Daniel’s Prophecy Of The Anti-Christ Coming In The Form Of Iron + Clay In Nebuchadnezzars Dream!!

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(Dan 2:31-35) Daniel describes Nebuchadnezzar’s dream.

Daniel’s description was clear. This was a massive and spectacular image made of different materials (fine gold... silver... bronze... iron... partly of iron and partly of clay).

The materials descended in value from top to bottom, with gold at the top and iron mixed with clay at the bottom.

Broke them in pieces: This spectacular image was destroyed by a stone made without hands, and what remained of it was blown away like worthless chaff, while the stone became a great mountain and filled the whole earth. (Christ).

(Dan 2:36-45) The interpretation of the dream.

Now we will tell the interpretation: Daniel first accurately reported the content of Nebuchadnezzar’s dream. This gave Daniel credibility when explaining what the dream meant: the interpretation.

b. You are this head of gold: Nebuchadnezzar was clearly said to be the head of gold. After him would come three other kingdoms, each represented by the different materials Nebuchadnezzar saw in his dream. After the succession of kingdoms, then came the final kingdom set up by God.

“Nebuchadnezzar’s kingdom was likened unto gold because it was an absolute monarchy, God’s ideal government. Nebuchadnezzar was not, however, God’s ideal monarch!” (Talbot)

The dream is certain, and its interpretation is sure: This prophetic dream was clearly fulfilled in history.

i. Three dominating empires came after Babylon: Medo-Persia, Greece, and Rome. The nature of these empires was accurately reflected by the nature of the image Nebuchadnezzar saw in his dream.

ii. The empires succeeding Babylon were inferior to Nebuchadnezzar’s head of gold in the sense of their centralization of absolute power. Nebuchadnezzar was an absolute monarch, and the succeeding empires were progressively less so. They were larger and lasted longer than Babylon, but none held as much centralized power as Nebuchadnezzar did.

iii. “Babylon, the head of gold, was an absolute autocracy. Persia, a monarchial oligarchy with the nobles equal to the king in all but office, is represented by silver. Greece is set forth by brass, indicated the still lower value of it aristocracy of mind and influence... Rome, a democratic imperialism, with military dominion dependent upon the choice of army and citizenry and administered in the spirit of martial law, is set forth by iron.” (Newell)

iv. The third kingdom of bronze was the one which shall rule over all the earth. Indeed, Alexander’s Grecian Empire was the largest among those compared in the image (except the final government of the Messiah).

v. The Babylonian Empire stood for 66 years; the Medo-Persian Empire for 208 years; the Grecian Empire for 185 years, and the Roman Empire stood for more than 500 years.

vi. Liberal commentators do not believe that the fourth kingdom is Rome, but they say it is Greece, and that the second and third kingdoms are Media and Persia respectively, instead of the Medo-Persian Empire as a whole. They interpret this way because they believe it was impossible for Daniel to predict the rise of these empires.


In the days of these kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom which shall never be destroyed: This described the fulfillment of this prophecy in the future. The stone cut without hands shatters a confederation of kings, represented by the feet of the image, and then God’s Kingdom will dominate the earth.

i. Since Roman history provides no fulfillment of this federation of kings (which seems to number ten, because of the number of toes, and passages like Daniel 7:24 and Revelation 17:12) this prophecy must still be future.

ii. Since the fall of the Roman Empire, there has never been a world-dominating empire equal to Rome. Many have tried – the Huns, Islam, the so-called Holy Roman Empire, Napoleon, Hitler, Stalin – but none have succeeded. Each of these had amazing power and influence, but nothing compared to that of the Roman Empire. The Roman Empire, in some form or another, will be revived under the leadership of the final fallen dictator, the Antichrist.

iii. It broke in pieces the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver, and the gold: This described a single, decisive event that shattered the image representing the glory of man’s rule on earth. Since the Church or the Gospel have not, in a single decisive event, shattered the reign of human kingdoms, this event is still in the future.

iv. This isn’t the gradual salvation of the world by the church; “Smashing is not salvation. Crushing is not conversion. Destroying is not delivering nor is pulverizing the same as purification.” (Heslop)

v. This stone cut without hands is the Messiah, not the Church. Psalm 118:22, Isaiah 8:14, Isaiah 28:16, and Zechariah 3:9 also refer to Jesus as a stone.

vi. Therefore, the final superpower of the world is thought to be a revival of the Roman Empire, a continuation of this image. This will be the final world empire that the returning Jesus will conquer over.

e. The kingdom shall be partly strong and partly fragile: This final world empire will be according to the nature of clay mixed with iron. It will have more the image of true strength than the substance of strength.

i. As a whole, the image accurately represented human power and empire. The image seems invincible, but it was actually unstable at its base. Therefore one blow to the foundation could topple the whole thing.

ii. It’s also significant to see that the image described devolution, not evolution. Instead of man beginning in the dust and evolving into gold, this vision declares that man’s dominion begins with gold and devalues into dust.

iii. Some 40 years from this, Daniel had a vision describing the same succession of empires. Daniel saw it from God’s perspective, and Nebuchadnezzar saw it from man’s perspective. Nebuchadnezzar saw these empires as an impressive image; Daniel saw them as fierce beasts.

f. The dream is certain, and its interpretation is sure: Daniel didn’t guess or analyze. Through him God announced the future. The only reason that God can predict history is because he can control it.
 

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For prophecies concerning Babylon, we have to consider all of the prophecies written by the Prophets to come to a better understanding of what has been revealed over time and is recorded in History.

The Daniel 2 statue prophecy is focused on the dominions having control over the land of Babylon, which is why Nebuchadnezzar is the head of Gold because he was dreaming about what would follow with respect to the dominions having control over the land of Babylon. The control/dominion over the land of Babylon can be broken down into "people groups" or descendant families/nations and the first three families/nations groupings are obvious as they are written about in Daniel's prophecies, but the fourth "people group" is not revealed except in the Book of Revelation 16:17-21 when we are told that the Land of Babylon will be remembered once more during the time of great global wars on the earth.

Jeremiah in 50-51 tells us about what would happen in the land of Babylon and that the Grecian Empire would denude the Land of Babylon of its people and utilities, i.e. buildings etc. and that the land would be devastated and desolate for a period of two ages. Jer 50:39.

Therefore the understanding of the Statute prophecy in Daniel 2, was not completely revealed to us in the past ancient history of the earth, but only in the recent history of the last 100-150 years after "oil" became important for the transportation of people across the face of the earth. Jer 50:45-46 provides a description of what will happen at the demise of the Land of the Chaldeans.

Any commentary that claims who the people are that have had dominion over the land of the Chaldeans before the 20th centaury is not speaking about God's revelation and is only giving credence/substance to the political demonization to the influence of Rome and the RCC.

Babylon was remembered once more by the nations of the earth in the year 1926 by an agreement because of its oil when the Ottoman empire was divided up after WW1.

The five segments of the Daniel 2 Statue are:

1. Babylon
2. The Mede-Persian empire
3. The Grecian Empire and then when the Grecian was divided up by one of the divisions of that Grecian Empire.

Then there was a period of just over 2,000 years, i.e. two ages, while Babylon laid devastated and Desolated and was not inhabited.

4. Iraq which was raised up in 1926, and finally
5. The Coalition of the Willing nations that invaded Iraq in 2003.

It is during the time of the Coalition of the Willing nations/kings, that God will establish His Everlasting Kingdom here on the earth and that the Foundational truth, i.e. the rock not cut by any human hands, will come down out of heaven and it will smash the feet of the Statue so that it topples over and is not longer able to stand and the statue will be ground into chaff and will be blown away by the wind so that it will exist no more. How long it takes for the chaff to be created and blown away we are not told within the prophecies.

The last dominion over the Land of the Chaldeans can be described as the Coalition of the Willing with the King of the North leading the Coalition, being the president of the USA, into the invasion of Iraq.

Since 9/11 2001, the nations of the world are being drawn towards rising up against Jerusalem in a last ditched effort to trample the Sanctuary of God and His hosts here on the earth, but when they arrive at Armageddon they will be judged by God. This event is still around 25 or so years into our future.

Some of the facts in the scriptures are still hidden from many of us. Even with the revelation that some have received, it does not mean that all of the facts of the End Time Prophecies have been revealed to them/us as well.

Shalom