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Faith without works (backslid).

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  1. Behold

    Behold Well-Known Member

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    "faith without works is dead"..

    Now, here is how the Legalist twist this verse into a heretical pretzel.
    They ruin it like this.....>"faith without works is dead, so in that case you have lost your salvation".

    But James is not talking about your Redemption, or your Blood Atonement, or your Eternal life, that you already have, the instant you 1st Believed and were born again.
    Listen.... the original faith you had, in Christ, at first.....that first time you truly believed that Jesus is The Savior, the Son.....God saw this faith in your heart, ......> He immediately = "Faith is counted as Righteousness".....accepted your faith and gave you HIS Righteousness as "The Gift of Righteousness", and you were in that very SECOND >born again.
    So, that settles your salvation..... You dont have to strain and worry and try to work up a feeling for the rest of your life to try to convince yourself that you still have faith.
    Dont be that carnal person.
    Instead simply TRUST that God does not Lie, and He said that if you take His Son as your Savior, = DID YOU ????? then He will take you as His SON, His Daughter, His FAMILY MEMBER, and He DID.
    And when HE DID, you were born again.

    Later, after you are born again...if you are backslid, (dead faith) and you are talking to James the Apostle, and he is telling you that your faith is dead......He's not saying your Salvation is Gone, .. he's teaching you that the proof of Faith, is that you possess it >show it< before others.

    James says...>"i will show YOU YOU YOU YOU YOU my FAITH, by my WORKS"..

    So, he is not showing GOD his faith, as God sees his HEART........but instead He is saying that "faith without works", is SEEN TO BE DEAD, in the viewpoint of other's.....as "by their FRUIT (works) you shall KNOW THEM.." = The Christian.

    Other believers and lost sinners, recognize us by our "spiritual fruit"., and if we are a long time without showing any before others, then, we are backslidden, or as James defines it as ."dead faith".
    So, TURN.....go back to FIRST LOVE.....GET BACK IN THE FLOW OF GOD........ GET BUSY.


    So, that is what James is teaching ..
     
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    Faith itself is A work, remembers works alone do not save you. But faith at Jesus you say it so simple but it's complex depending on the person and situation. Put it in God's hand and pray to him and he will guide you.
     
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    @grumix8 Ephesians 2.8-9...
     
  4. Behold

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    Faith isn't a work, regarding salvation.
    And James explains that you show that you have inner faith, by bearing fruit. by, a certain lifestyle that when seen by others, is proof you have this inner faith.
    Faith in Christ that God accepted to give a person the "new Birth", is an inner trust that God can SEE.
    He can SEE, motive, imaginations, faith.........inside you, because God knows your Thoughts.

    And example would be Simon the Pharisee who was watching a redeemed whore wash Jesus' feet with her tears.
    and Simon's THOUGHTS were known to Jesus, and He responded to Simon's THOUGHTS, with a lesson, a parable.

    So, in this same way, God sees your FAITH.....as well as your motives and your imaginations and your secrets.
     
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