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Do you pray in the spirit?

Discussion in 'Christian Spirituality Forum' started by Ally.s.j, Dec 4, 2017.

Do you pray in the spirit?

  1. Yes I do

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  1. Ally.s.j

    Ally.s.j Active Member

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    I would like to know if there are any who pray in tounges in here?
     
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  2. Miss Hepburn

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    In the Bible Study Forum...could you read in" Re Speaking in Tongues " by twinc...my post #22?
    Kinda long to write over again.
    And, yes, by His grace.
     
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    Yes, Amen...you will find many of us do...and those who don't seem very opposed ...not sure if it is sour grapes or just willful ignorance.
    Now WHY it so incenses some of them I have no idea. :rolleyes:
    But YES, praise God for this blessing. For me...50 years next October. And 4 years after I became a believing-believer. :)
     
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  4. Miss Hepburn

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    I was so happy...then my black, married mailman, who has a super crush on me, a real curse of being attractive ...asked how I was.. I blurted out, I just got healed...,
    andand,and I can speak in tongues....he started yelling at me...wow!
    I stood there completely fine and calm as ever...and he caught himself.
    Talk about incensed?!
    I hope this is a thread where we can mention these things.
     
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  5. Job

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    I believe people who argue that speaking in tongues no longer exists are simply trying to justify their inability to speak in tongues. They view themselves as so holy and pure that if they aren't blessed with a spiritual gift, it doesn't exist anymore. They aren't satisfied with just being saved, they want to be a step above everyone else.

    I don't speak in tongues but witnessed others who do. Who am I to call them a liar?

    Not everyone is born to be king...


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    I am another one of those who prays regularly in tongues.
     
  7. Frank Lee

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    When Jesus saved me 40 years ago this fall I had no idea what had happened. It was all outside of church you see. I still needed much help and felt so devastated and needy.

    One morning before leaving for work I watched a testimony on the old PTL club. It was Shirley Boone telling how she went to pray and looked up later and realized she had been speaking in another language for a good while. I had never heard of such a thing but thought well, she's a celebrity's wife so I can see God doing that for her. That's how little I knew about God.

    I was praying and weeping before God that afternoon and her testimony came back to me. With it a strong thought "if God did that for that woman maybe He'd do it for you".

    I never would have thought that. So I began to make up words, anything to speak. In a minute or so I didn't have to make them up! God had baptized me in the Holy Spirit and I didn't even know what it was.

    I was praying on the spirit when the Lord gave me the interpretation and told me my wife was pregnant with the son He had promised us after 14 childless years. That Son is 36 now. Did I get to hear God? Yes.

    I've been praying for 40 years in this wonderful gift. Here are some very critical scriptures on this gift from Jesus!

    Baptism in the Holy Spirit and the evidencing gift of tongues. The baptism in the Holy Spirit is always evidenced by the gift of tongues given to those receiving. Always.


    Job 29:21Job 29:23 (NKJV)
    “Men listened to me and waited,
    And kept silence for my counsel.
    After my words they did not speak again,
    And my speech settled on them as dew.
    They waited for me as for the rain,
    And they opened their mouth wide as for the spring rain.

    Intercessory prayer in the spirit (tongues)

    Job 32:18Job 32:20 (NKJV)
    For I am full of words;
    The spirit within me compels me.
    Indeed my belly is like wine that has no vent;
    It is ready to burst like new wineskins.
    I will speak, that I may find relief;
    I must open my lips and answer.


    Isaiah 28:11-12 KJVS
    For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people.
    [12] To whom he said, This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear.

    Zephaniah 3:9 KJVS
    then will I turn to the people a pure language, that they may all call upon the name of the Lord , to serve him with one consent.

    The pure language mentioned is praying in the spirit, tongues. Reference Jude, Ephesians 6th chapter, 1 Corinthians 14th chapter, Mark 16th chapter.

    Mark 16:17 KJVS
    And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;

    Acts 1:8 KJVS
    But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.

    Acts 2:1-4 KJVS
    And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.
    [2] And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.
    [3] And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.
    [4] And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

    Cornelius and others are saved then baptized with the Holy Spirit and receive the gift of tongues. Later they were water baptized. This is the case when I was saved.

    Acts 10:44-47 (NKJV)
    44 While Peter was still speaking these words, the Holy Spirit fell upon all those who heard the word.
    45 And those of the circumcision who believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because the gift of the Holy Spirit had been poured out on the Gentiles also.
    46 For they heard them speak with tongues and magnify God. Then Peter answered,
    47 "Can anyone forbid water, that these should not be baptized who have received the Holy Spirit just as we have?"

    Acts 19:1-7 KJVS
    And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples,
    [2] He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost SINCE ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.
    [3] And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism. [4] Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
    [5] When they heard this , they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
    [6] And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.
    [7] And all the men were about twelve.

    1 Corinthians 12:7-11 KJVS
    But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal. [8] For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;
    [9] To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;
    [10] To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:
    [11] But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.


    Pursue love, and earnestly desire the spiritual gifts, especially that you may prophesy. For one who speaks in a tongue speaks not to men but to God; for no one understands him, but he utters mysteries in the Spirit. On the other hand, the one who prophesies speaks to people for their upbuilding and encouragement and consolation.

    The one who speaks in a tongue builds up himself, but the one who prophesies builds up the church. Now I want you all to speak in tongues, but even more to prophesy. The one who prophesies is greater than the one who speaks in tongues, unless someone interprets, so that the church may be built up. I thank God that I speak in tongues more than all of you. Nevertheless, in church I would rather speak five words with my mind in order to instruct others, than ten thousand words in a tongue. So, my brothers, earnestly desire to prophesy, and DO NOT FORBID speaking in tongues.
    1 Corinthians 14:1‭-‬5‭, ‬18‭-‬19‭, ‬39 ESV

    praying at all times in the Spirit, with all prayer and supplication. To that end, keep alert with all perseverance, making supplication for all the saints,
    Ephesians 6:18 ESV


    Jude 1:20 (NKJV)
    But you, beloved, building yourselves up on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Spirit,

    Job 37:19 KJVS
    Teach us what we shall say unto him; for we cannot order our speech by reason of darkness.

    How long can you pray with your mere understanding? Not long. Not for hours on end. Only prayer in the prayer language, tongues can continue without ceasing. The language may be either a known one or an unknown one. Tongues of men and of angels Paul says in 1Corinthians 13.

    Forbid not he states in 1Corinthians 14.

    1 Corinthians 14:34, 38-39 (NKJV)
    38 But if anyone is ignorant, let him be ignorant.
    39 Therefore, brethren, desire earnestly to prophesy, and do not forbid to speak with tongues.

    Now look at these scriptures.


    Acts 8:14-17 (NKJV)
    14 Now when the apostles who were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent Peter and John to them,
    15 who, when they had come down, prayed for them that they might receive the Holy Spirit.
    16 For as yet He had fallen upon none of them. They had only been baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
    17 Then they laid hands on them, and they received the Holy Spirit.


    VS 16, these had been baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. They were saved. Saved as saved can be. But wait! There was more. THEN they laid hands on them and they received the Holy Spirit. How do you suppose they KNEW that these men had received the Holy Spirit? That's right. They did what everyone else did. Spoke - prayed - praised God in tongues. Prayer in the spirit.

    For a good while after He gave me this in my given prayer language I would often say yeshua. But the pronunciation was never like I hear it. It was "YESH-ua" with the emphasis on the yesh and the "ua" falling off. Not the "yesh-SHUA" I hear so often.

    Charge your batteries and pray in the spirit. Hallelujah!
     
  8. Miss Hepburn

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    Oh my, Frank Lee look at all the verses you gave us!

    Ha...you made up words...like me for a minute in my car...I explain it as priming a pump...then I say, If you want to dance, you at least have to stand up and move your feet a little.
    Thank you for your story!

    I have an interesting thing about "tongues" ,for short...I didn't understand it ...watched a couple YouTubes.
    One mocked it saying, "They sure do say Ba Baba, a lot!"
    They do?
    So! I start speaking in tongues, and mentally try to say, ba ba...I try to make myself form a B with my lips!! Is that funny or what?:D

    I could not even MAKE myself form a Ba sound. How funny that first week to try that.
    I saw then and there this thing just bypasses the mind...it's not something I'm
    making up myself.
    But, like dancing...I can not expect God to just start moving my mouth...I at least have to stand up out of my chair.
    So trying to make syllables is the way to go, yes...and then see how 'it' takes off.

    What was unimaginable to me ever happening...happened.
     
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    I worked in a section of an oil rig building company. The depo I started working in was called dimentional control. I left shool with nothing.
    So I knew nothing of geomotry. So the guys gave me basic homework that I loved and wanted so bad to learn.
    They taught me Soe Cah Toa same as Cos Sin Tan. Long story short . A guy offered me prayer to recive the Holy Ghost baptism. He told me to open my mouth and let it go. Nothing happened. But clearly soe cah toa went through my mind. I never knew what tounges was let alone sounded like.
    We dont do that here. Years later I did some research and found as soon as I heard a girl pray in tounges, guess what came in my head. Soe Cah Toa. Hmmmmm. So at the computor I started praying in tounges. Ok that was fimne and nothing really happened that I noticed. I heard people laughing and all sorts of things never happened to me. I made a concerted effort to pary for extended periods, nothing of note happened.
    So that passed and after about a year I read a book by Dave Roberson, Walk of the Spirit walk of Power. Get the book and read it if you want to know about tounges. So at present I am alone in my room dying to self spending time in tounges. and I am telling you now. I cant contain the love of Christ that is coming out of me. I have no fear talking Jesus to anyone. and all the garbage in my life is falling off me. You dont have to pray in the spirit. But I can tell them that are looking and wondering. Do it now it is for everyone. I aint here to debate. You want it ask. You will recive it. took me a long time. My fault and a lack of knowledge held me back way to long.
     
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    Is that different than "Do you pray in the spirit", your O.P.?
     
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    Ok, time for another of my stories...and I'd like to say , also...there is nothing for me to debate either with any nay sayers.
    Soooo,short version, not my fault, I was in the Sun too long and got my usual heat stroke I had since a teen.
    Talking with those that have had it know and all say the same thing before I do!
    -It lasts hours.
    -Nothing really helps, no matter what you try
    -If you can manage to doze off, when you wake up it is a BIT better.
    -Your entire day is ruined...in bed, with a killer headache...eyes, neck, oh vey.

    Rolling my head on my pillow in huge pain, a thought came, "If I was ever going to pray in tongues this could be a good time."
    I do and maybe in 1 minute (not even 2) all my pain was gone.
    None lingered even a little.
    Praise God. ♡
     
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    No same meaning for me
     
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    No surprises there then. I am speaking in tounges just now as as I type. This proof that it is not from us.

     
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    Your a king He is king of kings. You could speak in tounges if you wanted to. Its so easy. look up a few vids and get it on man.
    For get the arguments against it. Its whats missing in the whole church. Two things satan stole big time tounges and healing from the church.
     
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    Not to be disrespectful, I do just fine in my native tongue, english. And to be honest, what benefit is derived from praying in tongues? I'm not slamming the gift of tongues, I just don't see the point. But of course, this is just my opinion...


    Again, not to be disrespectful, I'm quite positive that gifts of the Spirit aren't handed out after a video presentation. But that's just me......again.
     
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    If i lived beside ya and you wanted to pray in tounges. I believe you would be in a very very short time. God wants you to have it. And you already have the Holy Ghost. Its for YOUR edification. And if its a gift then why couldnt you just opick it up any where. My wife never chased after the stuff I have been running after in the past five years. I looked for God and He found me. I looked for healing and found it. I looked for tounges and found it. All of that came to my wife. Only two weeks ago she started praying in tounges and never made any attempt to find it or try it. It just came out of her mouth. She said I know it was not from me. They are not handed out from videos. but when you just open your mouth after seeing how it is done. You can participate right away. I really recomend the book I mentioned. So much of what that guy is saying I see in my life starting already.
    I believe the past five years for me where fantastic. and the next five are going to be supersonic. I believe most of what is coming is coming because of the edfication process that has started already with me. Every Christian I know. I am now telling them about tounges. I wont get into debates. I am just shearing what I believe. I am not saying you are debating with me. But please go look at some really short teaching vids and get it on. Or get Dave Robersons book. I have never been so excited in my life.
     
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    The title of the thread is 'do you pray in the Spirit'.

    Then, you ask are there any here who speak in tongues.

    Are you saying one cannot pray in the Spirit if they do not speak in tongues?

    Stranger
     
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    If God wanted me to have this gift, He wouldn't have me watch a video or read someone's book.

    Believing that Spiritual gifts of God can be had by simply watching a video is believing that man is able to override the will of God. That isn't possible. The only one who is able to plant these seeds of deception is the father of lies. If you're speaking in "tongues" because of what you learned from a video, one has to wonder what it is you're actually saying and to whom.

    I don't want to sound judgmental here, but the spirits are nothing to toy with. God is not going to go through man to impart His gifts.

    That's just what I believe...

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    A man went to a south Korean church and they were worshipping the Lord and some of them were praying in the spirit - tongues that is. One was praying in perfect English which they didn't know. They were saying all kinds of worshipful things but had no idea what they were saying!

    Harold Hill who wrote "how to live like a King's kid". Took an unbeliever to a prayer meeting in a home. This unbeliever was walking around listening to others pray in tongues- in the spirit- (read the book of Jude where he says stay built up by praying in the spirit)

    In awhile Harold say this scoffer off by himself weeping his eyes out. Brother Harold asked him what was wrong. The man explained that he was a student of extinct languages, especially one called "high German". While listening to a man praying in tongues he said the language was the ancient dead language of High German which very few have ever heard of.

    He understood what was being said, it was "WHO ARE YOU TO SCOFF AT MY GIFTS"? The Lord had used that ancient language to convince a man to unbeliever that it was all bonfide and from God. It made a believer out of him!

    Friends on Tuesday October 9th 1979 I was home and sick with a terrible headache. After awhile I felt better so got my bible, a lad of paper and a strong's concordance to do a Bible study. I was praying in the spirit, tongues that is and as I did I realized that the Holy Spirit was giving me the interpretation!

    Here's what I wrote down. It's on a plaque hanging on our wall where it's stayed. I heard it as King James English since all I read was the KJV.

    Thus says the Lord. I have done as I said and fulfilled my counsel. Now will my name be glorified in this thing which I spoke. Now will ears tingle at the testimony of this work. You have waited but I have waited too. I have heard you from the first time you ever cried out to me for a child. Because you looked to me and not to men have done this. The mouths of the scofferswi be shut at the telling. Fear not! The word of the Lord is good news! We will rejoice together in this!

    We went to the lab that week and my wife per the words of the Lord, was pregnant. She wrote his name in a baby book a d he was born nearly 9 months later on August 6 1980. We'd been married 14 years anx doctors said my wife's body killed my seed on contact. We'd had dreams, visions, prophesies regarding a son. Every child foretold on the Bible was a male. Our son Nathan is 36 now and is a man of God.
    This is a good example of tongues and interpretation of tongues. And a total miracle for us! Hallelujah.
     
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    Callin' it as I see it: It's you that doesn't want this gift...not God.
    And that's fine.

    If the water is there and you don't want to jump in, fine...don't blame the water...
    the water has nothing to do with it....'If the water wanted me to jump in,
    it would be 82 degrees..."
    It's all about what you desire or don't desire...either way is perfect.
     
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