Could the mark of the beast actually be a literal mark?

[Marty fox]

What is the mark of the beast?

If it is a literal mark would that contradict scripture?

I do not believe that the mark of the beast is a physical literal mark if it is then it contradicts scripture. Revelation says that who ever has the mark will perish. That means that they can’t repent.

Revelation 14:9-12

9 A third angel followed them and said in a loud voice: “If anyone worships the beast and its image and receives its mark on their forehead or on their hand, 10 they, too, will drink the wine of God’s fury, which has been poured full strength into the cup of his wrath. They will be tormented with burning sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and of the Lamb. 11 And the smoke of their torment will rise for ever and ever. There will be no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and its image, or for anyone who receives the mark of its name.” 12 This calls for patient endurance on the part of the people of God who keep his commands and remain faithful to Jesus.

It even says that the mark is forced upon them

Revelation 13:16-17

16 It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads, 17 so that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name.

Why can't they repent?

If it said that they won't repent that would make sense but not that they can't repent.

This scripture proves that people can repent.

Romans 10:13

13 for, “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved

The only unforgivable sin is the constant rejection of the Holy Spirit.

Matthew 12:31-32

31 And so I tell you, every kind of sin and slander can be forgiven, but blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. 32 Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.

If someone took the mark out of fear and then repented and died for rejecting it wouldn't God forgive them? I believe yes but that is not what it says in Revelation but the bible doesn’t contradict itself so that tells us that it can't be a physical mark.

I believe that the mark represents what you are devoted to (the mark on the forehead) and what you do (the mark on the hand) just like in these scriptures about what God told the Jews.

Exodus 13:9

9 This observance will be for you like a sign on your hand and a reminder on your forehead that this law of the Lord is to be on your lips. For the Lord brought you out of Egypt with his mighty hand

Exodus 13:16

16 And it will be like a sign on your hand and a symbol on your forehead that the Lord brought us out of Egypt with his mighty hand

The marks and seals of God were not physical on the people in the above verses in Exodus or these next verses.

Revelation 7:3

“Do not harm the land or the sea or the trees until we put a seal on the foreheads of the servants of our God.”

and Ezekiel 9:4

4 and said to him, “Go throughout the city of Jerusalem and put a mark on the foreheads of those who grieve and lament over all the detestable things that are done in it.

God looks at where the heart is at not a physical mark or a decision out of fear if they couldn‘t repent why do they still live? God also would not contradict himself if someone realized that they made a mistake and called out to him he would have compassion on them.

Romans 10:13

for, "Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved."


If God would forgive the people who physically killed Jesus why would he not forgive someone who received the mark? Lets not forget that God forgave the apostle Paul who was persecuting the church.

I think that this shows that the mark of the beast is not a physical mark but something much deeper.

I think that John told the 7 churches the number of the beast name so that they would know who it was in their day. I believe that it was Nero representing the empire of Rome as Nero s name equaled the number 666. Why would John tell a first century church the number if it was a 21st century beast?

More verses that are promised to us.

Romans 10:9
If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved


John 3:16
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life


1John 1:9
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.


None of these verses add at the end unless you receive the mark of the beast.

 

[Enoch111]

If it is a literal mark would that contradict scripture?

No. That would CONFIRM Scripture.

 

[Marty fox]

No. That would CONFIRM Scripture.

Actually it would contradict John 3:16

 

[Enoch111]

Actually it would contradict John 3:16

Taking John 3:16 out of context will not help your case one iota. Stick to the facts and stick to Bible revelation. A literal mark will be used by the Antichrist to control the world. We can already see how the bogus vaccinations are a prelude to that. Governments are using both the carrot and the stick to compel the lethal injections into the whole population. Children have been targeted for death and disability. The Antichrist will target everyone for Hell.

 

[Marty fox]

Taking John 3:16 out of context will not help your case one iota. Stick to the facts and stick to Bible revelation. A literal mark will be used by the Antichrist to control the world. We can already see how the bogus vaccinations are a prelude to that. Governments are using both the carrot and the stick to compel the lethal injections into the whole population. Children have been targeted for death and disability. The Antichrist will target everyone for Hell.

But if anyone who takes the mark can’t repent how can John 3:16 stand?

See what I’m getting at? The mark is a constant unrepentant devotion to the beast

 

[David H.]

The Mark of the Beast is a test of Your Belief, It is the Adversary accusing the brethren before the heavenly court much like he did with Job. It is a test of our (the church's faith) in the providence of God to enter the Promised Land. Take the time to read Hebrews chapters 3- 4 to see this.

Most Christians like the nation of Israel that was saved out of the Egypt did not fully believe in the providence of God and were destined to live in the wilderness and never enter the Holy land, Only Caleb and Joshua did for they lived in full belief.

The question is do you love your life more than death? Or will you love not your life unto death? Most will choose to preserve their life and worship the beast, which is the element you are missing in your understanding of the mark, and in doing so they are committing the unpardonable sin.

 

[Desire Of All Nations]

The mark will definitely not be something physical because Rev. 14:9-12 and 20:4 juxtaposes the people who refuse the mark as people who keep God's commandments and believe what He says against the people in this world who engage in false religion. And since Rom. 7:14 says the 10 commandments are a spiritual law, it stands to reason Satan's mark will be something that is spiritual in nature as well since he counterfeits everything God does.

Ofc people who usually refuse to believe what the word of God says will continue subscribing to their own theology about a vaccine, microchip, or some other thing that lacks any power to condemn somebody as being the mark, but that's why they'll end up being among the people who are deceived into accepting the real mark.

 

[Timtofly]

What is the mark of the beast?

If it is a literal mark would that contradict scripture?

I do not believe that the mark of the beast is a physical literal mark if it is then it contradicts scripture. Revelation says that who ever has the mark will perish. That means that they can’t repent.

Revelation 14:9-12

9 A third angel followed them and said in a loud voice: “If anyone worships the beast and its image and receives its mark on their forehead or on their hand, 10 they, too, will drink the wine of God’s fury, which has been poured full strength into the cup of his wrath. They will be tormented with burning sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and of the Lamb. 11 And the smoke of their torment will rise for ever and ever. There will be no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and its image, or for anyone who receives the mark of its name.” 12 This calls for patient endurance on the part of the people of God who keep his commands and remain faithful to Jesus.

It even says that the mark is forced upon them

Revelation 13:16-17

16 It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads, 17 so that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name.

Why can't they repent?

If it said that they won't repent that would make sense but not that they can't repent.

This scripture proves that people can repent.

Romans 10:13

13 for, “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved

The only unforgivable sin is the constant rejection of the Holy Spirit.

Matthew 12:31-32

31 And so I tell you, every kind of sin and slander can be forgiven, but blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. 32 Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.

If someone took the mark out of fear and then repented and died for rejecting it wouldn't God forgive them? I believe yes but that is not what it says in Revelation but the bible doesn’t contradict itself so that tells us that it can't be a physical mark.

I believe that the mark represents what you are devoted to (the mark on the forehead) and what you do (the mark on the hand) just like in these scriptures about what God told the Jews.

Exodus 13:9

9 This observance will be for you like a sign on your hand and a reminder on your forehead that this law of the Lord is to be on your lips. For the Lord brought you out of Egypt with his mighty hand

Exodus 13:16

16 And it will be like a sign on your hand and a symbol on your forehead that the Lord brought us out of Egypt with his mighty hand

The marks and seals of God were not physical on the people in the above verses in Exodus or these next verses.

Revelation 7:3

“Do not harm the land or the sea or the trees until we put a seal on the foreheads of the servants of our God.”

and Ezekiel 9:4

4 and said to him, “Go throughout the city of Jerusalem and put a mark on the foreheads of those who grieve and lament over all the detestable things that are done in it.

God looks at where the heart is at not a physical mark or a decision out of fear if they couldn‘t repent why do they still live? God also would not contradict himself if someone realized that they made a mistake and called out to him he would have compassion on them.

Romans 10:13

for, "Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved."


If God would forgive the people who physically killed Jesus why would he not forgive someone who received the mark? Lets not forget that God forgave the apostle Paul who was persecuting the church.

I think that this shows that the mark of the beast is not a physical mark but something much deeper.

I think that John told the 7 churches the number of the beast name so that they would know who it was in their day. I believe that it was Nero representing the empire of Rome as Nero s name equaled the number 666. Why would John tell a first century church the number if it was a 21st century beast?

More verses that are promised to us.

Romans 10:9
If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved


John 3:16
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life


1John 1:9
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.


None of these verses add at the end unless you receive the mark of the beast.

The mark will be physical.

These people can never repent. They have been marked and removed from the Lamb's book of life. They are marked so others can avoid them at all cost. If they were not marked, how would seekers of the truth avoid them? The unrepentant can not help anyone, but their own selfish wicked desires.

 

[Timtofly]

But if anyone who takes the mark can’t repent how can John 3:16 stand?

See what I’m getting at? The mark is a constant unrepentant devotion to the beast

John 3:16 stands because many can still get their head chopped off by faith, so as to avoid receiving the mark by God. The mark shows to all, that someone has literally chosen condemnation upon themselves.

 

[Marty fox]

John 3:16 stands because many can still get their head chopped off by faith, so as to avoid receiving the mark by God. The mark shows to all, that someone has literally chosen condemnation upon themselves.

John 3:16 can’t stand if people can’t repent of the mark if the mark is a literal mark

 

[Daniel Veler]

If you knew who the beast was and is then you’d understand the mark. It is explained in Revelation. Ask God for wisdom to understand.

 

[quietthinker]

What is the mark of the beast?

If it is a literal mark would that contradict scripture?

I do not believe that the mark of the beast is a physical literal mark if it is then it contradicts scripture. Revelation says that who ever has the mark will perish. That means that they can’t repent.

Revelation 14:9-12

9 A third angel followed them and said in a loud voice: “If anyone worships the beast and its image and receives its mark on their forehead or on their hand, 10 they, too, will drink the wine of God’s fury, which has been poured full strength into the cup of his wrath. They will be tormented with burning sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and of the Lamb. 11 And the smoke of their torment will rise for ever and ever. There will be no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and its image, or for anyone who receives the mark of its name.” 12 This calls for patient endurance on the part of the people of God who keep his commands and remain faithful to Jesus.

It even says that the mark is forced upon them

Revelation 13:16-17

16 It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads, 17 so that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name.

Why can't they repent?

If it said that they won't repent that would make sense but not that they can't repent.

This scripture proves that people can repent.

Romans 10:13

13 for, “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved

The only unforgivable sin is the constant rejection of the Holy Spirit.

Matthew 12:31-32

31 And so I tell you, every kind of sin and slander can be forgiven, but blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. 32 Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.

If someone took the mark out of fear and then repented and died for rejecting it wouldn't God forgive them? I believe yes but that is not what it says in Revelation but the bible doesn’t contradict itself so that tells us that it can't be a physical mark.

I believe that the mark represents what you are devoted to (the mark on the forehead) and what you do (the mark on the hand) just like in these scriptures about what God told the Jews.

Exodus 13:9

9 This observance will be for you like a sign on your hand and a reminder on your forehead that this law of the Lord is to be on your lips. For the Lord brought you out of Egypt with his mighty hand

Exodus 13:16

16 And it will be like a sign on your hand and a symbol on your forehead that the Lord brought us out of Egypt with his mighty hand

The marks and seals of God were not physical on the people in the above verses in Exodus or these next verses.

Revelation 7:3

“Do not harm the land or the sea or the trees until we put a seal on the foreheads of the servants of our God.”

and Ezekiel 9:4

4 and said to him, “Go throughout the city of Jerusalem and put a mark on the foreheads of those who grieve and lament over all the detestable things that are done in it.

God looks at where the heart is at not a physical mark or a decision out of fear if they couldn‘t repent why do they still live? God also would not contradict himself if someone realized that they made a mistake and called out to him he would have compassion on them.

Romans 10:13

for, "Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved."


If God would forgive the people who physically killed Jesus why would he not forgive someone who received the mark? Lets not forget that God forgave the apostle Paul who was persecuting the church.

I think that this shows that the mark of the beast is not a physical mark but something much deeper.

I think that John told the 7 churches the number of the beast name so that they would know who it was in their day. I believe that it was Nero representing the empire of Rome as Nero s name equaled the number 666. Why would John tell a first century church the number if it was a 21st century beast?

More verses that are promised to us.

Romans 10:9
If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved


John 3:16
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life


1John 1:9
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.


None of these verses add at the end unless you receive the mark of the beast.

If we say of a person, 'he is a marked man' do we then go to great lengths determining what the mark is?? Of course not, we know exactly what the idiom means without spinning off into some ego driven interpretation.

How is it when the scripture uses this language we are rendered clueless indicated by attempting to establish what it is.
We load the pages with truck loads of scripture but still stumble around in the dark. How can that be??

 

[MatthewG]

Was reading the Revelation last night. When the beast had came into power and people receiving the mark of the beast. They had mark on their right hand, or forehead which in the context the people there had heard about God, and the Lord Jesus Christ but instead had turned away unto worshiping the beast whom was a Man. (Nero Caesar), the mark on their right hand or forehead was not a literal mark as you already understand it but it is was an allegiance of following Nero; over God. Eventually the Roman Government came into destroying Jerusalem for the second and final time when the Lord had returned to receive the bride of the 144,000 who where Jewish virgins who had no deceit in their mouth nor defiled themselves with women. (There is still much of the Revelation I can not fully articulate but it was nice to go back and read some of it again).

 

[Brakelite]

The beast and Jesus are enemies. Both have marks. The seal of God is in the forehead of God's people by the time of Christ's coming. That seal is not a physical mark... The forehead is the seat of the mind... It is where we conscientiously choose whom we serve... Christ or Satan.
Those who are in the end saved, have their Father's name in the forehead... In their mind. Names reflect character. Those sealed have God's character. They have been fully converted into the image of Christ. This character is revealed in obedience to God's Commandments. See Revelation 12:17, 14:12.

The mark of the beast is the exact opposite. It is also a reflection of character. Those having the character of Satan and the beast have accepted a form of worship in contradiction and a counterfeit to God's Commandments, but in harmony with the beast's worship and in accordance with his commandments.
In vain do they worship Me, teaching as doctrine the commandments and traditions of man.

 

[michaelvpardo]

You need to understand the "mark" of the law of Moses in order to have a clue about the mark of the beast.
6 “And these words which I command you today shall be in your heart. 7 You shall teach them diligently to your children, and shall talk of them when you sit in your house, when you walk by the way, when you lie down, and when you rise up. 8 You shall bind them as a sign on your hand, and they shall be as frontlets between your eyes. 9 You shall write them on the doorposts of your house and on your gates. Deuteronomy 6:6-9
To this day orthodox Jews bind their arms and foreheads with ritual devices holding parts of the law, having interpreted Moses carnally rather than spiritually.
Satan wants to build his own utopian kingdom free of the influence of God and Christ. The lawlessness we see in the world will lead to the population crying out for peace and safety where there is none, and someone will respond with a law and the power to enforce it. You shouldn't be surprised by what people will do to stay alive.

 

[Truth7t7]

The beast and Jesus are enemies. Both have marks. The seal of God is in the forehead of God's people by the time of Christ's coming. That seal is not a physical mark... The forehead is the seat of the mind... It is where we conscientiously choose whom we serve... Christ or Satan.
Those who are in the end saved, have their Father's name in the forehead... In their mind. Names reflect character. Those sealed have God's character. They have been fully converted into the image of Christ. This character is revealed in obedience to God's Commandments. See Revelation 12:17, 14:12.

The mark of the beast is the exact opposite. It is also a reflection of character. Those having the character of Satan and the beast have accepted a form of worship in contradiction and a counterfeit to God's Commandments, but in harmony with the beast's worship and in accordance with his commandments.
In vain do they worship Me, teaching as doctrine the commandments and traditions of man.

I Agree, The Seal Of God Is Spiritual, The Mind Being Sealed By God The Holy Spirit

All saved believers are (Sealed) by God, Eph 1:13, 4:30

Ephesians 1:13KJV
13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

Ephesians 4:30KJV
30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.

Revelation 22:4KJV
4 And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

What is the mark of the beast?

If it is a literal mark would that contradict scripture?

I do not believe that the mark of the beast is a physical literal mark if it is then it contradicts scripture. Revelation says that who ever has the mark will perish. That means that they can’t repent.

Revelation 14:9-12

9 A third angel followed them and said in a loud voice: “If anyone worships the beast and its image and receives its mark on their forehead or on their hand, 10 they, too, will drink the wine of God’s fury, which has been poured full strength into the cup of his wrath. They will be tormented with burning sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and of the Lamb. 11 And the smoke of their torment will rise for ever and ever. There will be no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and its image, or for anyone who receives the mark of its name.” 12 This calls for patient endurance on the part of the people of God who keep his commands and remain faithful to Jesus.

It even says that the mark is forced upon them

Revelation 13:16-17

16 It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads, 17 so that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name.

Why can't they repent?

If it said that they won't repent that would make sense but not that they can't repent.

This scripture proves that people can repent.

Romans 10:13

13 for, “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved

The only unforgivable sin is the constant rejection of the Holy Spirit.

Matthew 12:31-32

31 And so I tell you, every kind of sin and slander can be forgiven, but blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. 32 Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.

If someone took the mark out of fear and then repented and died for rejecting it wouldn't God forgive them? I believe yes but that is not what it says in Revelation but the bible doesn’t contradict itself so that tells us that it can't be a physical mark.

I believe that the mark represents what you are devoted to (the mark on the forehead) and what you do (the mark on the hand) just like in these scriptures about what God told the Jews.

Exodus 13:9

9 This observance will be for you like a sign on your hand and a reminder on your forehead that this law of the Lord is to be on your lips. For the Lord brought you out of Egypt with his mighty hand

Exodus 13:16

16 And it will be like a sign on your hand and a symbol on your forehead that the Lord brought us out of Egypt with his mighty hand

The marks and seals of God were not physical on the people in the above verses in Exodus or these next verses.

Revelation 7:3

“Do not harm the land or the sea or the trees until we put a seal on the foreheads of the servants of our God.”

and Ezekiel 9:4

4 and said to him, “Go throughout the city of Jerusalem and put a mark on the foreheads of those who grieve and lament over all the detestable things that are done in it.

God looks at where the heart is at not a physical mark or a decision out of fear if they couldn‘t repent why do they still live? God also would not contradict himself if someone realized that they made a mistake and called out to him he would have compassion on them.

Romans 10:13

for, "Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved."


If God would forgive the people who physically killed Jesus why would he not forgive someone who received the mark? Lets not forget that God forgave the apostle Paul who was persecuting the church.

I think that this shows that the mark of the beast is not a physical mark but something much deeper.

I think that John told the 7 churches the number of the beast name so that they would know who it was in their day. I believe that it was Nero representing the empire of Rome as Nero s name equaled the number 666. Why would John tell a first century church the number if it was a 21st century beast?

More verses that are promised to us.

Romans 10:9
If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved


John 3:16
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life


1John 1:9
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.


None of these verses add at the end unless you receive the mark of the beast.

To defend your position you falsely equate other scriptures with the mark. the mark is a literal mark.

The word mark is charagma which mean an imprint or a stamped mark. Just because other "marks" are used with comparative language to let us know they were not literal marks, do not say that one mark that is literal is the same.

 

[Marty fox]

To defend your position you falsely equate other scriptures with the mark. the mark is a literal mark.

The word mark is charagma which mean an imprint or a stamped mark. Just because other "marks" are used with comparative language to let us know they were not literal marks, do not say that one mark that is literal is the same.

So do you think that someone could take the literal mark and John 3:16 wouldn't apply to them?

 

[Ronald Nolette]

So do you think that someone could take the literal mark and John 3:16 wouldn't apply to them?

If one is born again they will not take the Mark. The church will not be on earth to even consider taking the mark. I believe in eternal security ,m even for teh tribulation saints (which like the OT saints are not part of the church) but I could be wrong about the trib saints. I personally believe anyone who has received Christ during the tribulation will not take the mark, but I cannot be absolute on it. To me it is like a church saint openly denying Jesus. I just don't think once saved one can do that.

 

[Marty fox]

If one is born again they will not take the Mark. The church will not be on earth to even consider taking the mark. I believe in eternal security ,m even for teh tribulation saints (which like the OT saints are not part of the church) but I could be wrong about the trib saints. I personally believe anyone who has received Christ during the tribulation will not take the mark, but I cannot be absolute on it. To me it is like a church saint openly denying Jesus. I just don't think once saved one can do that.

Im not talking about Christians taking the mark I’m talking about non Christians. If someone takes the mark (if a literal mark) not knowing what exactly it is only to feed their family and then realizes what it is of course God would let them repent because He is the God of John 3:16.

If Paul could repent from persecuting the church then God would forgive them