Creation of All People Except Adam and Eve

[Rocky Wiley]

We have from an early age been told there is only one creation, why is that? Because that is what we were taught in Sunday School.

Let us go thru this in some detail

Gen 1
God said: Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:
Who could God be talking to? Not himself, he has to be talking to someone that he wants input from. Who is available? Angels! The angels are not the creators but they can offer input, they surely did since we have many races and types of people.

Gen 2
God and God only formed (not created) Adam, the man named Adam by God. This man
was also given the breath of life; and this man became a living soul.

Gen 1
God told the mankind created to go and replenish the earth. Replenish means bring forth something that once was.

Gen 2 God placed Adam in a garden - what we would call a farm.

Gen 1 God created all the animals of the earth, wild animals.

Gen 2 God formed the animals of the field, farm animals.

God looked for a helpmeet for Adam. Was he looking for an animal? No, he was
looking for a woman created in Gen 1.
When none were found God took a rib from Adam and formed Eve.

Who do you think Cain took for a wife? A female created in Gen 1.

Although this is so clear to see, one must accept something that they were never taught in Sunday School.










Gen 2 God took a rib from Adam and formed a helper - Eve

 

[justbyfaith]

Actually, Adam and Eve had other sons and daughters according to Genesis, some of whom had never eaten the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil (see Genesis 3:20; compare chronology in Genesis 4:1)...elves. Therefore Cain's offspring may have indeed been half-elven.

Just a conjecture; don't go overboard with it!

 

[theophilus]

God told the mankind created to go and replenish the earth. Replenish means bring forth something that once was.

When we read the Bible in English we are reading a translation and sometimes a word used in a translation doesn't have exactly the same meaning as the word used in the original language. Here is how the ESV translates that command.

And God blessed them. And God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth and subdue it, and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over every living thing that moves on the earth.”

Genesis 1 describes the creation of the world, including a mention of Adam and Eve. Chapter 2 is a detailed account of the creation of Adam and Eve. Here is an explanation of the differences between the two accounts. Don't Genesis 1 and 2 present contradictory creation accounts? | CARM.org

Making Eve from Adam's rib might not have occurred in the way most people imagine it did. Adam’s rib

 

[theophilus]

Actually, Adam and Eve had other sons and daughters according to Genesis, some of whom had never eaten the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil (see Genesis 3:20; compare chronology in Genesis 4:1)...elves. Therefore Cain's offspring may have indeed been half-elven.

Just a conjecture; don't go overboard with it!

None of the children ate of the fruit. Adam and Eve were expelled from the garden so they had no access to it. But they all suffered the results. They were born sinners and all eventually died. And Genesis says nothing about elves. Cain married one of his sisters. Where did Cain get his wife? | CARM.org

 

[Enoch111]

Who do you think Cain took for a wife? A female created in Gen 1.

You are still hung up on Cain's wife (a total non-issue). And whatever you were taught in Sunday School was according to what is revealed in the Bible. Then we have the Serpent Seed nonsense promoted by false teachers. Perhaps you can adopt that idea also.

 

[justbyfaith]

None of the children ate of the fruit. Adam and Eve were expelled from the garden so they had no access to it. But they all suffered the results. They were born sinners and all eventually died. And Genesis says nothing about elves. Cain married one of his sisters. Where did Cain get his wife? | CARM.org

Eve was said to be the mother of all living before Cain was born. I conclude that there were children born without the sin-DNA that came from eating of the tree. Cain was born (spiritually) dead.

 

[101G]

None of the children ate of the fruit. Adam and Eve were expelled from the garden so they had no access to it. But they all suffered the results. They were born sinners and all eventually died. And Genesis says nothing about elves. Cain married one of his sisters. Where did Cain get his wife? | CARM.org

I must agree with Justbyfaith on that Adam and Eve had sons and daughters before thay sinned in the Garden of eden. here's why I say this, Eve experience pregnancy before she and her husband was put out of the Garden. scripture, Genesis 3:16 "Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee."
here "conception" is the Hebrew word, H2032 הֵרוֹן herown (hay-rone') n-m. הֵרָיוֹן herayown (hay-raw-yone') which means,
pregnancy.
[from H2029]
KJV: conception.
Root(s): H2029

and God said that he would increase/multiply her "sorrow" which is the Hebrew word, H6093 עִצָּבוֹן `itstsabown (its-tsaw-ɓone') n-m. meaning,
worrisomeness, i.e. labor or pain.
[from H6087]
KJV: sorrow, toil.
Root(s): H6087

well one cannot increase something that has not happen. so in oder to increae her "Labor Pains" in pregnancy she had to have alreay had it. so that bit of Information reveals where Cain got his wife from and it reveals who the sons of God are in Chapter 6, and who the other people was in chapter 4 who Cain was afraid of that might kill him. a little bit of information like that reveals a lot.

now as for sinning, not all sin as Adam did, supportive scripture, Romans 5:13 "(For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law."
Romans 5:14 "Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come."

so there was some offspring from Adam that did not "sin", after him.

PICJAG

 

[101G]

Eve was said to be the mother of all living before Cain was born. I conclude that there were children born without the sin-DNA that came from eating of the tree. Cain was born (spiritually) dead.

yes, there is two lines from Adam. the Children that was born in the Garden before the fall into sin, and the line that came in sin after the fall. hence the meeting of the sons of God and the Daughter of men.

a rightious line meeting and marrying into an unrightious line, and when that happen "TOTAL" corruption. hence the flood.

PICJAG.

 

[101G]

Let us go thru this in some detail

Gen 1
God said: Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:
Who could God be talking to? Not himself, he has to be talking to someone that he wants input from. Who is available? Angels! The angels are not the creators but they can offer input, they surely did since we have many races and types of people.

first thanks for the topic. but God was speaking of or about himself to come in flesh... his IMAGE, (Roman 5:14b). and since all time is one, or no time for God, he spoke, as it was already done, or was the first prophet to tell us of what he was doing, and about to do, in the coming future.
Example, Romans 4:17 "(As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were."

and the very next verse in Genesis 1:27, prove this by his "singularity" in making man, his Image to come.

you learn something new about God everyday.

PICJAG.

 

[Helen]

Actually, Adam and Eve had other sons and daughters according to Genesis, some of whom had never eaten the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil (see Genesis 3:20; compare chronology in Genesis 4:1)...elves. Therefore Cain's offspring may have indeed been half-elven.

Just a conjecture; don't go overboard with it!

Hi there
You mention that Adam and Eve had other children who had not eaten the forbidden fruit.

I have never heard that take on it before, because in my book, after Adam and Eve ate they were 'driven out' and angels with flaming swords guarded the way to Eden.
I have never read that anyone was allowed to remain in Eden after A & E were cast out!!

Blessings...Helen

 

[justbyfaith]

Hi there
You mention that Adam and Eve had other children who had not eaten the forbidden fruit.

I have never heard that take on it before, because in my book, after Adam and Eve ate they were 'driven out' and angels with flaming swords guarded the way to Eden.
I have never read that anyone was allowed to remain in Eden after A & E were cast out!!

Blessings...Helen

It's purely speculation, but interesting to contemplate.

 

[Rocky Wiley]

When we read the Bible in English we are reading a translation and sometimes a word used in a translation doesn't have exactly the same meaning as the word used in the original language. Here is how the ESV translates that command.

And God blessed them. And God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth and subdue it, and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over every living thing that moves on the earth.”
Hebrew word
'erets
eh'-rets
From an unused root probably meaning to be firm; the earth

Hebrew word
field
saw-deh', saw-dah'ee
From an unused root meaning to spread out; a field (as flat): - country, field, ground, land, soil, X wild.

Gen 2:5 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth

Gen 2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field,

Gen 2:20 And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field;

There is a difference between earth and field, that is why it is used in scripture.

 

[justbyfaith]

The message of what the Lord wants to convey is never lost in translation (especially in the kjv).

 

[Rocky Wiley]

first thanks for the topic. but God was speaking of or about himself to come in flesh... his IMAGE, (Roman 5:14b). and since all time is one, or no time for God, he spoke, as it was already done, or was the first prophet to tell us of what he was doing, and about to do, in the coming future.
Example, Romans 4:17 "(As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were."

and the very next verse in Genesis 1:27, prove this by his "singularity" in making man, his Image to come.

you learn something new about God everyday.

PICJAG.

That is a stretch to say that Jesus was talking to himself. He surely had angels around him. To ask for input from his angels is logical because of different races that will be created.

I have found that if it makes sense it is usually correct. Creating the different races makes sense, since God told them to go and replenish the earth.

We know that every continent has a different race from the other. Why would one want to bring up a form of evolution into play.

 

[101G]

That is a stretch to say that Jesus was talking to himself. He surely had angels around him. To ask for input from his angels is logical because of different races that will be created.

I have found that if it makes sense it is usually correct. Creating the different races makes sense, since God told them to go and replenish the earth.

We know that every continent has a different race from the other. Why would one want to bring up a form of evolution into play.

first thank for your reply, second, have you not talked to yourself before? and even written it down, memo... tasks to do... ect.... is that a too far stretch?

understand, God who is Eternal span all time he say and call thing that has not happen in our lifetime. we must think "Spiritual", think from from God prospective sometimes.

thanks for the reply.

PICJAG.

 

[Rocky Wiley]

first thank for your reply, second, have you not talked to yourself before? and even written it down, memo... tasks to do... ect.... is that a too far stretch?

understand, God who is Eternal span all time he say and call thing that has not happen in our lifetime. we must think "Spiritual", think from from God prospective sometimes.

thanks for the reply.

PICJAG.

Where did the different races come from? You still make evolution seem to be your thinking.

 

[101G]

Where did the different races come from? You still make evolution seem to be your thinking.

they came from one blood, and that blood was in Noah and his sons, Genesis 9:1 "And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth."

PICJAG.

 

[Rocky Wiley]

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[Rocky Wiley]

they came from one blood, and that blood was in Noah and his sons, Genesis 9:1 "And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth."

PICJAG.

Now you speak as if you believe the flood was world wide. Jesus told the Pharisees their father was the wicked one, Cain.

 

[101G]

Now you speak as if you believe the flood was world wide. Jesus told the Pharisees their father was the wicked one, Cain.

First thanks for the reply, second, yelp, were people was at the flood got them, because, Genesis 9:18 "And the sons of Noah, that went forth of the ark, were Shem, and Ham, and Japheth: and Ham is the father of Canaan."
Genesis 9:19 "These are the three sons of Noah: and of them was the whole earth overspread."

the "whole Earth", that got all.

PICJAG.