We live in the greatest of times for several reasons, but the number one reason is the fulfilling of the reason for all things. The reason for creation, the reason men and women came into exsistence to begin with. Before anything exsisted but a Father and Son. In the glory that Jesus had with his Father something was taking place. A conversation if you will took place, I'm sure more than once as the details would all be worked out.
The Son loves the Father and the Father loved the Son. The Son knows how much the Father loved the Son but more than that He sees the Father loved being Father to Him. The Son's desire is to give the Father what He wants which is to be a Father to more son's like unto the only Son. The only way that could happen in a plan to have more son's was for the only Son to give his life for a creation that was being planned. (They would be free moral agents).
The Son loved the Father so that! He would say to His Father "send me l will go."
For the plan to work out it must be through me, the Son. So the conversation took place before anything was created, a plan to create a thing and place Himself in the creature constituting a birth. It would be a new birth but nonetheless it would literally be a birthing as the natural as the natural birth take place.
1 These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee:
2 As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.
3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
4 I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.
5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was. - John 17:1-5.
The Son loves the Father and the Father loved the Son. The Son knows how much the Father loved the Son but more than that He sees the Father loved being Father to Him. The Son's desire is to give the Father what He wants which is to be a Father to more son's like unto the only Son. The only way that could happen in a plan to have more son's was for the only Son to give his life for a creation that was being planned. (They would be free moral agents).
The Son loved the Father so that! He would say to His Father "send me l will go."
For the plan to work out it must be through me, the Son. So the conversation took place before anything was created, a plan to create a thing and place Himself in the creature constituting a birth. It would be a new birth but nonetheless it would literally be a birthing as the natural as the natural birth take place.
1 These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee:
2 As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.
3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
4 I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.
5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was. - John 17:1-5.