Eden was established, by a pattern of Creation and Destruction. Thoughts?

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Hi there,

So I have arrived at the idea, that God established Eden as He said, Creating and Calling "Good", then allowing Change and Restarting. What I wanted to point out, is that this is a pattern. It is a pattern on the basis of the idea, that God kept moving through the Creation of Days, assigning each Day its own purpose and context, then giving it its own time and relation, viz, to other Days, which in turn constituted their own Year. This is the same act, for every Day and the same pattern for every Year. God does not start in another way.

God does not first establish darkness, and then discredit that that darkness means anything. God does not take from darkness something around which Creation revolves, and then Create and Create again pieces of that darkness. God keeps darkness where it is, even before He Creates anything and He does not detract from it, in an effort to make what He Creates "Greater". Rather God works His way around darkness, in a process of the Creation of Pattern, which relates one aspect of Creation to another, by the Day; that Day rises and is complete in what that Day rises for - it is in a sense a "Day" that is captured by what it is for. This is how God Creates and Destroys everything.

God Creates Days and then establishes that they are for something, which they cannot escape - the Days are beholden to what they are for, because God calls them "good" in that respect. This then becomes a pattern, of process, that has strength in its maintaining its part in the process of Creation and the establishment of the end in Destruction to which it is headed - not able to break away from the process of Creation, to avoid its Destruction at the end of its time. Thus the end becomes something that can be anticipated, as a looming Destruction, that removes the Creation or Day's meaning, in the place of another greater Day coming, in which all Days are united, but no longer apart from God.

That the Days end up no longer apart from God, points to the importance of God's rest. God allows His Spirit to encounter what He has Created and to cross over Destruction, with return to another Day - to become a part of the Pattern, in other words. This allows for dreams and visions and all manner of discovery, for which Man owes his existence, and the meaning of it. Man is able to grasp through rest, that God is for him, even in the midst of him returning to dust, by God. Not that God hates when He Destroys, but that this is means by which Man is able to cause his soul to transition into eternity, Growing And Sustaining in pattern, just as Creation and Destruction were established in pattern.

I hope you can appreciate that God has the power to Create and to Destroy, and that He does this in a way that is consistent with His desire to create Pattern and Purpose for Man.

God bless.
 

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Hi there,

So I have arrived at the idea, that God established Eden as He said, Creating and Calling "Good", then allowing Change and Restarting. What I wanted to point out, is that this is a pattern. It is a pattern on the basis of the idea, that God kept moving through the Creation of Days, assigning each Day its own purpose and context, then giving it its own time and relation, viz, to other Days, which in turn constituted their own Year. This is the same act, for every Day and the same pattern for every Year. God does not start in another way.

God does not first establish darkness, and then discredit that that darkness means anything. God does not take from darkness something around which Creation revolves, and then Create and Create again pieces of that darkness. God keeps darkness where it is, even before He Creates anything and He does not detract from it, in an effort to make what He Creates "Greater". Rather God works His way around darkness, in a process of the Creation of Pattern, which relates one aspect of Creation to another, by the Day; that Day rises and is complete in what that Day rises for - it is in a sense a "Day" that is captured by what it is for. This is how God Creates and Destroys everything.

God Creates Days and then establishes that they are for something, which they cannot escape - the Days are beholden to what they are for, because God calls them "good" in that respect. This then becomes a pattern, of process, that has strength in its maintaining its part in the process of Creation and the establishment of the end in Destruction to which it is headed - not able to break away from the process of Creation, to avoid its Destruction at the end of its time. Thus the end becomes something that can be anticipated, as a looming Destruction, that removes the Creation or Day's meaning, in the place of another greater Day coming, in which all Days are united, but no longer apart from God.

That the Days end up no longer apart from God, points to the importance of God's rest. God allows His Spirit to encounter what He has Created and to cross over Destruction, with return to another Day - to become a part of the Pattern, in other words. This allows for dreams and visions and all manner of discovery, for which Man owes his existence, and the meaning of it. Man is able to grasp through rest, that God is for him, even in the midst of him returning to dust, by God. Not that God hates when He Destroys, but that this is means by which Man is able to cause his soul to transition into eternity, Growing And Sustaining in pattern, just as Creation and Destruction were established in pattern.

I hope you can appreciate that God has the power to Create and to Destroy, and that He does this in a way that is consistent with His desire to create Pattern and Purpose for Man.

God bless.
So what of the establishment of the Garden?
 

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The garden was only meant to be good and was the purpose to make man God's servant what was the purpose of EDEN people ? Is to make heeaven on the earth he wanted us to do the same thing in heaven to do it in Eden to sing holy, holy, holy, is the lord and that is all. We were never meant to war or build.

No, Gottseravnt no destruction was what G-d wanted in Eden if so Eden would of been destroyed it would be destruction but the bible says God took the eden to heaven and in the end it will descend from heaven and God originaly intention will be complete.
 

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The garden was only meant to be good and was the purpose to make man God's servant what was the purpose of EDEN people ? Is to make heeaven on the earth he wanted us to do the same thing in heaven to do it in Eden to sing holy, holy, holy, is the lord and that is all. We were never meant to war or build.

No, Gottseravnt no destruction was what G-d wanted in Eden if so Eden would of been destroyed it would be destruction but the bible says God took the eden to heaven and in the end it will descend from heaven and God originaly intention will be complete.
I haven't read in the bible about Eden being taken to heaven, where is that?
 

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Why The Garden of Eden was Moved to Heaven
Verse of the Day:
“He who has an ear, let him hear and heed what the Spirit says to the churches. To him who overcomes [the world through believing that Jesus is the Son of God], I will grant [the privilege] to eat [the fruit] from the tree of life, which is in the Paradise of God.’” (REVELATION 2:7 AMP)
read the whole thing.


Eden was taken from earth so the flood would not destroy it please read.
 

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Why The Garden of Eden was Moved to Heaven
Verse of the Day:
“He who has an ear, let him hear and heed what the Spirit says to the churches. To him who overcomes [the world through believing that Jesus is the Son of God], I will grant [the privilege] to eat [the fruit] from the tree of life, which is in the Paradise of God.’” (REVELATION 2:7 AMP)
read the whole thing.


Eden was taken from earth so the flood would not destroy it please read.
I'd say of the garden yes, not sure on the tree of knowledge maybe a select collection in the garden.

Eden was a place the garden resided. Later Cain went out from Eden east to the land of Nod. Both places simply part of the earth outside of the garden.
 
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