.

In Torcaso v. Watkins, 367 U.S. 488 (1961), the United States Supreme Court holds that the state of Maryland can not require applicants for public office to swear that they believed in the existence of God. The court unanimously rules that a religious test violates the Establishment Clause. This verifies that the U.S. Constitution allows Atheists to rule and make laws for bondservants of Christ!

“We the people...” = the religion of humanism. This is why citizens have Satanists ruling over them today -- and they signed on to their program voluntarily!

 

[Berean]

Choosing, Voting, Electing…
By;
Casting lots, Marking a ballot, Word declaration….IS Scriptural.

The eleven cast lots to replace Judas, because they were impatient. Obviously this is NOT what the Lord wanted, as he chose Saul / Paul to be His choice.

1 Thes 1:
[4] Knowing, brethren beloved, your election of God.

Election of God, IS choosing whom you shall serve according to Gods Word.

Election of Government Officials, IS choosing whom shall serve you, according to Gods Word.

This verse has already been stated has NOTING to do with voting and everything to do with being begotten of the holy Spirit and adopted as sons and daughters of God.

The government of the United States was established according to the Standards and Principles of Gods Word, according to the Limits of the US Constitution, which established the guideline for the Liberty of men, adjoined with citizenry in the United States.

That in itself doesn't mean that the United States is approved of God, as if it is the new promise land.

The United States was called the Land of the Free, the Land of Liberty….BECAUSE this Land, this Nation, Her Citizenry…Agreed its Laws, Its Governing Servants, Its Institutions thereof, WOULD BE ACCORDING to Gods Standards and Principles, And WHY it was called A representative REPUBLIC.

And how's that working out?

 

[doctrox]

The eleven cast lots to replace Judas...

FWIW, casting a lot (all are eligible) is not synonymous with casting a vote (only the pre-selected are eligible).

 

[Taken]

The eleven cast lots to replace Judas, because they were impatient. Obviously this is NOT what the Lord wanted, as he chose Saul / Paul to be His choice.

Disagree.
* Yes….God established the 12 Tribes of Israel.
* Yes…Jacob, ie ISRAEL 12 sons = 12 Tribes.
* Yes….ISRAEL (Jacob) blessed his grandsons (Manasseh, Ephraim), with Jacobs son (Joseph), Land inheritance.
* Yes….Manasseh & Ephraim each held as a half share of land, however, the totality of their land, was larger than the other sons appointed lands.
* Yes…On the 12 Gates of the new Jerusalem, JOSEPH’S name shall appear among the 11 sons of Jacob (ISRAEL).

* Yes….Jesus was sent to seek the Lost of the 12 Tribes of ISRAEL.
* Yes….Jesus CHOSE 12 to ALSO seek the Lost of the 12 Tribes of ISRAEL.
* Yes…..12 Accepted being CHOSEN
* Yes….1 defaulted, killed himself
* Yes… only 11 were left ALIVE to continue Jesus’ Mission, of seeking the Lost Jews of the 12 Tribes of Israel.
* Yes….the remaining 11 CHOSE Matthias
* Yes….the 12 set their course; Appointing other disciples to aid them in their works (traveling in the way of the seeking tribesMEN, preaching, establishing scribes travel and to hear and write to thus establish records and accounting of their works.)

So WHAT about the Jews, (ie at this point, ANY Tribesman of Israel, remaining Faithful to God) (ie NOT LOST, still believing IN God, but UNKNOWING ABOUT JESUS the Messiah…..
and the KINGS of the present Lands….
and the GENTILES (ignorant of the JEWISH GOD and His Christ Messiah JESUS)?

Was it the TRIBES of ISRAEL “SENT” ….
TO: Teach, Preach, Introduce FAITHFUL to GOD JEWS, to Jesus the Christ Messiah?
No.
TO: Teach, Preach, Introduce KINGS to the Jewish God and Jesus the Christ Messiah? No.
TO: Teach, Preach, Introduce GENTILES to the Jews God and Jesus the Christ Messiah?
No.

Jesus did not REPLACE (DEAD) Judas Iscariot…(the 11 Disciples DID).

Jesus Approached SAUL (the Jewish Pharisee, son of a Jewish Woman)…PAUL (the Roman Citizen, son of a Roman Man)…
AND OFFERED….SAUL/PAUL a very hard MISSION in Service TO Christ the Lord Jesus..
AND? SAUL/PAUL…accepted the MISSION…
AND? The Spirit of God…(for a curious 3 years / same as the disciples of Jesus)…PREPARED SAUL/PAUL (same AS Jesus had PREPARED His disciples for 3 years)…for their MISSION.
AND? SO…each fulfilled their MISSIONS, in Service TO and ACCORDING TO:
the Lord God Almighty.

We do not need to interpret Scripture to what makes sense to our MINDS…
When one FALLS away, they LOSE their status.
When one EXCELS in service, they Become Beloved and Favored of God. They are given greater (more) Services to accomplish having proven themselves, and the greater (more) status (hierarchy) is appointed unto them.
(Excellent examples…
Noah
Moses
Saul/Paul, (son of Jew & Roman Gentile); John (son of Zebedee);
Simon Peter, (son of Jonas).
Joseph, of the House of David
Mary, betrothed of Joseph
ManKIND, any who willingly Believe, Confess and hold their standing TRUTH by their natural spirits word AND vow their bodily life unto death FOR the Lord God.

Vote…Elect…Choose….all mean the SAME thing…to establish the SAME…END…RESULT, for EACH individual.

IF a man CHOOSES God…CHOOSES Jesus, CHOOSES…Christ…
The “ORDER and WAY”…of that mans SALVATION AND Redemption AND Wholeness AND Heavenly Accounting AND Fruition, is established IN Gods Word, recorded IN Scripture.

This verse has already been stated has NOTING to do with voting and everything to do with being begotten of the holy Spirit and adopted as sons and daughters of God.

Voting, electing, Choosing…all the same thing….BEFORE a man becomes “baptized” of the Holy Spirit.
The Baptism of the Holy Spirit…IS a consequence of a mans….CHOOSING.

That in itself doesn't mean that the United States is approved of God, as if it is the new promise land.

The United States was ESTABLISHED on the Standards and Principles OF GODS WORD…

No one said anything about, nor implied the US as being the new promised land..

And how's that working out?

It would work out GREAT, if the People did not continue to seat dishonorable men in honorable seats!

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Berean]

Voting, electing, Choosing…all the same thing….BEFORE a man becomes “baptized” of the Holy Spirit.
The Baptism of the Holy Spirit…IS a consequence of a mans….CHOOSING.

Actually, God does the choosing.

 

[Taken]

Actually, God does the choosing.

Actually…a relationship between TWO requires TWO to choose.

Actually…God DEMANDS ALL shall believe IN Him….ALL SHALL believe IN Him.

Actually…God DESIRES ALL shall become Soul Saved…..ALL SHALL NOT Become Soul saved….BECAUSE ALL SHALL NOT “choose” Him.

Actually….God KNOWS WHO Shall and WHO Shall NOT Become Soul Saved…AND in His Wisdom, has PREPARED a final Destination FOR EACH.

Glory to God,
Taken