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Daniel 2:44

And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up akingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever. Lk 1:33 His kingdom shall have no end!


The new covenant church founded by Christ is this kingdom! For the church conquered the Roman Empire and all these kingdoms!
 

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The new covenant church founded by Christ is this kingdom! For the church conquered the Roman Empire and all these kingdoms!
Sorry, but you will need to do a lot more Bible study to understand the meaning of Christ's Kingdom on earth. While the Church (the Body of Christ) is a part of that Kingdom, there will be a literal, visible, tangible, physical and spiritual Kingdom of God on earth, after the Second Coming of Christ. Daniel speaks of this Kingdom several times. But Daniel makes no reference to the Church, since the Church was a Mystery hidden from Daniel and the OT prophets.
 
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Some how the millennial kingdom is going to break to pieces the Roman Empire that has not existed for 1500 years?
 

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Sorry, but you will need to do a lot more Bible study to understand the meaning of Christ's Kingdom on earth. While the Church (the Body of Christ) is a part of that Kingdom, there will be a literal, visible, tangible, physical and spiritual Kingdom of God on earth, after the Second Coming of Christ. Daniel speaks of this Kingdom several times. But Daniel makes no reference to the Church, since the Church was a Mystery hidden from Daniel and the OT prophets.

No Gods heavenly kingdom also called the Messianic kingdom is a heavenly kingdom that Jesus Christ has been made king of by his Father and God. Jesus Christ along with those who will be resurrected to heaven who also will be given immortality and inherit corruptionn will rule over Earth not on the Earth.
 

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Daniel 2:44

And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up akingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever. Lk 1:33 His kingdom shall have no end!


The new covenant church founded by Christ is this kingdom! For the church conquered the Roman Empire and all these kingdoms!
This text requires interpreting in its context. The text tells us that 'his kingdom' shall break in pieces and consume all 'these' kingdoms....' The word 'these' is referring to the other kingdoms spoken of in Daniel's interpretation of the image (metal man) that Nebuchadnezzer saw in his dream therefore, in context, it is telling us that when God's Kingdom is set up all these others are destroyed.

In short it is talking about the second coming of Jesus in the clouds. This is when all 'these' kingdoms will be destroyed.
 
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Each kingdom is destroys by its successive kingdom finally the Roman Empire is destroyed conquered by Christ and His church His kingdom! Lk 1:32-33
 

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Each kingdom is destroys by its successive kingdom finally the Roman Empire is destroyed conquered by Christ and His church His kingdom! Lk 1:32-33
The influence of all these kingdoms mentioned by Daniel exist in todays world. Their ideology is a witness, subsequently in that sense they still exist. When Jesus returns all this will be destroyed just as the Daniel 2 prophecy foretold.

Incidentally, the Roman Empire was not destroyed as such. Its authority was taken over by the Pontiffs. Its power is still in existence only under a different banner.

Did you know that the 'replicas' of the various apostles in the Vatican are none other than the heathen deities renamed?
 

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No Gods heavenly kingdom also called the Messianic kingdom is a heavenly kingdom that Jesus Christ has been made king of by his Father and God.
That is definitely not according to Daniel or according to the Bible. Here is what Daniel reveals (Dan 7:13,14; Rev 19:15):

THE EARTHLY KINGDOM OF GOD UNDER CHRIST
I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of Man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought Him near before Him. And there was given Him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve Him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed... And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

All people, nations, and languages will be on earth, not in Heaven.
 
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The influence of all these kingdoms mentioned by Daniel exist in todays world. Their ideology is a witness, subsequently in that sense they still exist. When Jesus returns all this will be destroyed just as the Daniel 2 prophecy foretold.

Incidentally, the Roman Empire was not destroyed as such. Its authority was taken over by the Pontiffs. Its power is still in existence only under a different banner.

Did you know that the 'replicas' of the various apostles in the Vatican are none other than the heathen deities renamed?

nonesense, the popes existed from Peter the head of the church on earth,

Teaching authority of the Apostles and their successors in the church founded by Christ!

Jesus Christ is the head of the church, (eph 5:23) the body of Christ,

(col 1:18) the new and eternal covenant, (pre-figured Jer 31:31) (Heb 8:8) new covenant replaces the Mosaic covenant, (Heb 8:13) Christ replaces David as king, (Lk 1:32-33) Jesus Christ is the only mediator between God and men, (1 Tim 2:5 & Heb 12:24) but a mediator remains on earth mediating between God and His people, but Christ ascended to heaven, (acts 1) before He did He founded His church, on Peter, and the apostles, and their successors!

Mt 16:18 Mt 28:19 Acts 1:17 acts 8:31 & 35

Jn 8:32 Jn 16:13

Jn 20:21-22 eph 2:20
 

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That is definitely not according to Daniel or according to the Bible. Here is what Daniel reveals (Dan 7:13,14; Rev 19:15):

THE EARTHLY KINGDOM OF GOD UNDER CHRIST
I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of Man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought Him near before Him. And there was given Him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve Him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed... And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

All people, nations, and languages will be on earth, not in Heaven.
That is definitely not according to Daniel or according to the Bible. Here is what Daniel reveals (Dan 7:13,14; Rev 19:15):

THE EARTHLY KINGDOM OF GOD UNDER CHRIST
I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of Man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought Him near before Him. And there was given Him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve Him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed... And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

All people, nations, and languages will be on earth, not in Heaven.

but the kingdom started 2000 years ago,
As John the Baptist and Jesus said the kingdom of God is at hand, seek the first the kingdom of God, I give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven mt 16:18
 

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No Gods heavenly kingdom also called the Messianic kingdom is a heavenly kingdom that Jesus Christ has been made king of by his Father and God. Jesus Christ along with those who will be resurrected to heaven who also will be given immortality and inherit corruptionn will rule over Earth not on the Earth.
No Gods heavenly kingdom also called the Messianic kingdom is a heavenly kingdom that Jesus Christ has been made king of by his Father and God. Jesus Christ along with those who will be resurrected to heaven who also will be given immortality and inherit corruptionn will rule over Earth not on the Earth.

There’s only one eternal kingdom Lk 1:32-33
 

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This text requires interpreting in its context. The text tells us that 'his kingdom' shall break in pieces and consume all 'these' kingdoms....' The word 'these' is referring to the other kingdoms spoken of in Daniel's interpretation of the image (metal man) that Nebuchadnezzer saw in his dream therefore, in context, it is telling us that when God's Kingdom is set up all these others are destroyed.

In short it is talking about the second coming of Jesus in the clouds. This is when all 'these' kingdoms will be destroyed.
This text requires interpreting in its context. The text tells us that 'his kingdom' shall break in pieces and consume all 'these' kingdoms....' The word 'these' is referring to the other kingdoms spoken of in Daniel's interpretation of the image (metal man) that Nebuchadnezzer saw in his dream therefore, in context, it is telling us that when God's Kingdom is set up all these others are destroyed.

In short it is talking about the second coming of Jesus in the clouds. This is when all 'these' kingdoms will be destroyed.

where does the Bible say the Bible needs to be interpreted in its context?
 

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In the days of these kings, the Roman Caesars are no more! Had to be fulfilled in the days of the kings
 

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but the kingdom started 2000 years ago,
As John the Baptist and Jesus said the kingdom of God is at hand, seek the first the kingdom of God, I give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven mt 16:18
Kingdom of "God". Luke 17:21

now the Kingdom of "heaven" is coming to earth, Matthew 6:10.

PICJAG.
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"
 

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The influence of all these kingdoms mentioned by Daniel exist in todays world. Their ideology is a witness, subsequently in that sense they still exist. When Jesus returns all this will be destroyed just as the Daniel 2 prophecy foretold.

Incidentally, the Roman Empire was not destroyed as such. Its authority was taken over by the Pontiffs. Its power is still in existence only under a different banner.

Did you know that the 'replicas' of the various apostles in the Vatican are none other than the heathen deities renamed?

they also say the Romans invented Christ and the Christian religion, Caesar’s messiah! Christ thru His church (kingdom) conquered the pagan Roman Empire
 

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At the time of Jesus' earthly ministry:

John 18:36--Jesus answered, "My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, then My servants would be fighting so that I would not be handed over to the Jews; but as it is, My kingdom is not of this realm."


When Jesus comes back to rule as King of kings:


Revelation 11:15--Then the seventh angel sounded; and there were loud voices in heaven, saying, "The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of His Christ; and He will reign forever and ever."

AMEN! CAN'T WAIT!!
 
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At the time of Jesus' earthly ministry:

John 18:36--Jesus answered, "My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, then My servants would be fighting so that I would not be handed over to the Jews; but as it is, My kingdom is not of this realm."


When Jesus comes back to rule as King of kings:


Revelation 11:15--Then the seventh angel sounded; and there were loud voices in heaven, saying, "The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of His Christ; and He will reign forever and ever."

we also are not of this world but we are in this world.
 
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