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Current COVID-19 Death Rate: 18% (1 out of 6 WILL DIE)

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  1. Base12

    Base12 Active Member

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    For those that would like to know the absolute Bottom Line in this current Global Pandemic situation, the numbers you need to be focusing on are the Closed Cases, not the Active Cases.

    You can see that number here...

    Coronavirus Update (Live): 458,664 Cases and 20,799 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Outbreak - Worldometer

    Look for this...

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    As of the time of this post, 15% of those that contract COVID-19 end up dead.

    That is roughly 1 out of every 7 people.

    Still think it's a 'hoax' or 'over hyped'?

    Again, One must look at the Case Fatality Rate. The CFR is the ONLY accurate number we have to determine how dangerous this is. Until this Pandemic runs its course, all other numbers and calculations are just speculation.

    Definitions of CFR

    "Case fatality rate, also called case fatality ratio, in epidemiology, the proportion of people who die from a specified disease among all individuals diagnosed with the disease over a certain period of time."

    Case fatality rate | epidemiology

    In addition, there are many studies out there that show this to be a Bio-Weapon with an HIV insert. There are also so called 'studies' that claim it's not a Bio-Weapon.

    Believe what you want, but it should be obvious by looking at the CFR who is telling us the Truth.

    Good luck everyone.
     
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    Death rate is now 16%.
     
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    All the reason to get the gospel out there so that as many get to heaven as possible.
     
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    ... prepare your household.

    An interesting aspect of air-travel is that when traveling with small children and experiencing sudden loss of cabin pressure, the oxygen masks drop and WE (the adults) ARE INSTRUCTED to put on our mask BEFORE tending to the children. -- The reason being that in a worse case scenario you can assist/revive your children, but they can't assist/revive you.

    So don't worry about the unsaved. Your FIRST PRIORITY is your spouse, then your children, then your extended family, and finally your "neighbor". -- And DON'T EVER confuse your priorities. Too many pastors make that mistake to the detriment of their family.


    Bobby Jo
     
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    This is worse than watching the news.
    Why don't we talk about all the people that are still alive and enjoying life
    instead of being a HARBINGER OF DEATH AND DOOM - DON'T YOU KNOW GOD IS IN CONTROL.

    The sky is not falling CHICKEN LITTLE and we are the children of God, so stop this ridiculous nonsense of PREACHING HERACY AGAINST GODS WORD.

    Philippians 4: 6-7, "Be anxious for nothing, but in EVERYTHING by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your request be made known to GOD,
    and the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding will guard your heart and mind in Christ Jesus."

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    We should be praising God for this WORLDWIDE CALAMITY that gives every Christianity the chance to be courageous and tell of Gods GOODNESS to every person who will listen and be saved.

    James 1:2, "Consider it all joy my brethren, when you encounter various trials,
    knowing that the testing of your faith produces endurance, and let that endurance have it's perfect result, that toy may be perfect and complete, lacking in NOTHING.

    THIS SHOULD BE SHUT DOWN.

    You are mis-lead in your purpose here, whatever that is.

    Let's all praise JESUS and be grateful for our GODLT COURAGEOUS FAITH.

    My faith in JESUS isn't about whether I live or die or that those I love live or die, my Faith is the same as JESUS, LORD, YOUR WILL BE DONE and LET US SPEAK CHRIST IN JOY TO THOSE WHO MAY BE SAVED.
     
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  8. Bobby Jo

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    YES HE IS:

    Rev. 6:8 And I saw, and behold, a pale horse, and its rider’s name was Death, and Hades followed him; and they were given power over a fourth of the earth, to kill with sword and with famine and with pestilence and by wild beasts of the earth.

    Keep watching ... it's even better than "Family Feud"!!!
    Bobby Jo
     
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    I still have a problem with the accuracy of the reporting. -- If people HALF of the people infected with the virus either aren't showing symptoms, or have minor symptoms and don't see a doctor, and aren't included in the number of "Cases", then your 20% is now 10%. Conversely, if China is significantly UNDER REPORTING, then the 10% could be 30%.

    Presently Italy's death rate is 10% and it will be interesting to see where it goes from here.

    Bobby Jo
     
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    You are continuing to post false and misleading information (just like the evil MSM).

    The proper and correct way to show how many died from any infection is to first of all know how many were actually infected. Not just those who showed up at a hospital (which is what confirmed cases is all about).

    If 100 were infected, and only 20 showed up at a hospital, and out of those 20, there were 10 who recovered, and 2 who died, what is the actual death rate?
     
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    You spotted what is a big problem with the statistics we have to work with. I think what happened on the ship the Diamond Princess may give us a clue about how deadly the virus really is. There everyone was living in fairly close proximity. Even if they were staying in their own cabins, they all shared the same source of air; and they all had been interacting with each other before the first cases were spotted. I hope no one objects to my using Wikipedia as a source.

    2020 coronavirus pandemic on cruise ships - Wikipedia

    A total of 4061 people got tested. The number of people infected was 696 with 410 cases so mild the people didn't show any symptoms. The number of deaths reported so far stands at 11.

    I was surprised the infection rate wasn't higher. Only about 17% of the people caught it. This lends some credence to the idea that if you're exposed to only a few viruses, your body can probably fight it off and build up immunity -- but if you're exposed to hundreds or thousands of viruses, they overwhelm the body's natural defenses. I'm not saying that's the case, but it looks that way.

    Notice too that the mortality rate is about 1.6%.

    Another factor to consider is age. From Wikipedia:

    Two passengers died on 20 February and a third on 23 February, all three of whom were Japanese citizens in their 80s. A fourth passenger, an elderly Japanese man, was reported on 25 February to have died. The fifth fatality, a Japanese woman in her 70s, and the sixth fatality, a British national in his 70s, both died on 28 February. A 78-year-old Australian national, who was evacuated from the ship, died on 1 March in Australia, making him the seventh. A Hong Kong national from the ship died on 6 March, making him the eighth. A Canadian man in his 70s died on 19 March, making him the ninth coronavirus-related death from the ship. Two Japanese passengers in their 70s died on 22 March making them the 10th and 11th death.

    So of the 11 deaths, I see only one whose age isn't given at Wikipedia. The rest were elderly. Again I admit I could be wrong; but it looks to me as if younger people don't have as much to fear. The danger with young people is probably more having it without knowing it and passing it on to other people. Testing anyone known to have been exposed to it would probably be smart so the people who have non-symptomatic cases aren't infecting other people.
     
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    People are apt to repeat things they heard without stopping to think about whether a context is needed for numbers.
     
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    Please NEVER cite statistics.


    To All,
    What happened to the other 8? Were they "raptured"?
    Whew,
    Bobby Jo
     
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    Thanks everyone for visiting and commenting.

    Don't forget, current models show that the USA is still at least a 1/2 month away from the peak...

    IHME | COVID-19 Projections

    I suggest folks listen to this Woman who is on the Front Lines...

     
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    Actually your info is quite, quite off. The old models are gone and the new models off of our data not Europe shows that the peak will be in two weeks. Those working on the front lines may not see the light but the ones that see the new models do. Best not spread FUD like you do.
     
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    The good news though is even though many died, 13000+ have recovered now in Italy, 14,700+ have recovered in Spain, they are starting to see a lot recover in some European countries.

    How ever it doesn't sound too good for USA, while people may be saying 140,000 cases is only a small percentage, we gotta remember, USA has a massive population, it's one of the most populated countries in the world, and that number is a lot to other people, I don't even think they have reached their peak yet, they are still getting 15k+ cases a day or whatever it is.

    140,000 people with covid-19 in the USA, think about the scale of that, that's heaps.

    Even 33,946 deaths worldwide is still a lot of deaths. I think we should all show a bit of respect to all those who have lost loved ones to Covid-19. And pray for those that are hurting.

    I think in Australia, we may have avoided the worst, by introducing tough restrictions earlier on than others did.
     
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    God is still in control, so why do numbers matter here.
    My life belongs to Christ and I am told not to WORRY about anything Phil.4: 6-7.
    I see no positive point to any of this.
     
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    Base12: You really want viewers to believe this clip is from a genuine 'front-line' person. I don't. Listen to her calm tone, her voice, her gestures, how she keeps fiddling with her hair...then she nearly cries at the end...in a very fake way. She shows you a brown paper bag she supposedly uses to protect herself at work and yet she just waves it around at home and not concerned about any virus attached to it...did she disinfect it somehow I guess???lol

    And your death rates you keep adding on this site. Do you for a minute stop and think think that the official death counts are overly exaggerated and really attributed to many other assorted causes and natural diseases like pneumonia, Alzheimer's disease, heart conditions, or even counting living people as being a dead statistic? I do?

    Just saying, something to consider...

    Bless you.

    APAK
     
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