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Dispensationalism versus Hyper-Dispensationalism

Discussion in 'Christian Apologetics Forum' started by CoreIssue, Nov 13, 2018.

  1. CoreIssue

    CoreIssue Well-Known Member

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    Many throw these words around without even knowing what they mean.

    Up front, I am a Dispensationalist.

    Here's a kickoff to get the discussion started:
    What is ultra-dispensationalism?
     
  2. gadar perets

    gadar perets Well-Known Member

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    I reject both since they are merely man made categories that are unscriptural, especially the dispensations of Law and Grace.
     
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    CoreIssue Well-Known Member

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    Theological terms give a shorthand to use in the conversations. Same is true for rapture and a lot of other things.

    Like it or not, we all use them.
     
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    Vexatious Active Member

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    Dispensationalism versus Hyper-Dispensationalism?
    Anti-Christian Lies vs. hyper-Anti-Christian lies.
     
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  5. gadar perets

    gadar perets Well-Known Member

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    I choose not to like them and I don't use them. People that don't want to obey YHWH's laws use them so they can put those laws in a past dispensation.
     
  6. CoreIssue

    CoreIssue Well-Known Member

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    Too late, you already use them. Law and Grace are theological terms.

    Also sounds like you're pushing legalism. Not good.
     
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    gadar perets Well-Known Member

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    Law and grace are Biblical terms. Dispensation is not.

    I don't push legalism. I push obedience.
     
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    CoreIssue Well-Known Member

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    Hmmmm.
     
  9. ScottA

    ScottA Well-Known Member

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    Whoa! That website description is grueling. Just another 'ism.

    I prefer Jesus' definition: "the first and the last." It's that simple.
     
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    Enoch111 Well-Known Member

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    More nonsense from an unreliable source.
     
  11. Stranger

    Stranger Well-Known Member

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    I am dispensationalist also. I agree with Ironside, as shown in the link you gave, that ultra-dispensationalism is no good.

    But concerning dispensationalism, I do not think one can ever come to a complete understanding of the Scripture without understanding the dispensations God has given us in the Scripture.

    Stranger
     
  12. gadar perets

    gadar perets Well-Known Member

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    That is pretty strange. We can't understand Scripture unless we put it in our man made box of dispensationalism? Why do we need to obey nine of the ten commandments as well as the two greatest commandments, all from the dispenation of Law, while we are living under the dispensation of grace? Why did laws exist prior to the dispensation of Law (for example, murder was a sin and Joseph knew adultery was a sin)?
     
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    Hidden In Him Well-Known Member

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    I actually don't think that the case for separate dispensations holds up that well, but often in the context of discussing the millennium I am forced to identify as a "dispensationalist" or "non-dispensationalist." In such cases, I identify as a dispensationalist for a lack of a better way to describe my position on that particular issue.
     
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    Good to distinguish whether a passage is talking about the church or Israel; otherwise all sorts of confusion may arise.
     
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    Stranger Well-Known Member

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    Gee, one of another faith explaining how Christians are to understand the Bible. That is pretty strange.

    Stranger
     
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    Stranger Well-Known Member

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    Indeed it is.

    Stranger
     
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  17. farouk

    farouk Well-Known Member

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    I definitely think so! :)
     
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    Ironside wrote some good commentaries

    I think a lot were sermons that were subsequently printed.

    Seems that today it's fashionable for preachers to de-emphasize the Rapture.
     
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    Stranger Well-Known Member

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    Yes. Dispensationalism and the Rapture are demonized today.

    Stranger
     
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    More is the pity. They are important aspects of Divine revelation in Scripture.
     
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