Did Jesus order purchase of swords in Lu 22:36?

[jerzy]

Since you don't believe God's Word, there is nothing more I have to say to you.
Joe

I asked for God's word.

You came with accusation that I don't believe in it.

Does your answer make sense to you?

Satan is any adversary of God be it man woman or child. It is a Hebrew word that simply means adversary.

I would add Jam 1:14-15.

Anyway, thanks Son of Man.

Don't be cross with me if I forget that you are one among billions who got it right.

What part of His command to His disciples to go BUY A SWORD do you not understand???


Brainwashed NWO types like yourself can go on and on against that Luke 22 Scripture, but is simply is not going to go away. And to PROVE that it has not gone away centuries AFTER He said that, the founders of the Republic of the United States of America put the right of the people to bear arms in the U.S. Constitution to ensure that God-given right.

No amount of tongue-twisting like a serpent is going to change that.

Certainly, Jesus' teaching to love enemies will not be changed by the Republic of the United States of America to ordering Christian to kill their Christian brothers.

The man's Constitution ensures that God-given word is set aside.

Consider Ga 1:-9 and Ro 1:18.

Consider Ro 13 to.

I asked for God's word.

You came with accusation that I don't believe in it.

Does your answer make sense to you?



I would add Jam 1:14-15.

Anyway, thanks Son of Man.

Don't be cross with me if I forget that you are one among billions who got it right.



Certainly, Jesus' teaching to love enemies will not be changed by the Republic of the United States of America ordering Christian to kill their Christian brothers.

The man's Constitution ensures that God-given word is set aside.

Consider Ga 1:-9 and Ro 1:18.

Consider Ro 13 to.

I gotta side with Vet on this issue.

Why not side with Jesus?

 

[JoeinArkansas]

What part of His command to His disciples to go BUY A SWORD do you not understand???


Brainwashed NWO types like yourself can go on and on against that Luke 22 Scripture, but is simply is not going to go away. And to PROVE that it has not gone away centuries AFTER He said that, the founders of the Republic of the United States of America put the right of the people to bear arms in the U.S. Constitution to ensure that God-given right.

No amount of tongue-twisting like a serpent is going to change that.

Dear veteran,
Christ's words are spirit and they have spiritual meaning. Paul said:

Eph 6:17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:

The sword is the word of God. Paul tells us to take the sword just as Christ told us to take the sword. Both represent the word of God. In Christ's message, He goes on to tell us that "two swords" are enough. Enough for what? Enough to prove any scriptural truth. In other words, we need a double witness of scripture.

Why do you think Christ wants us to take a real sword but Paul wants us to take a spiritual sword (the word of God). Are Paul and Christ teaching something different? No, they are not. In fact, Christ is the word of God. Do you think that Christ would tell Paul anything different since Christ is the author of scripture? Christ words are spirit (John 6:63) and as Paul explained, the spiritual understanding of "sword" is the word of God.

Since Christ is the word of God and His words are spirit, then it stands to reason that for a person to understand scripture, they MUST have spiritual understanding. Spiritual understanding is represented by having "eyes that can see" and "ears that can hear". We all come into this world spiritually blind. Christ came to heal the blind. So if you are ever going to understand scripture, you must have Christ heal your blindness and give you that understanding. Spiritual blindness is how Christ conceals his Truth from the unbelievers and the "called" (those in the harlot churches). He only reveals it to the "chosen" and the "few".

Do you not understand any spiritual meaning of scripture?

Here is a very easy one:

Matt 8:22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.

Christ is saying to them to let the spiritually dead bury the physically dead. Can you see that?

Here is another one, not quite so easy: Even so, most spiritually near sighted (spriitually blind) people can understand it's meaning.

John 6:56 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.

Christ is the true bread from heaven. He is also the word of God. If we eat his flesh and drink his blood, then we are being spiritually nurished by Him so as to have the power to follow Him. But in order for us to receive nurishment from the word of God, we must be able to understand it. That takes spiritual understanding that only comes to us when Christ heals our spiritual blindness. Our blindness is healed when Christ gives us the Holy Spirit to dwell in us. Christ is the bread of life and we must eat Him. Do you understand that?

Everything Christ said has a spiritual component to it. If you can't understand that spiritual component, then you are going to go on believing that Christ was speaking of literal swords in Luke 22 and you will die in your sins because we are commanded to NOT RESIST EVIL and to LOVE our enemies. We don't show love to them by harming and killing them.

You need to recognize that you are spiritually blind and ask Christ to heal your blindness. He is the only one who can help us "see". But be careful what you ask for. If He heals your blindness, it will turn your world upside down and your church will cast you out. The harlot does not take kindly to God's Elect teaching the truth of scripture.

Finally, what is a NWO type? If you think I am one, I should at least now what it is. However, my understanding of scripture is not associated with any of the "many" harlot churches in the world. My understanding of scripture comes from scripture. I do not associate with any so called "church" or group.
Joe

 

[jerzy]

Dear veteran,
Christ's words are spirit and they have spiritual meaning. Paul said:

Eph 6:17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:

The sword is the word of God. Paul tells us to take the sword just as Christ told us to take the sword. Both represent the word of God. In Christ's message, He goes on to tell us that "two swords" are enough. Enough for what? Enough to prove any scriptural truth. In other words, we need a double witness of scripture.

Why do you think Christ wants us to take a real sword but Paul wants us to take a spiritual sword (the word of God). Are Paul and Christ teaching something different? No, they are not. In fact, Christ is the word of God. Do you think that Christ would tell Paul anything different since Christ is the author of scripture? Christ words are spirit (John 6:63) and as Paul explained, the spiritual understanding of "sword" is the word of God.

Since Christ is the word of God and His words are spirit, then it stands to reason that for a person to understand scripture, they MUST have spiritual understanding. Spiritual understanding is represented by having "eyes that can see" and "ears that can hear". We all come into this world spiritually blind. Christ came to heal the blind. So if you are ever going to understand scripture, you must have Christ heal your blindness and give you that understanding. Spiritual blindness is how Christ conceals his Truth from the unbelievers and the "called" (those in the harlot churches). He only reveals it to the "chosen" and the "few".

Do you not understand any spiritual meaning of scripture?

Here is a very easy one:

Matt 8:22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.

Christ is saying to them to let the spiritually dead bury the physically dead. Can you see that?

Here is another one, not quite so easy: Even so, most spiritually near sighted (spriitually blind) people can understand it's meaning.

John 6:56 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.

Christ is the true bread from heaven. He is also the word of God. If we eat his flesh and drink his blood, then we are being spiritually nurished by Him so as to have the power to follow Him. But in order for us to receive nurishment from the word of God, we must be able to understand it. That takes spiritual understanding that only comes to us when Christ heals our spiritual blindness. Our blindness is healed when Christ gives us the Holy Spirit to dwell in us. Christ is the bread of life and we must eat Him. Do you understand that?

Everything Christ said has a spiritual component to it. If you can't understand that spiritual component, then you are going to go on believing that Christ was speaking of literal swords in Luke 22 and you will die in your sins because we are commanded to NOT RESIST EVIL and to LOVE our enemies. We don't show love to them by harming and killing them.

You need to recognize that you are spiritually blind and ask Christ to heal your blindness. He is the only one who can help us "see". But be careful what you ask for. If He heals your blindness, it will turn your world upside down and your church will cast you out. The harlot does not take kindly to God's Elect teaching the truth of scripture.

Finally, what is a NWO type? If you think I am one, I should at least now what it is. However, my understanding of scripture is not associated with any of the "many" harlot churches in the world. My understanding of scripture comes from scripture. I do not associate with any so called "church" or group.
Joe

Dear Joe.

I take my hat of my head for this post.

Thanks man.

Actually I didn't make this connection between the two swards and the two witnesses required.

 

[JoeinArkansas]

Dear Joe.

I take my hat of my head for this post.

Thanks man.

Actually I didn't make this connection between the two swards and the two witnesses required.

Dear Jerzy,
I am happy but surprised that you agree with it. You may already be aware, but all the truth of scripture is hidden and concealed so that Christ can reveal it to whom He chooses. The book of Revelation is "the unveiling of Jesus Christ". He is hidden from the world, mostly concealed from the "called" but He makes Himself known to the "few" (chosen & Elect). That is why the book of Revelation was "signified" so that Christ will remain concealed to all but those HE chooses.

Joe

 

[jerzy]

Dear Jerzy,
I am happy but surprised that you agree with it. You may already be aware, but all the truth of scripture is hidden and concealed so that Christ can reveal it to whom He chooses. The book of Revelation is "the unveiling of Jesus Christ". He is hidden from the world, mostly concealed from the "called" but He makes Himself known to the "few" (chosen & Elect). That is why the book of Revelation was "signified" so that Christ will remain concealed to all but those HE chooses.

Joe

Well, Joe.

I could say what God did to me but I'd rather He make Christians to know Him from His word which is truth.

Anyway, since you claim to be familiar with the book of Revelation I wonder why you don't want to tell us who is the great red dragon of Re 12:3 who was cast out in Re 12:9.

 

[JoeinArkansas]

Well, Joe.

I could say what God did to me but I'd rather He make Christians to know Him from His word which is truth.

Anyway, since you claim to be familiar with the book of Revelation I wonder why you don't want to tell us who is the great red dragon of Re 12:3 who was cast out in Re 12:9.

Dear Jerzy,
You already know that I believe Satan is a spiritual being that was created by God to destroy & deceive and to serve a part in God's salvation plan for the world. He is not a "fallen" angel as most believe. God made him the way he is "from the begining". Why don't you tell us who you think it is and WHY? I do not believe Satan has anything to do with the Eygptian god Sat as you mentioned in another post. If you post concerning Satan, I would be willing to read your explanation of your belief.
Joe

 

[jerzy]

Dear Jerzy,
You already know that I believe Satan is a spiritual being that was created by God to destroy & deceive and to serve a part in God's salvation plan for the world. He is not a "fallen" angel as most believe. God made him the way he is "from the begining". Why don't you tell us who you think it is and WHY? I do not believe Satan has anything to do with the Eygptian god Sat as you mentioned in another post. If you post concerning Satan, I would be willing to read your explanation of your belief.
Joe

Dear Joe.

There is no mention of Satan as a spiritual being created by God for the purpose of destroying & deceiving.

To begin with, the serpent of Ge 3 is said to be a snake not a spiritual being per say. It was cursed.

Peter, on the other hand was Satan to Jesus because he didn't have God's but human way of thinking and wanted to turn Jesus away from his purpose he was sent to accomplish.

God states that He alone kills and destroys, that nothing exists in the world who/which can take control away from Him.

However, He does it through/by His angels/spirits alike Isa 37:36 or through His word alike Ps 33:6-9.

The question may be asked if there are certain angels/spirits allocated to do the "evil" works which would somehow prove your point. We are not told this but we know that some angels seem to be of a higher ranking than others.

To my understanding God does what is necessary to fulfil His plan, to fulfil what He foretold.

He uses evil man against wicket.

He places people wherever He desire them for whatever purpose.

He influences people's decisions to do His will.

Now, please forgive me my strong stance against you because it looked to me that you acknowledged existence of a fallen angel/s.

Besides, I seldom check to whose post I reply and what he/she believes in.

 

[veteran]

I asked for God's word.

You came with accusation that I don't believe in it.

Does your answer make sense to you?



I would add Jam 1:14-15.

Anyway, thanks Son of Man.

Don't be cross with me if I forget that you are one among billions who got it right.



Certainly, Jesus' teaching to love enemies will not be changed by the Republic of the United States of America to ordering Christian to kill their Christian brothers.

The man's Constitution ensures that God-given word is set aside.

Consider Ga 1:-9 and Ro 1:18.

Consider Ro 13 to.


Why not side with Jesus?

You're not trying to side with Jesus by trying to lie about His commanding His disciples to go buy a sword. Instead, you're following man by going against what He said there in Luke 22.

The U.S. founder's beliefs were Biblical, and that's where much of the U.S. Constitution and their interpretations of it originated from.

But it's obvious you don't care about that, nor the rights of God's people.

You instead side with thieves and murderers, because those were the reasons why Jesus commanded His disciples to go buy a sword for self-defense. And it's why the U.S. Constitutional founders wrote the 2nd Ammendment giving 'the people' the right to bear arms, so the people could defend theirselves against those same thieves and murderers and tyrants that existed in the disciples' days.

Just so happens today, the one-world government globalists are making yet another attempt to disarm American citizens so they can takeover the United States of America. They are actually scared is what they are, because they know as long as America is armed, they'll have a fight on their hands in trying herd the people up like cattle for destruction like they did under Hitler, Lennin, Stalin, Pol-Pot, Chang ki Chek, Castro, etc.

 

[Pelaides]

Jesus knew he was about to be crucified,and that he wasnt going to be around to provide and protect his disciples anymore.So he told them to get the things they needed in order to survive without him.It was one of the last things he said to them before he was taken by the romans.
were not in heaven yet.