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  1. Willie T

    Willie T Well-Known Member

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    I thought some of you might get a kick out of this excerpt from an old book I almost forgot I had.

    Failed Prophecies

    What's a failed prophet to do? What would you do? Since 1855, dispensationalism's supposed experts in "fulfilled prophecy in our day” have told millions of their followers (i.e., victims) that the Rapture was just around the corner because Russia ("Magog") will soon invade Israel. Then came the establishment of the nation of Israel on May 14, 1948. The generation of the fig tree had begun! Only 40 more years until the Millennium! Only 33 more years until the absolutely Secret Rapture! 1981 is coming! Get ready! Get Set!

    [This was written 26 years ago. (It is 2019 as of this post) Willie T]

    No go; 1981 came and went. Nothing happened. The next major date was May 14, 1988, the 40th anniversary of the establishment of the State of Israel — the "generation of the fig tree,” 1948-1988. May 14 came and went. Nothing happened. No Rapture. Again.

    "No, no,” said Edgar C. Whisenant in July, 1988, "it's going to be this September!” September came and went. Nothing happened. "No, no,” said Mr. Whisenant, "I forgot about the extra year in zero A.D. It's going to be in September, 1989.” September, 1989, came and went. Nothing happened. In November, the Berlin Wall came down. A big problem was brewing. Where was national Israel's invader? No invasion — no Rapture!

    But then came hope! Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait on August 2, 1990. "Wait, wait!” the cries came from The Church of Paperback Sensationalism. (I call this theology dispensensationalism.) "It really will be Babylon. It won't be Russia after all. We've been wrong since 1855. No problem, though. We just need to shift a few gears. It's Iraq. Baghdad. The restoration of Babylon is almost here. It's coming soon!” Dallas Seminary professor Charles Dyer's book was published in January, 1991, The Rise of Babylon: Sign of the End Time. Babylon was on the map again! So was Dallas Seminary. Hot stuff!

    Even before Dr. Dyer got into the race for royalties, retired Dallas Seminary president John Walvoord spotted a fabulous new market for his 1974 Armageddon prophecy book that had gone out of print. Once again, the gullible victims streamed into the book stores to get the inside dope. The cash registers hummed. Royalties flowed. One million copies of this resurrected potboiler had been sold by February (Time, Feb. 11, 1991).

    But then a funny thing happened on the night of January 16, 1991. Our Air Force began the smashing of "Babylon.” Over the next month, bombs smashed Iraq flat. Flatter than the collected works of Hal Lindsey. Thud. "It's revised edition time!"

    Hoaxed Again!
    The realization began to dawn on the hapless troops in the pews: hoaxed again. Again! Nuts! People don't like to be hoaxed. Christians don't like to be hoaxed in the name of Jesus. Fundamentalists love to be thrilled. They love sensationalism. But at some point, their resentment about being hoaxed overcomes their love of endlessly false prophecies.

    Then came the week of August 19. Thud. Down went Dzerzhinsky's statue. Down went the dreams of the Communist Party's leaders. Boris Pugo shot his wife and killed himself. Marshal Akhromeyev committed suicide. Soviet Communism died. It's over.

    So is Hal Lindsey's reputation as a prophet. So is John Walvoord's. Walvoord, at 80, lived to see it. I regard this as evidence that God has a marvelous sense of humor.

    I wonder how it feels. To be a Communist who lives long enough to have seen this. To be a best-selling paperback book author whose specialty is false prophecies about Russia's coming invasion of Israel. To see the work of your life get flushed down the commode of history. ("This can't be happening. It just can't!") It must be painful. I hope so.

    The day after Dzerzhinsky's statue crashed to the ground in what was then called Dzerzhinsky Square, but what will soon be called something else, Paul Crouch announced to his Trinity Broadcasting Network (TBN) viewers: "We need to get Hal Lindsey on the show to explain the meaning of what has happened.” Indeed you do, Paul. Let him try to reconcile these events for your emotionally victimized followers. Let him play the "identify Babylon” game one more time. Let's see Hal Lindsey dance the "Whisenant two-step.” It greatly resembles "Montezuma's two-step.” In both dances, the pressure is intense. There will be dozens of Whisenant two-steppers in 1992, the year of the revised editions.

    Rapture Postponed
    It's all over. The curtain has come down. The Rapture has been postponed. Again. A dispensationalist can still argue that the inevitable invasion of Israel by Russia may take place in a hundred years or a thousand, but the troops in the pews have been told for 135 years that this event is imminent. The Rapture was due at any moment because Russia was going to invade the State of Israel in any moment plus seven years. "The clock of prophecy is ticking again!” shouted all those best-selling authors who never bothered to tell their hapless followers that according to original dispensational theology, the clock of prophecy will not start ticking until after the Rapture. It's "any-moment Rapture” vs. "ticking clock today."

    Even John Walvoord couldn't resist those fabulous book royalties (1.6 million copies, as of August). He had to get back into the pop-dispensationalist parade. He announced that the clock of prophecy was again ticking (USA Today, Jan. 19, 1991). He abandoned the doctrine of the any-moment Rapture, which he had long taught. He thereby baptized Hal Lindsey's "just around the corner” eschatology. And then… thud. Goodbye reputation.

    Smashed. Smashed. Smashed by Norman Schwarzkopf in January and by Boris Yeltsin in August. Flattened. Dead. "Rapture postponed indefinitely.” What now?
     
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  2. Nancy

    Nancy Well-Known Member

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    I've been meaning to check out John Walvoord.
    It's all sensationalism with these folk. I used to BE one. LOOOONG time ago.
    Well, what to do with the false prophets of today? Well, we can't likely stone them like they were in the OT. They will answer to God. As they say, "it all comes out in the wash" ♥
     
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  3. Willie T

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    I've got a ton of those older books. They often are so much more entertaining to read than some of the "modern" stuff.

    Here is a site I buy from a lot (they're cheap), with some of his books.
    John F. Walvoord Books | List of books by author John F. Walvoord
     
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    They weren't dispensationalism's "experts" ---They were Never called that either- FAR from it.
    The bible tells us NO ONE KNOWS THE DAY or the HOUR
    Matt 24:36 "But no one knows of that day and hour, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but my Father only."
    Satan will do anything to take away God's people's hope of His coming , like inspiring some fools to make stupid claims that none of the actual PreTribers believed in, in order to mock the Pre-Trib belief.
     
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    Willie T Well-Known Member

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    There is space right here for you to place a list of those whom you consider "Dispensationalism's experts." (even though the author called those few he mentioned, "supposed experts.")

    I think we would all be interested.
     
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    They were not experts ---period. Supposed or otherwise.
     
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    Willie T Well-Known Member

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    Did you miss what I asked you to submit for our edification?
     
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    Willie T Well-Known Member

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    I can think of one: Charles C. Ryrie. Would he be on your list?
     
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    I'll push the list a bit more... Besides Charles Ryrie, leading dispensational theologians include John Walvoord, J. Dwight Pentecost, Norman Geisler and Charles Feinberg. Popular dispensational pastors and writers include; Charles Swindoll, Dave Hunt, Jack Van Impe and Charles Stanley. Chuck Smith and the Calvary Chapel movement represent the Charismatic side of dispensationalism.
     
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    tzcho2 Well-Known Member

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    Popular is not = expert.
    Personally, I know of no "experts" in any biblical doctrines and I've never in any conversation used that term and never thought of anyone as an "expert".
     
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    Harvest 1874 Well-Known Member

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    Don't forget our old friend Harold Camping who predicted the rapture to take place May 21, 2011
     
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    Camping not an expert but an idiot. It is obviously unbiblical to make any predictions-- period.
    All the mockers of the Pre-trib belief ....just predicted in Bible scripture. The more hate poured towards the pre-tribbers the more I look up with joy for His appearing! :D
     
  14. Willie T

    Willie T Well-Known Member

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    Well, I do have to agree that Camping was just another Rapture Nut, not any sort of Theologian.
     
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    You certainly have a hatred for 'dipensationalism'. The old book you almost forgot you had, what was the title and author?

    You say many hard things about dispensationalists yet you don't provide the quotes and where they came from.

    You act like those who believe as you do...do not write and sell books. Do you own any books that represent your belief? And I guess they delivered them to your house free of charge. Because they don't believe in taking any money for books they write and publish. Correct?

    I'm sure amillennialist's don't take money for their books....Not!

    Stranger
     
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    I am interested. What made you one? What made you decide to no longer be one?

    Stranger
     
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    No! He is JUST A NUT. Stop being insulting.
     
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    Willie T Well-Known Member

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    Uh... you might want to go read the OP again. I didn't say a thing about any of that. I only said I thought some people would get a kick out of that excerpt.

    I have about 15 books by people who don't support Dispensationalism.... and I have not yet paid one red cent for any of them. Yes, downloads were offered free of charge. (PS... they aren't amillennialists. They are Postmillennialists.)
     
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    Don't forget Dr. Thomas Ice.
     
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    Some things don't have to be said to make them apparent btw. So, why would people "get a kick" out of that excerpt? it sounds like sneering. I don't pay any heed to people who make prophetic predictions of a few things including most importantly anything to do with the Lord Jesus' appearing.
    Seems to me you want others to jump on your nasty bandwagon to mock those who believe in the rapture and the rapture itself? or is it also to mock and take jabs at those who take a literal interpretation of the Bible?
     
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