Continued From Beware the Pseudo-Rapture Doctrine 3

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Sunday 12-18-22 1st. Day Of The Weekly Cycle, Kislev 23, 5783 86th. Fall Day

The Coming of the Lord!



What will happen after the Tribulation?



“Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: AND THEN shall appear the sign of the Son of man [Jesus Christ] in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall SEE THE SON OF MAN COMING IN THE CLOUDS OF HEAVEN with power and great glory. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together HIS ELECT from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other” (Matthew 24:29-3 1).



Notice the proper sequence – First, Great Tribulation! Next, heavenly signs! Afterwards, the Second Coming of Jesus Christ – Yeshua Ha Moshiach!



What could be clearer, more plain, than that? Yeshua makes it perfectly plain, so simple a child can understand it. He said the heavenly signs would occur “immediately after” the great tribulation of those days, not before. And Christ Himself would return AFTER the heavenly signs, and therefore also AFTER the tribulation!



Notice, too, that when this occurs, Yeshua will send his angels to “GATHER TOGETHER HIS ELECT” (verse 31).



Who are his “elect”? Let’s let the Bible interpret this for us.



Peter spoke of Christians as being God’s elect. He began his first epistle, “Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia, ELECT according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ” (I Peter 1: 1-2).



Christ said to His disciples, “And shall God not avenge His own elect who cry out day and night to Him, though He bares long with them?” (Luke 18:7).



Paul wrote, “Who shall bring a charge against God’s elect? It is God who justifies. Who is he who condemns? It is Christ who died, and furthermore is also risen, who is even at the right hand of God, who also makes intercession for us” (Rom.8:33-34).



Paul declared, “Therefore, as the ELECT of God, holy and beloved, put on tender mercies, kindness, humility, meekness, longsuffering” (Col.3:12).



Paul also spoke of “the faith of God’s elect” (Titus 1:1). Peter warns us, however, “Therefore, brethren, be even more diligent to make your call and election sure” (I Pet.1:10).



It should be perfectly clear! We who belong to Christ, Yeshua the Messiah, are the true “elect” – “a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people” (I Peter 2:9-10). Jesus Himself is the true corner stone; “elect, precious” (verse 6), and if we are in Him, then we are the elect of God also!



It is for the sake of God’s “elect” – true servants of God, true Christians – that God will cut short the days of coming Tribulation, so that the whole world will not perish in nuclear flames! Yeshua promised, “And if those days had not been cut short, no one would be saved; but for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short” (Matthew 24:22, NRSV).



Notice that these same elect will be gathered up to meet Christ “with the great sound of a trumpet” (Matthew 24:3 1). Obviously, they have not already been gathered prior to this time in some sort of “secret rapture”!!!



“A Thief in the Night”



Think carefully. Be brutally honest with yourself. Does all this sound like a quiet, off-in-a-corner clandestine, surreptitious, secret affair? Will Christ quietly, mysteriously, secretly come to spirit away His saints?



No, not at all!



His second coming will be accompanied with tremendous, high-decibel NOISE! there will be the loud voice of an archangel, as well as the loud trumpet blast rending the heavens! Jeremiah tells us, “The LORD will ROAR from on high, and utter His voice from His holy habitation; He will ROAR MIGHTILY against His fold. He will give a SHOUT, as those who trample the grapes, against all the inhabitants of the earth. A noise will come to all the ends of the earth – for the LORD has a controversy with the nations” (Jer.25:30-31, NKJV).



Does that sound like a secret rapture?



Christ will be seen by the nations as He comes, Matthew recorded (Matthew 24:30). “Every eye will SEE Him” (Rev.1:7). He will not be invisible or secretive.



Why, then, does Paul also say, “The day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night” (I Thess.5:2)? Why did Christ declare, “I will come like a thief” (Rev.3:3)?



Does this contradict all the other Scriptures, and mean that He will come invisibly? Does a thief ever come “invisibly”? Of course not! No man can be “invisible” – although a man can “hide,” or come secretly, by stealth.



How will Christ come as a thief? He Himself answers that question. He goes on to say, “and you will not know at what hour I will come” (Rev.3:3 again). In other words, He will come unexpectedly, when most people are sound asleep, totally unalert, and oblivious to the signs around them. Solomon wrote, “For man also does not know his time: Like fish taken in a cruel net, like birds caught in a snare, so the sons of men are snared in an evil time” (Eccl.9:12).



As Paul declared, “When they say, ‘There is peace and security,’ then sudden destruction will come upon them, as labor pains come upon a pregnant woman, and there will be no escape!” (I Thess.5:3).



The world will be caught unawares! But, Paul continues, “But you, beloved, are not in darkness, for that day to surprise you like a thief; for you are all children of light and children of the day; we are not of the night or of darkness. So then let us not fall asleep as others do, but let us KEEP AWAKE and be sober; for those who sleep sleep at night, and those who get drunk get drunk at night. But since we belong to the day, let us be sober, and put on the breastplate of faith and love, and for a helmet the hope of salvation. For God has destined us not for wrath but for obtaining salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ, who died for us, so that whether we are awake or asleep we may live with him. Therefore encourage one another and build up each other, as indeed you are doing” (I Thess.5:4-11).



Yeshua also declared, “But know this, that if the good man of the house had known in what watch [or hour] the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up. Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh” (Matthew 24:43-44).



What Is the "Last Trumpet"?



Now let’s notice another Scripture which spells out very clearly the Second Coming of Christ. Paul wrote that the saints would be resurrected at the “LAST TRUMPET” (I Cor.15:51-52). This is the trumpet which is blown when Christ returns for His saints.



Does this trumpet announce a secret rapture? Which trumpet is the “last” trumpet blast?



In the book of Revelation (which means a “revealing”, not a concealing of information), we read a prophetic outline of the future. According to this outline, the future is sealed with seven seals which will be opened consecutively (Revelation 5:1-9). Notice that the seventh seal will consist of “seven angels which stood before God; and to them were given seven trumpets” (Rev. 8:1-2). When each of these trumpets are sounded, various events will take place on the earth. The first angel sounds his trumpet, and plagues are poured on the earth. So it is for the next three angelic plagues, accompanied by trumpet blasts (Rev.8). When the fifth angel blows his trumpet, another plague – a terrible war – erupts on the earth (Rev.9:1-12). This is followed by the sixth angelic trumpet blast, and an army of 200,000,000 men from Asian nations attacks westward, killing one third of mankind (Rev.9:13-21).



But notice, now – notice what happens when the SEVENTH, or LAST, trumpet will sound!



“Then the seventh angel sounded: And there were loud voices in heaven, saying, ‘THE KINGDOMS OF THIS WORLD HAVE BECOME THE KINGDOMS OF OUR LORD AND OF HIS CHRIST, and he shall reign forever and ever!’ And the twenty-four elders who sat before God on their thrones fell on their faces and worshipped God, saying: ‘We give You thanks, O Lord God Almighty, the One who is and who was and who is to come, because You have taken Your great power and reigned. The nations were angry, and Your wrath has come, and the TIME OF THE DEAD, that they should be judged, and that You should REWARD Your servants the prophets, and the saints, and those who fear Your name, small and great; and should destroy those who destroy the earth” (Revelation 11:15-19). Here again, spelled out in careful detail, is what will happen when the last trumpet blasts forth its shrill clarion call. Christ will return; the dead in Christ shall be raised; the saints will be judged and rewarded, every man according to his own works; and, the wrath of God will be poured out upon a rebellious, defiant world.



How clear it is! The theory of a secret rapture, to whisk away the saints to heaven before the Great Tribulation, is unbiblical, unscriptural, unfounded and unsound! It is unthinkable! Jesus Christ, Yeshua, never taught it. The apostles did not teach it. It did not become a teaching in the Church until the nineteenth century. Exactly where did it come from? The truth is staggering – mind blowing!

By William F. Dankenbring

Love, Walter and Debbie

To Be Continued

 
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How clear it is! The theory of a secret rapture, to whisk away the saints to heaven before the Great Tribulation, is unbiblical, unscriptural, unfounded and unsound! It is unthinkable! Jesus Christ, Yeshua, never taught it. The apostles did not teach it. It did not become a teaching in the Church until the nineteenth century. Exactly where did it come from? The truth is staggering – mind blowing!

By William F. Dankenbring

Love, Walter and Debbie

To Be Continued


DISAGREE.

Basic WHY...
...This theory primarily takes Scriptural “prefaces” and “terms”, as a basis for the WHOLE picture.
...Then ADD IN the suspect words to bolster the theory....secret, can not be known, dark, can not see, immediately....blah, blah.

Meaning, for example, pick up a book, open the book, read the PREFACE. It’s a paragraph to capture your interest of what to expect to LEARN IN DETAILS what you will LEARN IN THE TEXT BODY of the WHOLE BOOK.

Wrath, Tribulation, Chaos, Signs, Wonders, Immediately, Return, etc.

Keep IN MIND....a few basics.
1) God gives life, God takes away life.
2) Life of a man, IS Blood
3) All men SHALL bodily DIE.
4) God Loves all His man-KIND creations.
5) God DESIRES all man-KIND creations WILL freely Choose to LOVE Him.
6) Man-Kinds FREEWILL...choose to Love God...or Not.
7) Gods Order and Way...Believe in God, Love God....God WILL save, make that man ANEW, glorified body, Keep that man WITH Him Forever.
8) WHEN?
.... WHEN a believing man gives HIS bodily life unto Death...WHILE IN BELIEF.
.....FOR many men....^^ THAT occurs AFTER the mans PHYSICAL death.
.....FOR 4,000 YEARS...^^ THAT was the ONLY WAY.

9) WHAT changed, 2,000 years ago?
Heb 7: [22] By so much was Jesus made a surety of a better testament.

10) IS the Old Testament, OF a man WHO BELIEVES at Physical Death Still Saved, after His Physical Death? Yes.
11) So what is this “thing Jesus MADE possible of a SURETY” ?
12) And WHY is that “thing” BETTER?

13) Crucifixion of Jesus’ Body...
14) ANY man willing to “assume the willingness and attested with his own word....A) he believes. B) confesses his belief. C) willingness to Give/Lay down his own body unto Death, for His Love of God, Crucified WITH Jesus’ body.
15) Then WHAT? He has satisfied Gods requirement that man MUST DIE ONCE....thus THAT MAN, “receives his Salvation THEN”.
16) Does THAT MAN, receive “his NEW BODY THEN” ? No.
17) THAT man receives:
* His soul salvation (ie restoration, again very good as it was went given him)...
....given when God blew His breath of life in that body..
....restored..pss 23: 3...when saved by God.
* Seed of God...baptism of the Holy Spirit...born of the Spirit of Gods Seed.

18) OKAY...so the man HAS a Saved soul and Quickened spirit...
What about his BODY?
19) Remember “crucified With Jesus’ body” ?
20) Remember “ONLY Jesus’” body was risen up glorified?
21) Men who ARE “crucified” with Jesus’....age GIVEN HIS RISEN BODY to LIVE “IN”....until the day THEIR OWN BODY is Risen UP in Glory.
22) Men WHO ARE Living IN Jesus’ risen Body....are CALLED.... “IN” Christ.
23 ) Remember Gods People...ISRAEL? They Are Gods. God SAVES THEM, according to Gods (timeframe)...and FROM the Beginning...they of (ISRAEL) who were Faithful TO God....died, body went to gave, departed living soul is with God, they wait for their body to be risen, glorified.
24) Remember Jesus’ People...first Jews, then all Tribes of Israel, then Gentiles?
25) Remember Jesus’ appeared to man-Kind ... a humble servant.
26) Remember Jesus’ IS...The Word, Truth, Way, Life of God?
27) Remember Jesus’ WAS REVEALED ... IS the Christ.
28) Remember the Christ IS: Spirit, Power, Seed of God?
29) Remember...the ENTIRE offering of God...to Man-KIND IS all about Gods OFFERING....to “MAKE” a man WHOLLY, WHOLE, HOLY...body, soul, spirit.

30) ONCE a man IS “MADE” (By the POWER of God):
Wholly, Whole, Holy....WHAT THEN?

31) IS there “SOMETHING” God omitted and must DO additionally, BEFORE that man IS Acceptable for God to Redeem? No.
32) So ... WHAT THEN?
33) OH ... Remember, WHAT WAS, SHALL BE AGAIN? (Ecc 1:9)
34) WHAT WAS? Gods anger, Gods wrath, Gods tribulations (upon ALL men NOT “WITH” Him, in belief and allegiance TO Him)...God sent down from Heaven upon the entire Earth, to destroy the earth with water and allow the water to destroy men.....UPON the face of the earth.
35) Remember...? That tid-bit, regarding a few people...exactly 8 people...
8 faithful believing and committed unto God ... people?
36) DID GOD LEAVE those 8 (faithful and committed) people ON the FACE of the EARTH, to be Destroyed BY Gods Tribulation of Water sent to destroy everything ON the face of the earth.

37) A resounding...No. God DID NOT Leave those 8 (faithful and committed) people ON the Face of the Earth, to be Go Through or Be Destroyed BY Water.
38) Those 8 ENTERED INTO the Ark.
39) Those 8 WERE RAISED UP above the face of the earth.
40) Those 8 WERE RAISED UP SO HIGH they were IN the Clouds ABOVE the mountain tops.
41) Those 8 WERE Returned to a Cleansed Earth.

Nothing new my friend. Men MADE wholly, whole, holy...according to Gods ORDER and WAY...offering...and men who TAKE and Accept His Offering...
ARE excepted FROM BEING ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH, WHEN God SENDS His wrath and tribulations UPON the Face of the Earth against all unrighteousness and men who hold HIS Truth in unrighteousness.


7 Seals, 7 Trumps, 7 Vials......are series one by one of Gods Tribulations.
Men UPON the face of the Earth, May experience a FEW or ALL.
Men UPON the face of the Earth, During the Seals and Trumps (If still bodily ALIVE, can Choose to Believe, Choose to commit, and Choose to Give their bodily life unto Death, For their Love of God. At any time, they can be bodily killed. Their urgency to COMMIT, is no different than a man today, who knows not the day his body shall physically die.


Men who HAVE “entered INTO Christ” ARE excepted FROM experiencing WRATH and Gods Tribulations He shall SEND Down upon the Earth.

In short, that is called.....the RAPTURE...meaning those who ENTER IN Christ shall be raised UP above the face of the earth....SAME as those 8 who ENTERED IN the Ark WERE raised UP above the face of the earth.


Glory to God,
Taken