Eternal Life is Now not Later

[robert derrick]

Being spiritually clean in Christ Jesus with eternal life, and doing righteousness of God, is either now or never.

“For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.”

11And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. 12He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life. 13These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

The gift of eternal life by God is now, not later. Because the gift is freely given to them that repent of sinning now, which cannot be later after the grave, where there is only judgment and no more repentance.

Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.

And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness. And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.

We receive the eternal life of Jesus Christ now by refusing to continue with the wicked of the world, and escape their lust and corruption.

To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life.

To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:

But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

Those who seek the kingdom of God first in this life, receive the glory, honor, and immortality of His kingdom, which is Jesus Christ in us the hope of glory.

Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.

We are either sons of God now, and have this hope of purity and glory in us now, or we never will later after the grave, where there is no hope of repentance and eternal purity of soul and life.

 

[robert derrick]

There are those that say having eternal life and living righteously, is not possible in mortal flesh now, but is only a hope for later.

They say so, because they refuse it for now, in order to continue sinning unto the grave.

And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

Those who repent not, but claim a resurrection from the dead later unto righteousness of eternal life, are those without hope in this life, neither keeping God's commandments, nor knowing Jesus Christ, nor having His Spirit:

These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;

17But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;

18How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.

19These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.

They are spots among the clean and pure body of Christ, and they teach doctrines spotted by the flesh. They separate themselves unto themselves, to claim among themselves a hope for doing righteousness later only, but not now.

That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.

They think to be presented clean and spotless from sinning, only after the grave, but never now.

And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

We either have eternal life, glory, honor, immortality preserved blameless in spirit and body now, or never later, where their is no hope to cleanse ourselves anymore through Jesus Christ:

Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.

 

[Robert Gwin]

Being spiritually clean in Christ Jesus with eternal life, and doing righteousness of God, is either now or never.

“For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.”

11And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. 12He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life. 13These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

The gift of eternal life by God is now, not later. Because the gift is freely given to them that repent of sinning now, which cannot be later after the grave, where there is only judgment and no more repentance.

Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.

And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness. And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.

We receive the eternal life of Jesus Christ now by refusing to continue with the wicked of the world, and escape their lust and corruption.

To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life.

To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:

But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

Those who seek the kingdom of God first in this life, receive the glory, honor, and immortality of His kingdom, which is Jesus Christ in us the hope of glory.

Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.

We are either sons of God now, and have this hope of purity and glory in us now, or we never will later after the grave, where there is no hope of repentance and eternal purity of soul and life.

Wow Robert, show me the people that are living eternally, I want to go there sir. Can you tell me who is the oldest among them? Is there any who date back to when Jesus was on earth, would love to hear their stories sir.

 

[robert derrick]

Wow Robert, show me the people that are living eternally, I want to go there sir. Can you tell me who is the oldest among them? Is there any who date back to when Jesus was on earth, would love to hear their stories sir.

A perfect example of the eternal difference between the spiritual and carnal minded.

Scripture speaks of having Jesus Christ and His eternal Spirit with eternal life now, and you can only think of your mortal body, and so mock it:

“How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.”

Since you confess not having the eternal Spirit and Life of Christ within your soul now, but only mock it, then we see the destructive end of your doctrine for a created christ.

But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves.

These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.

And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?

You don't believe Jesus, because you only care about your flesh.

Scripture of God speaks to the soul with ears for the Spirit, not to the flesh with ears only for the flesh.

It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

“He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.”

The spiritual man hears what the Spirit says to the soul and heart, but the natural man only thinks of the wind and natural air for the body.

To the carnally minded, eternal life for the soul, while still in mortal flesh, is nothing but hot air to laugh at, for now:

Turn you at my reproof: behold, I will pour out my spirit unto you, I will make known my words unto you.

Because I have called, and ye refused; I have stretched out my hand, and no man regarded; 25But ye have set at nought all my counsel, and would none of my reproof:

I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh; 27When your fear cometh as desolation, and your destruction cometh as a whirlwind; when distress and anguish cometh upon you. 28Then shall they call upon me, but I will not answer; they shall seek me early, but they shall not find me: 29For that they hated knowledge, and did not choose the fear of the LORD.

 

[friend of]

Okay so you're saying your physical body isn't going to die?

 

[Enoch111]

Okay so you're saying your physical body isn't going to die?

Resurrection is guaranteed by God. That should suffice.

 

[mailmandan]

Resurrection is guaranteed by God. That should suffice.

Amen! Ephesians 1:13 - In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, 14 who is the guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory.

John 5:24 - Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life.

 

[Robert Gwin]

A perfect example of the eternal difference between the spiritual and carnal minded.

Scripture speaks of having Jesus Christ and His eternal Spirit with eternal life now, and you can only think of your mortal body, and so mock it:

“How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.”

Since you confess not having the eternal Spirit and Life of Christ within your soul now, but only mock it, then we see the destructive end of your doctrine for a created christ.

But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves.

These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.

And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?

You don't believe Jesus, because you only care about your flesh.

Scripture of God speaks to the soul with ears for the Spirit, not to the flesh with ears only for the flesh.

It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

“He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.”

The spiritual man hears what the Spirit says to the soul and heart, but the natural man only thinks of the wind and natural air for the body.

To the carnally minded, eternal life for the soul, while still in mortal flesh, is nothing but hot air to laugh at, for now:

Turn you at my reproof: behold, I will pour out my spirit unto you, I will make known my words unto you.

Because I have called, and ye refused; I have stretched out my hand, and no man regarded; 25But ye have set at nought all my counsel, and would none of my reproof:

I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh; 27When your fear cometh as desolation, and your destruction cometh as a whirlwind; when distress and anguish cometh upon you. 28Then shall they call upon me, but I will not answer; they shall seek me early, but they shall not find me: 29For that they hated knowledge, and did not choose the fear of the LORD.

Strangely enough Robert, Jehovah created us from the dust of the ground sir. We are in fact flesh. The Bible does offer real hope to us however, in that as sure as God exists, some of us will be granted eternal life, isn't that a nice prospect Rob?

 

[robert derrick]

Okay so you're saying your physical body isn't going to die?

Yes, My mortal body will live forever on this earth, even after this earth has been scorched and flees from the face of Him that sits on the great white throne.

After you're dead and gone, I'll still be here kicking, and dancing under the stars to the Moonlight Sonata.

If we take off our subjective vail, and read objectively, then we will at least understand what someone else is saying, even if we don't agree. At least then, there can be a reasonable exchange.

This is, if we want to understand what someone else is saying. Otherwise, there's no point in reading anything we don't already believe.

 

[robert derrick]

Strangely enough Robert, Jehovah created us from the dust of the ground sir. We are in fact flesh. The Bible does offer real hope to us however, in that as sure as God exists, some of us will be granted eternal life, isn't that a nice prospect Rob?

Once again, we see the mortal soul theology of natural man.

However, natural men are more honest about things. They say there is no soul nor spirit, and natural theologians give lip service to it, by making a difference without a distinction.

 

[Robert Gwin]

Once again, we see the mortal soul theology of natural man.

However, natural men are more honest about things. They say there is no soul nor spirit, and natural theologians give lip service to it, by making a difference without a distinction.

The Bible uses terms such as soul and spirit Rob, so they are important to know what they mean and how they relate in context. Ordinarily soul is used to describe a breathing creature, it was first used in the Bible on the fifth day of creation is verse 20 of Chap 1 of Genesis, to describe creatures of the waters. Spirit is used in many ways, first mentioned in verse 2 as God's spirit being used in creation, and again when God put breath into Adam Gen 2:7 Ruach which is translated several ways was the original word. Ps 146:4 shows that when that spirit/breath goes out, we die. Nothing spectacularly different for humans or animals they simply die and have the same eventuality Ecc 3:19,20

It was satan that said we will not die sir, but Jehovah said we will. I tend to side with Jehovah on this one Rob, how bout yourself?

 

[robert derrick]

The Bible uses terms such as soul and spirit Rob, so they are important to know what they mean and how they relate in context. Ordinarily soul is used to describe a breathing creature, it was first used in the Bible on the fifth day of creation is verse 20 of Chap 1 of Genesis, to describe creatures of the waters. Spirit is used in many ways, first mentioned in verse 2 as God's spirit being used in creation, and again when God put breath into Adam Gen 2:7 Ruach which is translated several ways was the original word. Ps 146:4 shows that when that spirit/breath goes out, we die. Nothing spectacularly different for humans or animals they simply die and have the same eventuality Ecc 3:19,20

It was satan that said we will not die sir, but Jehovah said we will. I tend to side with Jehovah on this one Rob, how bout yourself?

Old hat. Disagreed before. Still do.

I only respond to something new, not something I've already responded to.

 

[Robert Gwin]

Old hat. Disagreed before. Still do.

I only respond to something new, not something I've already responded to.

No problem Robert, I seriously doubt if it is wrong, but if it is, what does it matter?

 

[L.A.M.B.]

Yes, My mortal body will live forever on this earth, even after this earth has been scorched and flees from the face of Him that sits on the great white throne.

After you're dead and gone, I'll still be here kicking, and dancing under the stars to the Moonlight Sonata.

If we take off our subjective vail, and read objectively, then we will at least understand what someone else is saying, even if we don't agree. At least then, there can be a reasonable exchange.

This is, if we want to understand what someone else is saying. Otherwise, there's no point in reading anything we don't already believe.

I do not know where your thoughts, opinions nor interpretations come from!
I DO KNOW WHO DOES NOT ENDORSE THEM.......GOD !

I have and will report you instantly on every junk thread you produce.

You must be saved from sin by God through the D,B, & R of the Christ or you will die for the wages of sin not once but TWICE!

Repent today and be saved!

 

[robert derrick]

I do not know where your thoughts, opinions nor interpretations come from!
I DO KNOW WHO DOES NOT ENDORSE THEM.......GOD !

I have and will report you instantly on every junk thread you produce.

You must be saved from sin by God through the D,B, & R of the Christ or you will die for the wages of sin not once but TWICE!

Repent today and be saved!

Whatever. You try to imply I am preaching immortality of our bodies on earth, and I mock your foolishness.

Come back when you're serious.

 

[L.A.M.B.]

1 st. ,you don't preach nor teach.
Posting a lot of nonsense is a waste of these forums.
2. nd, salvation is needed to carry the Gospel of Jesus. Many agnostic & atheists can quote anything.
3. Antagonism can be profitable in getting rebellious ppl to move but you just seem to want to antagonize other in divisive contentious ways!

I'll pretend you are NOT here?

 

[rwb]

Wow Robert, show me the people that are living eternally, I want to go there sir. Can you tell me who is the oldest among them? Is there any who date back to when Jesus was on earth, would love to hear their stories sir.

I am, while still clothed in this physical body of death eternally saved through Christ's life-giving Spirit in me. Yes, my physical body is destined to die, but I as spiritual life through His Spirit will never die. I long for Christ to return to resurrect and change my physical body from mortal to immortal and corruptible to incorruptible so my eternal spirit and new immortal, incorruptible physical body can be reunited to live with Christ forever on the new earth.

 

[robert derrick]

I am, while still clothed in this physical body of death eternally saved through Christ's life-giving Spirit in me. Yes, my physical body is destined to die, but I as spiritual life through His Spirit will never die. I long for Christ to return to resurrect and change my physical body from mortal to immortal and corruptible to incorruptible so my eternal spirit and new immortal, incorruptible physical body can be reunited to live with Christ forever on the new earth.

Amen.

Those who wait for have eternal life and immortality, only after the grave, will wait too long.

We either have Christ and His eternal Spirit dwelling within our hearts and souls now in this life, or never.

And in this life, God prefers now, not later:

For he saith, I have heard thee in a time accepted, and in the day of salvation have I succoured thee: behold, now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation.

 

[Robert Gwin]

I am, while still clothed in this physical body of death eternally saved through Christ's life-giving Spirit in me. Yes, my physical body is destined to die, but I as spiritual life through His Spirit will never die. I long for Christ to return to resurrect and change my physical body from mortal to immortal and corruptible to incorruptible so my eternal spirit and new immortal, incorruptible physical body can be reunited to live with Christ forever on the new earth.

God stated people die sir, it was satan that said they don't. The Bible is clear that the dead are not living in another realm Rw.

 

[Behold]

Being spiritually clean in Christ Jesus with eternal life, and doing righteousness of God, is either now or never.


We receive the eternal life of Jesus Christ now by refusing to continue with the wicked of the world, and escape their lust and corruption.

Robert, What you posted is self righteous = self effort to try to go to heaven.
That's the devil's gospel.

The New Testament's Gospel says that "all who call on the name of Jesus, shall be saved".

"faith is counted as RIGHTEOUSNESS"
"Justification by FAITH"
"the work of GOD......is that you BELIEVE in Jesus, whom God sent".

Your "gospel" Robert, over and over, that you post, is : Galatians 1:8

Jesus said...>"all that believe in me, i give unto them, eternal life, and they shall never perish".

Your Gospel, Robert, is not related to the Cross or to Faith, or to the New Testament.
Your Gospel, rejects the Blood of Jesus and the Cross of Christ.
This is why none of your posts, or Threads, ever talk about the Cross.
There is NO CROSS of CHRIST in your fake "gospel" of works and self effort = Legalism