Day 9 Omer Count– Abib 24 – APRIL 16

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Sunday 4-16-23 1st. Day Of The Weekly Cycle Nisan 24, 5783 28th. Spring Day

Gevurah of Gevurah: Discipline in Discipline

Psalm 119:65-72, I Cor. 16:13

Examine the discipline factor of discipline: Is my discipline reasonably restrained or is it excessive? Do I have enough discipline in my life and in my interactions? Am I organized? Is my time used efficiently? Why do I have problems with discipline and what can I do to enhance it? Do I take time each day for personal accounting of my schedule and accomplishments?

Exercise for the day: Make a detailed plan for spending your day and at the end of the day see if you've lived up to it.

Love, Walter and Debbie
 
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The waving of the sheaf is on 1st fruits which is after the Sabbath. The weekly Sabbath. Always a Sunday. Just as shavout is always a Sunday.
Yeshua who is our firstfruit rose on the 1st day of the week which is a Sunday and was firstfruits.

He had Hia Passover the evening of the 14th at twilight. Died and was buried on the 14th. The 15th was the 1st day of Unleavened bread a Friday that year as it was this year. Then Saturday was the weekly Sabbath and the third day was firstfruits.

3 days 3 nights fulfilled
3rd day fulfilled

Firstfruits fulfilled.


Going by firstfruits being the day after the 1st day of Unleavened bread. Saturday
YESHUA isn't the firstfruit because He rose on the 1st day of the week.

So either He isn't the firstfruit and wasn't waved before Israel. Or He rose on Saturday and He didn't fulfill the 3 days and 3 nights. And the gospel writers changed the Sabbath to Friday aka the 7th day. And made Saturday the 1st day.
 

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The waving of the sheaf is on 1st fruits which is after the Sabbath. The weekly Sabbath. Always a Sunday. Just as shavout is always a Sunday.
Yeshua who is our firstfruit rose on the 1st day of the week which is a Sunday and was firstfruits.

He had Hia Passover the evening of the 14th at twilight. Died and was buried on the 14th. The 15th was the 1st day of Unleavened bread a Friday that year as it was this year. Then Saturday was the weekly Sabbath and the third day was firstfruits.

3 days 3 nights fulfilled
3rd day fulfilled

Firstfruits fulfilled.


Going by firstfruits being the day after the 1st day of Unleavened bread. Saturday
YESHUA isn't the firstfruit because He rose on the 1st day of the week.

So either He isn't the firstfruit and wasn't waved before Israel. Or He rose on Saturday and He didn't fulfill the 3 days and 3 nights. And the gospel writers changed the Sabbath to Friday aka the 7th day. And made Saturday the 1st day.
The firstfruits are mentioned in Leviticus 23, we are not going by the above summary.

Paul also points our here that Jesus is the “first fruits of those who are asleep,” a euphemism for those who have died. “First fruits” is a double reference indicating not only that Jesus was the first to be resurrected of many who will be resurrected in the future, but it is also a reference to the Old Testament requirement that the first of any harvested crops were to be brought to the Lord as an offering.

Jesus Christ: The First Fruits – 1 Corinthians 15:20-28 ...


In the book of Leviticus Yahweh commands His people: “And ye shall COUNT UNTO YOU from the morrow after the sabbath [the Passover holy day] . . . seven weeks [correct translation] shall be complete: Even unto the morrow after the seventh week shall ye NUMBER FIFTY DAYS” (Lev.23:15-16). In this passage God commands His people to “count” seven weeks, from the day after the Passover high holy day, and to “number” or count fifty days. In Deuteronomy, God also commands: “Seven weeks shall you NUMBER unto thee: BEGIN TO NUMBER the seven weeks from such time as thou beginnest to put the sickle to the corn” (Deut.16:9). Notice! THREE TIMES God commands His people to “count” and to “number” the days between Passover and Pentecost -- the Feast of Weeks! How many of God’s people have been faithfully carrying out this divine commandment? The Jewish rabbis refer to this as “counting the omer.” The “omer” is the “wave sheaf” of barley which is cut down and offered to Almighty God at the beginning of barley harvest, the day following the Passover holy day, Nisan 15. It was to be waved by the high priest before God on Nisan 16, the day barley harvest was to begin. Nobody was to eat anything from the harvest until this act was done, in obedience to God's command. An “omer” consisted of about 5.1 pints of grain. Alfred Edersheim in his book The Temple:Its Ministry and Services, tells us that the evening following Nisan 15th: “The law had it, 'Ye shall bring a sheaf [literally the omer] of the firstfruits of the harvest unto the priest . . .' This Passover-sheaf, or rather omer,was to be accompanied by a burnt offering

Now this Passover-sheaf was reaped in public the evening before it was offered, and it was to witness this ceremony that the crowd gathered around 'the elders,' who took care that all was done according to traditionary ordinance” (p.203). Edersheim continues: “The expression, 'The morrow after the Sabbath' (Lev.23:11), has sometimes been misunderstood as implying that the presentation of the so-called 'first sheaf' was to be always made on the day following the weekly Sabbath of the Passover-week. This view, adopted by the 'Botheusians' and the Sadducees in the time of Christ . . . rests on a misinterpretation of the word 'Sabbath' (Lev.23:24, 32, 39). As in analogous allusions to other feasts in the same chapter, it means not the weekly Sabbath, but the day of the festival. The testimony of Josephus (Ant. 3.248-249), of Philo (Op. ii, 294), and of Jewish tradition, leaves no room to doubt that in this instance we are to under- stand by the 'Sabbath' the 15th of Nisan, on whatever day of the week it may fall” (The Temple, p.204). Though one ephah, or ten omers, of barley was cut down, only one omer of flour, about 5.1 pints, was offered in the Temple, on the second day of Passover (Nisan 16). But what does the “omer” represent, and why and how should we “count the omer”? What is this mysterious command all about? Is this something which applies to true Christians and believers in Christ today? Or is this just something that concerned ancient Israel?

Love, Walter
 

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Leviticus 23 says the day after the Sabat. Meaning the weekly Sabat.

The 1st day of Unleavened bread uses the word miqra. One would assume He would use Sabaton. Or Sabat. But He doesn't as to leave out the confusion.
This word is used for Matzout, Shavout and Sukkout.

The reason is Firstfruits moves according to the 1st day of Unleavened bread. If that day falls on a weekly Sabat then that day becomes the High Holy day and is no longer the sabat.
And the next regular Sabat would be the following Saturday. And firstfruits would be the day after.

Shavout is the only holiday that does not have a fixed date. YHWH tells us it is 50 days after Firstfruits. If it was the day after the 1st day of Unleavened bread then Shavout would be fixed and set.
 

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Leviticus 23 says the day after the Sabat. Meaning the weekly Sabat.
Leviticus 23:11 refers to the Feast of Firstfruits which was celebrated on the day after the Sabbath during Passover. The verse describes how a sheaf of barley was to be waved before the Lord by a priest. This was done in order to show gratitude for the harvest and to ask for God's blessing on it. The waving of the sheaf was also symbolic of the resurrection of Jesus Christ.
 

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What is in disagreement?
Yeshua celebrated Passover at twilight on the 14th day. Is that in agreement?

Yeshua was tried and put to death on the 14th and was buried before sundown. Is that in agreement?

The 15th day of Avib is the 1st day of Unleavened bread a special Sabbaton. As mentioned in the gospel of John. Is that in agreement?

Yeshua spent three days and three nights in the grave. Is that in agreement?

Yeshua rose before sunrise on the 1st day of the week. Is that in agreement?

Do you agree Sunday is the 1st day of the week?

The writings of the letters to the churches say Yeshua is the Firstfruit and was waved before Isreal. Is that in agreement?

All of the gospels say Yeshua appeared to believers the day He rose. Is that in agreement?

Are we in agreement that this was the fulfillment of the sheaf?

So going by the fact that Yeshua rose from the grave on Sunday before Sunrise. As mentioned in all the gospels. We must go back 3 nights.
Saturday , Friday and Thursday. And go back 3 days. Saturday, Friday and Thursday. This is when Yeshua died at noon and spirit went into the grave.

So we can agree that Yeshua fulfilled the 3 days and 3 nights?

Can we agree that Thursday was the 14th of Avib?

Can we agree that Friday was the 1st day of Unleavened the 15th or Avib?

So the day after the 15th of avib would be the 16th? Can we agree on that?
 
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What is in disagreement?
Yeshua celebrated Passover at twilight on the 14th day. Is that in agreement?

Yeshua was tried and put to death on the 14th and was buried before sundown. Is that in agreement?

The 15th day of Avib is the 1st day of Unleavened bread a special Sabbaton. As mentioned in the gospel of John. Is that in agreement?

Yeshua spent three days and three nights in the grave. Is that in agreement?

Yeshua rose before sunrise on the 1st day of the week. Is that in agreement?

Do you agree Sunday is the 1st day of the week?

The writings of the letters to the churches say Yeshua is the Firstfruit and was waved before Isreal. Is that in agreement?

All of the gospels say Yeshua appeared to believers the day He rose. Is that in agreement?

Are we in agreement that this was the fulfillment of the sheaf?

So going by the fact that Yeshua rose from the grave on Sunday before Sunrise. As mentioned in all the gospels. We must go back 3 nights.
Saturday , Friday and Thursday. And go back 3 days. Saturday, Friday and Thursday. This is when Yeshua died at noon and spirit went into the grave.

So we can agree that Yeshua fulfilled the 3 days and 3 nights?

Can we agree that Thursday was the 14th of Avib?

Can we agree that Friday was the 1st day of Unleavened the 15th or Avib?

So the day after the 15th of avib would be the 16th? Can we agree on that?
And the LORD spoke to Moses, saying,

10“Speak to the children of Israel, and say to them: ‘When you come into the land which I give to you, and reap its harvest, then you shall bring a sheaf of the firstfruits of your harvest to the priest.

11‘He shall wave the sheaf before the LORD, to be accepted on your behalf; on the day after the Sabbath the priest shall wave it.

12‘And you shall offer on that day, when you wave the sheaf, a male lamb of the first year, without blemish, as a burnt offering to the LORD.

13‘Its grain offering shall be two-tenths of an ephah of fine flour mixed with oil, an offering made by fire to the LORD, for a sweet aroma; and its drink offering shall be of wine, one-fourth of a hin.

14‘You shall eat neither bread nor parched grain nor fresh grain until the same day that you have brought an offering to your God; it shall be a statute forever throughout your generations in all your dwellings


Leviticus 23:10 thru 14 does not mention the 1st day of Unleavened bread. It mentions the Sabat and not Sabaton.


Verses 4 through 8 do not mention the word sabat. They mention Convocation. So we can not add to them Sabat or Sabaton.


‘And you shall count for yourselves from the day after the Sabbath, from the day that you brought the sheaf of the wave offering: seven Sabbaths shall be completed.
16‘Count fifty days to the day after the seventh Sabbath; then you shall offer a new grain offering to the LORD.

Again there is no mention in the scriptures Lev 23 15 through 16 of the 1st day of Unleavened bread. Only sabat. The same word used in verse 11.
 

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And the LORD spoke to Moses, saying,

10“Speak to the children of Israel, and say to them: ‘When you come into the land which I give to you, and reap its harvest, then you shall bring a sheaf of the firstfruits of your harvest to the priest.

11‘He shall wave the sheaf before the LORD, to be accepted on your behalf; on the day after the Sabbath the priest shall wave it.

12‘And you shall offer on that day, when you wave the sheaf, a male lamb of the first year, without blemish, as a burnt offering to the LORD.

13‘Its grain offering shall be two-tenths of an ephah of fine flour mixed with oil, an offering made by fire to the LORD, for a sweet aroma; and its drink offering shall be of wine, one-fourth of a hin.

14‘You shall eat neither bread nor parched grain nor fresh grain until the same day that you have brought an offering to your God; it shall be a statute forever throughout your generations in all your dwellings


Leviticus 23:10 thru 14 does not mention the 1st day of Unleavened bread. It mentions the Sabat and not Sabaton.


Verses 4 through 8 do not mention the word sabat. They mention Convocation. So we can not add to them Sabat or Sabaton.


‘And you shall count for yourselves from the day after the Sabbath, from the day that you brought the sheaf of the wave offering: seven Sabbaths shall be completed.
16‘Count fifty days to the day after the seventh Sabbath; then you shall offer a new grain offering to the LORD.

Again there is no mention in the scriptures Lev 23 15 through 16 of the 1st day of Unleavened bread. Only sabat. The same word used in verse 11.
What Is The Morrow After The Sabbath In Leviticus 23? What Is The Morrow After The Sabbath In Leviticus 23? - Bing

Love, Walter and Debbie
 

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11‘He shall wave the sheaf before the LORD, to be accepted on your behalf; on the day after the Sabbath the priest shall wave it.

māḥŏrāṯ. The day after
Sabat The Sabbath.

Day after the Sabbath is Sunday.

If we use the after the 15th of Avib then YHWH would have said the 16th of Avib for Firstfruits. And Shavout would be given as well. Like HE Does for all HIS Holy days. Passover is given. 14th day of Avib at twilight. 1st day of Matzout 15th of Avib. 7th day of Matzout 21st of Avib. Feast of Trumpets 1st day of 7 month. Yom Kippur 10th day of 7 month. 15th day of 7th month 1st day of Sukkout.

The tradition of using the 16th of avib started after Hallel 2. This is to discredit Yeshua as the Firstfruits.
The same teaching of Yeshua dying on Friday started then as well. To discredit Yeshua from fulfilling the sign of Jonah He gave the religious rulers.

Using their calendar and traditions presents a blemished Yeshua.
 

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11‘He shall wave the sheaf before the LORD, to be accepted on your behalf; on the day after the Sabbath the priest shall wave it.

māḥŏrāṯ. The day after
Sabat The Sabbath.

Day after the Sabbath is Sunday.

If we use the after the 15th of Avib then YHWH would have said the 16th of Avib for Firstfruits. And Savou would be given as well. Like HE Does for all HIS Holy days. Passover is given. 14th day of Avib at twilight. 1st day of Matzout 15th of Avib. 7th day of Matzout 21st of Avib. Feast of Trumpets 1st day of 7 month. Yom Kippur 10th day of 7 month. 15th day of 7th month 1st day of Sukkout.

The tradition of using the 16th of avib started after Hallel 2. This is to discredit Yeshua as the Firstfruits.
The same teaching of Yeshua dying on Friday started then as well. To discredit Yeshua from fulfilling the sign of Jonah He gave the religious rulers.

Using their calendar and traditions presents a blemished Yeshua.