Do you think Confederate statues in public should be removed?

[LouisWilliams]

The debate over Confederate statues -- and whether they should be allowed -- has been a fairly polarizing one in the United States.

I am aware that people here have very different political views -- yet I ask that people here try to respect each other's different opinions and perspectives. I was also somewhat surprised - only 53% of Democrats supported taking down the statues, according to this poll conducted last year.

Taking Down Confederate Statues Is Still Relatively Unpopular, but Opinion Is Shifting - Morning Consult
A majority of Americans want to preserve Confederate monuments: Reuters/Ipsos poll
Polls Find Little Support For Confederate Statue Removal -- But How You Ask Matters

What do most people here think about this particular controversial issue? Any strong arguments for or against?

P.S. Here is a video about the Civil War, from the Confederacy's perspective, I mean, I don't think I necessarily agree with the movie, but it does show that not all those who fought against the Union were cold-blooded monsters:

 

[Pythagorean12]

No, they should not be removed.
Blacks today that object to the statuary forget if it wasn't for that civil war, they'd still serve whites as property.
It's history. But in present day weak emotional infantalized people think if something hurts their feelings it must go.

Unfortunately, such people aren't as committed to belief that their ignorance must go. And education replace it.

And as long as we continue to placate the weak, we'll grow weak as a nation.

 

[amigo de christo]

No, they should not be removed.
Blacks today that object to the statuary forget if it wasn't for that civil war, they'd still serve whites as property.
It's history. But in present day weak emotional infantalized people think if something hurts their feelings it must go.

Unfortunately, such people aren't as committed to belief that their ignorance must go. And education replace it.

And as long as we continue to placate the weak, we'll grow weak as a nation.

Pull up a chair my friend . An escape of south america had this to say
about north america . And it wasnt very long ago they said it .
OH MY , said they , america is doing exactly what we did RIGHT BEFORE SOCIALISM TOOK OVER .
And it aint just america , its western socities .

 

[Pythagorean12]

Pull up a chair my friend . An escape of south america had this to say
about north america . And it wasnt very long ago they said it .
OH MY , said they , america is doing exactly what we did RIGHT BEFORE SOCIALISM TOOK OVER .
And it aint just america , its western socities .

True. For quite some time we've slowly been descending toward a socialist model. And what comes after Socialism?
We're seeing a descent toward that as well.

And what do we do? Some try to convince themselves and others it's a good thing.

Because they've never lived it.

 

[amigo de christo]

How does the new system take over , by eradicating the past , history , by re education , by getting the support of the churches .
TURNING even the churches , media and all into a social platform . MAKE IT SEEM as if it is all for the good of the people .
They been at work for years my friends . IT is now so ripe its about to take over completely . in part it already has .
We now live in a country , where its not those who vote that win elections , ITS THOSE WHO COUNT THE VOTES .
we no longer live in a three tier govt . you know executive judicial and legisliative . No the judicial has become legislative .
And we now have the most power force in effect . ITS THE FOURTH PART OF GOVT .
WHEN COOPERTIONS DO THE WILL OF GOVT , THE SOCIETY FALLS TOTAL PREY TO SAID GOVT . AND WE ARE NOW HERE .

 

[Enoch111]

What do most people here think about this particular controversial issue? Any strong arguments for or against?

The Civil war is a part of American history, and no "woke" radicals and Leftists have the right to try and change history by destroying statues and memorials. What they are really doing is destroying America from within. And all these people should have been arrested and locked up a long time ago.

From the Southern perspective, the Northern states were wrong to declare war in order to outlaw slavery. In any event it was a stupid war that should never have happened. But since both sides erected their statues, both side have the right to maintain their history. And those who hate American history should go to Cuba or North Korea or Iran.

 

[TLHKAJ]

Although it's history, we don't have to agree with a message that divides race against race. It's history. Most of our history is dark, including slavery.

I asked a friend who is a local chief of police what he thought about the Confederate or rebel flag. (He is black.) He said it doesn't bother him at all. He has white friends and even black friends with rebel flags and it just symbolizes going against the grain. He said it's what's in the heart of the person and their intentions that matters.

 

[Pythagorean12]

The Civil war is a part of American history, and no "woke" radicals and Leftists have the right to try and change history by destroying statues and memorials. What they are really doing is destroying America from within. And all these people should have been arrested and locked up a long time ago.

From the Southern perspective, the Northern states where wrong to declare war in order to outlaw slavery. In any event it was a stupid war that should never have happened. But since both sides erected their statues, both side have the right to maintain their history. And those who hate American history should go to Cuba or North Korea or Iran.

I don't think it was a stupid war.
There were many reasons for the Civil War. Slavery among them. Also a tarrif.

Further, what is often overlooked is that free northern blacks owned slaves. And many also fought in the war, and on both sides.

This statue issue isn't about anything other than race baiting, and trying to destroy America from within.

And one tactic being employed is exploiting the perpetual victim mentality that's been nurtured in the black community for generations.
And the Liberals are exploiting that now as they have always.

This country would change in that regard if black Democrats would wake up to the fact the Democrats have led them to be slaves ever since the Republicans freed them.

Now black voters think Democrats are giving them everything they need, but fail to realize it's slavery in a different package.

Edited typo

 

[marks]

The debate over Confederate statues -- and whether they should be allowed -- has been a fairly polarizing one in the United States.

I am aware that people here have very different political views -- yet I ask that people here try to respect each other's different opinions and perspectives. I was also somewhat surprised - only 53% of Democrats supported taking down the statues, according to this poll conducted last year.

Taking Down Confederate Statues Is Still Relatively Unpopular, but Opinion Is Shifting - Morning Consult
A majority of Americans want to preserve Confederate monuments: Reuters/Ipsos poll
Polls Find Little Support For Confederate Statue Removal -- But How You Ask Matters

What do most people here think about this particular controversial issue? Any strong arguments for or against?

P.S. Here is a video about the Civil War, from the Confederacy's perspective, I mean, I don't think I necessarily agree with the movie, but it does show that not all those who fought against the Union were cold-blooded monsters:

Standard Marxist procedure is to obliterate and rewrite history, and always tear down the monuments. The only monuments they want are to support their tyranny.

This is the monument they want, ‘If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face – for ever.’ (George Orwell, 1984).

So no, they should not be torn down. I say resist Marxist Communist Tyranny in all it's forms. Don't let them steal our story. Our history. Our nation.

Much love!

 

[marks]

P.S. Here is a video about the Civil War, from the Confederacy's perspective, I mean, I don't think I necessarily agree with the movie, but it does show that not all those who fought against the Union were cold-blooded monsters:

One reason that they want to remove statues. It was primarily Democrats who owned slaves, and who segregated the emancipated slaves (still trying to own them), and who resisted the Civil Rights Act, fillibustering it for 8 years. The Democrat party is the party of racism, and slavery, and they'd just a soon you didn't know that.

Much love!

 

[marks]

OH MY , said they , america is doing exactly what we did RIGHT BEFORE SOCIALISM TOOK OVER .

Just so. This is textbook takeover. Unbelievable! America!!!

Offenses will come, but woe to them by whom they come.

Much love!

 

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[Lifelong_sinner]

No, statues should not be removed.

 

[Pythagorean12]

Pray without ceasing.

Much love!

Where have we gotten with our prayers thus far?

 

[marks]

Where have we gotten with our prayers thus far?

We have need of endurance.

Luke 18:1 KJV And he spake a parable unto them to this end, that men ought always to pray, and not to faint;


Much love!

 

[Pythagorean12]

We have need of endurance.

Luke 18:1 KJV And he spake a parable unto them to this end, that men ought always to pray, and not to faint;


Much love!

Have you ever considered, the reason we have need of endurance is because God is a God of his word?
Psalm 115:3 Our God is in heaven; He does as He pleases.

God predestined all things. What is prayer but pleading he changes his mind.

 

[amigo de christo]

Just so. This is textbook takeover. Unbelievable! America!!!

Offenses will come, but woe to them by whom they come.

Much love!

The bigger picture is its leading all the nations right into the beast system my friend .
Beware of the metaverse brain washing that will be a coming as well .
Folks dont realize there is such things as sublimal messaging . They used it long ago , even in commericals .
My advice , dont strap on the head set and become part of that virtual reality of images in a false world .

 

[Paul Christensen]

The debate over Confederate statues -- and whether they should be allowed -- has been a fairly polarizing one in the United States.

I am aware that people here have very different political views -- yet I ask that people here try to respect each other's different opinions and perspectives. I was also somewhat surprised - only 53% of Democrats supported taking down the statues, according to this poll conducted last year.

Taking Down Confederate Statues Is Still Relatively Unpopular, but Opinion Is Shifting - Morning Consult
A majority of Americans want to preserve Confederate monuments: Reuters/Ipsos poll
Polls Find Little Support For Confederate Statue Removal -- But How You Ask Matters

What do most people here think about this particular controversial issue? Any strong arguments for or against?

P.S. Here is a video about the Civil War, from the Confederacy's perspective, I mean, I don't think I necessarily agree with the movie, but it does show that not all those who fought against the Union were cold-blooded monsters:

They were brave men who fought for what they believed in. They are a part of history although some would like to erase them from history and rewrite it to make out that these men were evil slave supporters, when in fact all they were, were soldiers loyal to the South and fought for its independence from the Union. They nearly won, and the mistake they made was the same mistake that Napoleon made in the early 19th Century, and the Japanese made in the mid 20th Century - they went too far from their sources of supply, and the union forces were able to cut their supply lines. If the South had just reinforced the borders of their chosen states and adopted a defensive strategy they would have held a very good chance of holding the Union off. They made the same mistake the allies did when they tried to take Arnhem (one bridge too far). Gettysburg for the South was their "one bridge too far".

 

[Taken]

Do you think Confederate statues in public should be removed?
OP^

No.
Division and turmoil in the States of America existed as part of American History.
Trying to "eradicate" History, simply means, "one can not handle the truth", and "are Blind when History repeats itself".

The "push" to remove Confederate statues, "hangs" a great deal on "reminders" of importing humans as "bonded" servants and slaves.

Bonded servants and slaves have a very long world History, (which continues to this day).

In America, "servitude" "bondage" "control" against ones will has under a Progressive Movement become transformed into a "new method". It's called "the welfare system"...whereby the willing
Petition the Government to Qualify them, to be MADE subject to the Government, "for housing, food, clothing, healthcare, education"...
...History repeated!
..."MADE subject to"..."IS" an individual that "IS" under the Control of "another individual or A "government"....
* THEY "are" YOUR MASTER.
* THEY "dictate", what Scraps THEY will give you...and when you can have those Scraps.

Superb ... housing, food, clothing, healthcare, education....for "unwilling" servants? Not so much.

Superb...housing, food, clothing, healthcare, education....for "willing" servants? Not so much.

If "anyone" is Providing "for you", they ARE your Master. And what they "give", they can "take away".

If American History is intolerable or offensive to the eyes of any person, close your eyes or remove oneself from the area....just as any prudent person does who sees "items" and "behaviors" in the public view intolerable or offensive.

It's called Liberty.
Take care of yourselves.
Destroying history, Destroying what an other has, Stealing what an others has, is a "Progressive Movement Farce" pushed by ONE who desires to BE the Master of others.
Open Ears, Open Eyes...Listen, Watch... who is Dictating, what you can and can not do, what you can and can not have.
* It may tickle your ears, when you gain by the taking from an other...
* Don't be naive or ignorant to history and the truth..."fear and freebies" are the cunning carrot dangling temptations,
To foster their desire to Control, until you are no longer "useful".


Glory to God,
Taken

 

[marks]

Have you ever considered, the reason we have need of endurance is because God is a God of his word?
Psalm 115:3 Our God is in heaven; He does as He pleases.

God predestined all things. What is prayer but pleading he changes his mind.

No, I don't agree with this. I believe God is fully honest and real, and when He urges us to be reconciled to Him, that's exactly what He is doing.

Much love!