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[Behold]

Reader,

Lets look deeper now., into this "Doctrine of Devils" that started with Calvin, and was evolved into Hyper-Calvinism (TULIP) "the 5 points".

A "TULIP"> a hyper calvinist, a "5-point">.. is one who believes in Calvinism = extremism .

So, both the Calvinist and the Hyper, have been led to believe that Paul the Apostle is a Calvinist. a 5 Point Hyper Calvinist.
And that is what they TEACH and BELIEVE.

So, lets look at that, and then i'll show you one more, in the next post..

First, lets understand why a person goes to hell and not to heaven..
Its simply because they "died in their sin, never forgiven", and were never born again. So, they died separated from God, by their Sin..
So, that situation, does not allow you to go to Heaven, because you were not forgiven all your sin.... born 'In Christ" as "one with God", before you died.
This is why Jesus told us.....>"YOU, MUST, be born again", and if you are not you are not a Son/Daughter of God when you died, and so your eternity is spent, where those who are not born again Sons/Daughters of God, end up... and that is not in Heaven......
There is only one other option. : HELL.

Now, Calvin and the Hyper-Calvinist, teach that Paul is a 5-point Hyper Calvinist, as they teach that a few verses that Paul wrote, that they SEE as meaning what Calvin teaches and others who evolved Calvins theology in Hyper-Calvinism.., proves that Paul is a Calvinist, and a Hyper Calvinist.
They believe that a few of Paul's verses teach the 5-points of Hyper- Calvinism as well as Calvinism.

So, listen now.... as you have to see this... in your understanding.

If Paul is a Calvinist, then Jesus is a Calvinist....... as Paul RECEIVED all His Theology "not from any man, but from the LORD", Himself.
So, If Paul is a Calvinist, then Jesus is a Calvinist., according to Calvinism and Hyper Calvinism that is "the 5 Points"..(TULIP).

Therefore, if Paul and The Lord Jesus The Christ are both Calvinists, then they will understand "pre-destined" to believe."
They will understand "pre-chosen" to believe"
They will understand "God causes you to believe or you can't".
And they will teach that always.

Now, lets look at some Verses..

1.) "their remainth no more sacrifice for your sin" because you have "willfully sinned", the sin of UNBELIEF... "just as your Father's did".

So, those verses are Hebrews 6 & 10.. .and this one..

“'"You stiff-necked people! Your hearts and ears are still uncircumcised. You are just like your ancestors: You ALWAYS RESIST the HOLY Spirit.!""""

So, Hyper Calvinism, teaches that this isn't possible, as you have no free will..
Yet if the Forum member can read, you Just read PAUL tell Christ rejectors, that "THEY...ALWAYS resist the Holy Spirit."
This means that Paul is one confused Calvinist, Hyper Calvinist, or that Calvinism and the "5-points" (TULIP) is a "doctrine of Devils"., as Paul just blamed them for their "resisting the Holy Spirit" that the '5-points" of Hyper Calvinism, says isn't possible.

Now when you read that "you always RESIST THE HOLY SPIRIT", then that is "you are resisting the Truth, that is the Gospel being revealed to you".., and that is also Hebrews 10".. ."If you willfully sin"...(will not believe in Jesus, willfully) there remainth no more JESUS FOR YOU... "there remaineth no more SACRIFICE for your SIN." because of your Willful decision to reject the Sacrifice who is JESUS ON THE CROSS.

So, then If Paul is the "5-point" Hyper Calvinist, who teaches that "you can't choose Christ unless you are caused to believe by the HS"............. then Paul just lied when He taught us that = THEY Resisted the Holy Spirit = Willfully........as does every Christ Rejector.

Notice that Paul didnt say..>>"well, dont worry about it, because you were just not chosen to believe".

Look now at Acts 28:28... as this is actually Hebrews 10... in the Book of the "ACTS of the Apostles."
Paul said to UNBELIEVING JEWS........>>"I will take the Gospel to the Gentiles, and they will Believe it".
So, if these JEWS were "pre-chosen" to not be the "5-Point, Hyper-Calvin" "chosen to believe" .. then you notice that Paul didnt say... "no worries, you can't believe because you are not of the chosen to believe"..

Reader, why did Paul forget all his Hyper-Calvinism, and "TULIP"< "5-points" in these Verses?

A.) Its because Paul is not a Calvinst.. Paul is not a "5-Point " TULIP... = Deceiver.

 

[Behold]

Now....

Lets look now at JESUS ............who is supposed to be the original Calvinist, and 5-point TULIP author.... who taught Paul to be the same, according to Calvinists and Hyper-Calvinist who are of the "5 points".. (TULIP). (Hyper-Calvinism).

Notice Reader,

You have Thomas the Apostle, who said.. "I WILL NOT BELIEVE, unless I see the proof.. i have to see the nail prints, the wound in the side.... feel them".

So, Thomas is an UNBELIEVER, and just told you so, and He is an APOSTLE, whom Jesus Chose.
Now.. Jesus is resurrected and appears to all the Apostles.
He goes directly to Thomas the Unbeliever.. and says....

"LOOK< Touch... BELIEVE>...

And Thomas then does, BELIEVE..... and says. while kneeling.. "MY LORD< and my GOD". (KJV).

And Jesus says, """"blessed are those who BELIEVE without SEEING..""""

Now do you see that Reader?
Jesus just stated that Thomas BELIEVED, because HE SAW... with His EYES.

And So, apparently, Jesus forgot to say..."Well, you didnt believe because you saw me,.... you only believed because you were pre-destined to believe.".

So... Jesus forgot to be a 5-Point Hyper Calvinist in this verse..

Why?

A.) Because JESUS is not a CALVINIST and Jesus is not a Hyper-Calvinist, "TULIP"> "5-point" : Deceiver.

 

[Behold]

“You stiff-necked people! Your hearts and ears are still uncircumcised. You are just like your ancestors: You always RESIST the HOLY SPIRIT!

"if you sin Willfully, there remainith no more JESUS (Sacrifice for your sin"

New Living Translation
“You stubborn people! You are heathen at heart and deaf to the truth. Must you forever RESIST the Holy Spirit? Thats what your ancestors did, and so do you!

"""""if you sin Willfully, there remainith no more JESUS (Sacrifice for your sin"'"""

English Standard Version
“You stiff-necked people, uncircumcised in heart and ears, You always RESIST the Holy Spirit. As your Father's did, so do you.

"if you sin Willfully, there remainith no more JESUS (Sacrifice for your sin"

Berean Standard Bible
You stiff-necked people with uncircumcised hearts and ears! You always RESIST the HOLY SPIRIT, as your FATHER's did..


"if you sin Willfully, there remainith no more JESUS (Sacrifice for your sin"

Berean Literal Bible
You stiff-necked and uncircumcised in heart and ears Always resist the Holy Spirit as your father's did, so do YOU.

"if you sin Willfully, there remainith no more JESUS (Sacrifice for your sin"

King James Bible
Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye.

New King James Version
“You stiff-necked and uncircumcised in heart and ears! You always resist the Holy Spirit; as your father's did, so do YOU.

"if you sin Willfully, there remainith no more JESUS (Sacrifice for your sin"

New American Standard Bible
“You men who are stiff-necked and uncircumcised in heart and ears are always resisting the Holy Spirit, , you are doing just as your father's did.

NASB 1995
“You men who are stiff-necked and uncircumcised in heart and ears are always resisting the Holy Spirit; you are doing just as your fathers did.

NASB 1977
“You men who are stiff-necked and uncircumcised in heart and ears are always resisting the Holy Spirit; you are doing just as your fathers did.

"if you sin Willfully, there remainith no more JESUS (Sacrifice for your sin"

Legacy Standard Bible
“You men—stiff-necked and uncircumcised in heart and ears—Are always resisting the Holy Spirit, as your Father's did, so do you..

"if you sin Willfully, there remainith no more JESUS (Sacrifice for your sin"

Amplified Bible
“You stiff-necked and stubborn people, uncircumcised in heart and ears, you are always actively resisting the Holy Spirit. You are doing just as your fathers did.

Christian Standard Bible
“You stiff-necked people with uncircumcised hearts and ears! You are always resisting the Holy Spirit, as your ancestors did, so do YOU.

A.) "if you sin Willfully, there remainith no more JESUS (Sacrifice for your sin"


"but behold, when you are chosen to believe, predestined, Hyper Calvinism (the 5 points) dictate that you must believe".. even tho Paul teaches that you can '""WILLFULLY refuse to Believe."""

Reader, do you see those verses? And now you see ONE of the Lies of Calvinism.. and this is just ONE.
But its a BIGGIE.. its a HUGE "doctrine of devils' = LIE

 

[Bruce-Leiter]

Reader,

Lets look deeper now., into this "Doctrine of Devils" that started with Calvin, and was evolved into Hyper-Calvinism (TULIP) "the 5 points".

A "TULIP"> a hyper calvinist, a "5-point">.. is one who believes in Calvinism = extremism .

So, both the Calvinist and the Hyper, have been led to believe that Paul the Apostle is a Calvinist. a 5 Point Hyper Calvinist.
And that is what they TEACH and BELIEVE.

So, lets look at that, and then i'll show you one more, in the next post..

First, lets understand why a person goes to hell and not to heaven..
Its simply because they "died in their sin, never forgiven", and were never born again. So, they died separated from God, by their Sin..
So, that situation, does not allow you to go to Heaven, because you were not forgiven all your sin.... born 'In Christ" as "one with God", before you died.
This is why Jesus told us.....>"YOU, MUST, be born again", and if you are not you are not a Son/Daughter of God when you died, and so your eternity is spent, where those who are not born again Sons/Daughters of God, end up... and that is not in Heaven......
There is only one other option. : HELL.

Now, Calvin and the Hyper-Calvinist, teach that Paul is a 5-point Hyper Calvinist, as they teach that a few verses that Paul wrote, that they SEE as meaning what Calvin teaches and others who evolved Calvins theology in Hyper-Calvinism.., proves that Paul is a Calvinist, and a Hyper Calvinist.
They believe that a few of Paul's verses teach the 5-points of Hyper- Calvinism as well as Calvinism.

So, listen now.... as you have to see this... in your understanding.

If Paul is a Calvinist, then Jesus is a Calvinist....... as Paul RECEIVED all His Theology "not from any man, but from the LORD", Himself.
So, If Paul is a Calvinist, then Jesus is a Calvinist., according to Calvinism and Hyper Calvinism that is "the 5 Points"..(TULIP).

Therefore, if Paul and The Lord Jesus The Christ are both Calvinists, then they will understand "pre-destined" to believe."
They will understand "pre-chosen" to believe"
They will understand "God causes you to believe or you can't".
And they will teach that always.

Now, lets look at some Verses..

1.) "their remainth no more sacrifice for your sin" because you have "willfully sinned", the sin of UNBELIEF... "just as your Father's did".

So, those verses are Hebrews 6 & 10.. .and this one..

“'"You stiff-necked people! Your hearts and ears are still uncircumcised. You are just like your ancestors: You ALWAYS RESIST the HOLY Spirit.!""""

So, Hyper Calvinism, teaches that this isn't possible, as you have no free will..
Yet if the Forum member can read, you Just read PAUL tell Christ rejectors, that "THEY...ALWAYS resist the Holy Spirit."
This means that Paul is one confused Calvinist, Hyper Calvinist, or that Calvinism and the "5-points" (TULIP) is a "doctrine of Devils"., as Paul just blamed them for their "resisting the Holy Spirit" that the '5-points" of Hyper Calvinism, says isn't possible.

Now when you read that "you always RESIST THE HOLY SPIRIT", then that is "you are resisting the Truth, that is the Gospel being revealed to you".., and that is also Hebrews 10".. ."If you willfully sin"...(will not believe in Jesus, willfully) there remainth no more JESUS FOR YOU... "there remaineth no more SACRIFICE for your SIN." because of your Willful decision to reject the Sacrifice who is JESUS ON THE CROSS.

So, then If Paul is the "5-point" Hyper Calvinist, who teaches that "you can't choose Christ unless you are caused to believe by the HS"............. then Paul just lied when He taught us that = THEY Resisted the Holy Spirit = Willfully........as does every Christ Rejector.

Notice that Paul didnt say..>>"well, dont worry about it, because you were just not chosen to believe".

Look now at Acts 28:28... as this is actually Hebrews 10... in the Book of the "ACTS of the Apostles."
Paul said to UNBELIEVING JEWS........>>"I will take the Gospel to the Gentiles, and they will Believe it".
So, if these JEWS were "pre-chosen" to not be the "5-Point, Hyper-Calvin" "chosen to believe" .. then you notice that Paul didnt say... "no worries, you can't believe because you are not of the chosen to believe"..

Reader, why did Paul forget all his Hyper-Calvinism, and "TULIP"< "5-points" in these Verses?

A.) Its because Paul is not a Calvinst.. Paul is not a "5-Point " TULIP... = Deceiver.

I have one suggestion: Quote exactly the five points of Calvinism directly from the Canons of Dort, and let us decide what we think about those teachings instead of telling your incorrect interpretation of them. By the way, the five points aren't just based on Paul's letters but on other passages as well. You misrepresent Calvinism and slander our biblical beliefs. Have fun answering to God about why you have performed your adamant, aggressive rejection of biblical and doctrinal teaching.

 

[Behold]

I have one suggestion: Quote exactly the five points of Calvinism directly from the Canons of Dort,

Here is the thing.

Calvinism, and its evil Twin, "Hyper-Calvinism"... which is "TULIP".......those are an overemphasis of the teachings of John Calvin.

So, BECAUSE, these teachings are Satanic, its because of reading them and studying them, that the person, becomes captured by them.

Hebrews 13:9 explains that these doctrines, man made, will get you... And Paul teaches that once they have your MIND, as demonic strongholds produced by such doctrines, then you are spellbound,.. you are "bewitched", you are under the control of a demonic teaching, within your mind., where your Truth becomes the "doctrine of Devils".

See,...... the power of the Devil, is a few, and one of them... because He is the "father of Lies' is to DECEIVE PEOPLE with LIES that sound like Bible Truth.
And He's deceived BILLIONS of people.

So, what i never do, is Post much of the TULIP doctrine, because its by reading it, is how Satan captures you with it.

When i point out to deceived people..is that that they are SELLING IT... .. they are doing this by trying to convince you its true, or by posting the actual doctrine for people to read, so that they can become "Bewitched" by it, also.

I dont do that.., as i dont sell John Calvin's Theology, or Hyper Calvinism.
I expose it.

 

[Bruce-Leiter]

Here is the thing.

Calvinism, and its evil Twin, "Hyper-Calvinism"... which is "TULIP".......those are an overemphasis of the teachings of John Calvin.

So, BECAUSE, these teachings are Satanic, its because of reading them and studying them, that the person, becomes captured by them.

Hebrews 13:9 explains that these doctrines, man made, will get you... And Paul teaches that once they have your MIND, as demonic strongholds produced by such doctrines, then you are spellbound,.. you are "bewitched", you are under the control of a demonic teaching, within your mind., where your Truth becomes the "doctrine of Devils".

See,...... the power of the Devil, is a few, and one of them... because He is the "father of Lies' is to DECEIVE PEOPLE with LIES that sound like Bible Truth.
And He's deceived BILLIONS of people.

So, what i never do, is Post much of the TULIP doctrine, because its by reading it, is how Satan captures you with it.

When i point out to deceived people..is that that they are SELLING IT... .. they are doing this by trying to convince you its true, or by posting the actual doctrine for people to read, so that they can become "Bewitched" by it, also.

I dont do that.., as i dont sell John Calvin's Theology, or Hyper Calvinism.
I expose it.

Brother, if you won't quote from it or post it, people will be suspicious that you are twisting and slanting its true teachings and listening to other people's twisting and slanting of it. Your false representations of it might become exposed. If you are so scared that we might see that it is truly biblical, please stop talking about it and move on to more uplifting topics instead of bashing us Calvinists. It's my suggestion.

James says, "Resist the devil and he will flee from you" (James 4:7). You seem to have a low estimation of the forum participants that we can't possibly yank ourselves away from "evil" influences. In the power of Jesus' victory, we can. Can you yank yourself away from your Calvinism-bashing? An honest question.

 

[Behold]

Brother, if you won't quote from it or post it, people will be suspicious that you are twisting and slanting its true teachings and listening to other people's twisting and slanting of it. \

The only people who will post what you posted is a Calvinist who wants to Sell Calvinism.

See, there is no need for me to "post Calvinism, or TULIP" .. word for word, when You, and Arthur81, and RitaJanice, and Ronald Nolette, and Brightframe, and a couple of others here on the forum, always keep it posted to try to Sell it, to try to deceive the believers on the forum who are not mind trapped by it.
There is no lack of Calvinism being Sold on this Forum, there is only the Lack of the Gosple that Paul teaches, that is seldom found here.
That's why im here. I am here to "PREACH THE CROSS" as "the power of God, unto Salvation, for/to, EVERYONE who Believes".

I dont need to post Satanic Calvinism Doctrine on "ChristianityBoard" as its dripping with it, everyday.
Its Saturated with this Cross Denying "doctrine" all the time.

 

[Behold]

James says, "Resist the devil and he will flee from you" (James 4:7).

If you had obeyed that verse you posted, .. then you would not be on a christian forum, trying to SELL Calvinism, by trying to prove it.

See, Calvinism is IMPORTANT to you, because you are a disciple of this deceived demonic MAN.
That is why you feel that "NEED" that "inner push" that "compulsion" to come and sell your John Calvinism. to CHRISTians. as that is what Calvinism causes you to have to do., as its a Mental stronghold...

So, i dont have the "resist the devil" issue.
No worries.

 

[Bruce-Leiter]

The only people who will post what you posted is a Calvinist who wants to Sell Calvinism.

See, there is no need for me to "post Calvinism, or TULIP" .. word for word, when You, and Arthur81, and RitaJanice, and Ronald Nolette, and Brightframe, and a couple of others here on the forum, always keep it posted to try to Sell it, to try to deceive the believers on the forum who are not mind trapped by it.
There is no lack of Calvinism being Sold on this Forum, there is only the Lack of the Gosple that Paul teaches, that is seldom found here.
That's why im here. I am here to "PREACH THE CROSS" as "the power of God, unto Salvation, for/to, EVERYONE who Believes".

I dont need to post Satanic Calvinism Doctrine on "ChristianityBoard" as its dripping with it, everyday.
Its Saturated with this Cross Denying "doctrine" all the time.

Please don't judge our motives that we don't express. I'm not trying to SELL anything. I'm trying to enlighten forum visitors on the truth and to correct misconceptions. It's up to forum members how they respond to it, as it is to you. As far as I'm concerned, you can believe what you want to believe, but I reserve the right to do the same thing. However, instead of telling us how we're wrong, tell us plainly what you believe, and consider that you can just leave it at that. Just a suggestion.

 

[Behold]

Please don't judge our motives that we don't express.

"Defending Calvinism" on a pubic Christian Forum, is the same as teaching it, which is to SELL IT. @Bruce-Leiter

So, that is what you are doing, and that is what you will continue to do, as that is what a Disciple of Calvin, is mentally designed to Do, by Calvinism.

You're proving it, for a while now.....and so is RitaJanice, and Ronald Nolette, and 4 or 5 others.....Pinseeker... is another.

Notice, im not trying to PROVE (SELL) = Calvinism....as im not deceived by TULIP "the 5 Points".

Read my THREADS, including those that denounce this false demonized man... and you'll see that i teach CHRIST's CROSS, most of the time, as Pauline Theology.

No one is Called by GOD to be a Calvinist.

CALVIN does that .. did that to you.

God is not a Calvinist.

 

[Bruce-Leiter]

"Defending Calvinism" on a pubic Christian Forum, is the same as teaching it, which is to SELL IT. @Bruce-Leiter

So, that is what you are doing, and that is what you will continue to do, as that is what a Disciple of Calvin, is mentally designed to Do, by Calvinism.

You're proving it, for a while now.....and so is RitaJanice, and Ronald Nolette, and 4 or 5 others.....Pinseeker... is another.

Notice, im not trying to PROVE (SELL) = Calvinism....as im not deceived by TULIP "the 5 Points".

Read my THREADS, including those that denounce this false demonized man... and you'll see that i teach CHRIST's CROSS, most of the time, as Pauline Theology.

No one is Called by GOD to be a Calvinist.

CALVIN does that .. did that to you.

God is not a Calvinist.

I am not a disciple of Calvin, but I find that his interpretations are the best and most consistent with the whole of the Bible. That's why I call myself a Calvinist. I am a disciple of Jesus and his adopted brother. To call Calvin "demonized" is to judge and condemn him without reading what he had to say. Is that fair? I don't think so.

Do you teach Jesus' permanent, bodily resurrection too, Behold?

 

[Behold]

I am not a disciple of Calvin,

You are not here for any other reason then to try to sell Calvinism.

That make you a Disciple.
You know more about Calvinism, then any other Doctrine, and that is because it owns you.
That is what TULIP DOES....it become your EYES when you read the bible.
It becomes YOUR MIND when you try to understand scriptures.

That is the "bewitching" that Paul describes that happens to a Calvinist and a Mormon, and a JW., and the rest of the Man Made Theology .

Do you teach Jesus' permanent, bodily resurrection too, Behold?

Jesus was not resurrected as only a Spirit.

Jesus walked out of the Tomb, and was seen by more the 500 People, ...not just the 12, and Mary,.

Thomas Said.>>>"i dont believe, until i SEE.. and touch, and feel"..

So, After Jesus was bodily resurrected, He appeared to the remaining Apostles, and found Thomas and said.>>"touch, feel, BELIEVE".

And Thomas saw, Jesus's in His resurrected body, and KNEELED and said.."MY LORD.. and my GOD".

 

[Bruce-Leiter]

You are not here for any other reason then to try to sell Calvinism.

That make you a Disciple.
You know more about Calvinism, then any other Doctrine, and that is because it owns you.
That is what TULIP DOES....it become your EYES when you read the bible.
It becomes YOUR MIND when you try to understand scriptures.

That is the "bewitching" that Paul describes that happens to a Calvinist and a Mormon, and a JW., and the rest of the Man Made Theology .



Jesus was not resurrected as only a Spirit.

Jesus walked out of the Tomb, and was seen by more the 500 People, ...not just the 12, and Mary,.

Thomas Said.>>>"i dont believe, until i SEE.. and touch, and feel"..

So, After Jesus was bodily resurrected, He appeared to the remaining Apostles, and found Thomas and said.>>"touch, feel, BELIEVE".

And Thomas saw, Jesus's in His resurrected body, and KNEELED and said.."MY LORD.. and my GOD".

Please don't lump us Calvinists in with the Mormons or the Jehovah's Witnesses, because we believe that God is Triune as the Gospel of John clearly shows, and Joseph Smith and Judge Rutherford did not. That makes Calvinism Christian, but not the Mormons or the Jehovah's Witnesses. We agree on Jesus' bodily resurrection, the key event on which our faith is founded. It's another reason Calvinism is Christian.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Here is the thing.

Calvinism, and its evil Twin, "Hyper-Calvinism"... which is "TULIP".......those are an overemphasis of the teachings of John Calvin.

So, BECAUSE, these teachings are Satanic, its because of reading them and studying them, that the person, becomes captured by them.

Hebrews 13:9 explains that these doctrines, man made, will get you... And Paul teaches that once they have your MIND, as demonic strongholds produced by such doctrines, then you are spellbound,.. you are "bewitched", you are under the control of a demonic teaching, within your mind., where your Truth becomes the "doctrine of Devils".

See,...... the power of the Devil, is a few, and one of them... because He is the "father of Lies' is to DECEIVE PEOPLE with LIES that sound like Bible Truth.
And He's deceived BILLIONS of people.

So, what i never do, is Post much of the TULIP doctrine, because its by reading it, is how Satan captures you with it.

When i point out to deceived people..is that that they are SELLING IT... .. they are doing this by trying to convince you its true, or by posting the actual doctrine for people to read, so that they can become "Bewitched" by it, also.

I dont do that.., as i dont sell John Calvin's Theology, or Hyper Calvinism.
I expose it.

YOu are a coward! You will not post the five points because you know if people see the five points and the biblical support used to list the five points- they will no longer listen to you!

YOu are like margarine- you look like butter, spread like butter, but have no qualities that are butter!

 

[Behold]

YOu are a coward!

You are just a Deceiver..., who teaches Cross Denying Calvinism, as your only ministry.
That's the proof of what you are, and what you are doing on this Forum

You will not post the five points because

Because i dont Sell Calvinism., is why i dont post your Idol's demonic theology.....
Its your ministry not mine, = to sell Calvin's Lies.

See, as i told a Hyper-Tulip, ... You, and RitaJanice, and Pinseeker, and Bruce Leiter, and Brightframe, and several others, are always using this Forum to sell Calvinism..
This Forum is a hot bed of Calvinism.......
My 2nd purpose on This forum, is to keep people away from all Heresies, such as Calvinism and Hyper Calvinism, by exposing the people who teach them......and to expose why the doctrine is false.

YOu are like margarine- you look like butter, spread like butter, but have no qualities that are butter!

"stick and stones" ... @Calvin's Disciple.
run along, and let the adults, have their conversation....

 

[Ronald Nolette]

You are just a Deceiver..., who teaches Cross Denying Calvinism, as your only ministry.
That's the proof of what you are, and what you are doing on this Forum



Because i dont Sell Calvinism., is why i dont post your Idol's demonic theology.....
Its your ministry not mine, = to sell Calvin's Lies.

See, as i told a Hyper-Tulip, ... You, and RitaJanice, and Pinseeker, and Bruce Leiter, and Brightframe, and several others, are always using this Forum to sell Calvinism..
This Forum is a hot bed of Calvinism.......
My 2nd purpose on This forum, is to keep people away from all Heresies, such as Calvinism and Hyper Calvinism, by exposing the people who teach them......and to expose why the doctrine is false.




"stick and stones" ... @Calvin's Disciple.
run along, and let the adults, have their conversation....

Once again all talk but no bible. YOu are as phony as a four dollar bill

 

[Jane_Doe22]

Please don't lump us Calvinists in with the Mormons or the Jehovah's Witnesses, because we believe that God is Triune as the Gospel of John clearly shows, and Joseph Smith and Judge Rutherford did not. That makes Calvinism Christian, but not the Mormons or the Jehovah's Witnesses. We agree on Jesus' bodily resurrection, the key event on which our faith is founded. It's another reason Calvinism is Christian.

Actual “Mormon” here: there is a gap between what 1) I believe and Trinitarian, And 2) Calvinim vs everyone else. Gap #2 is twenty times wider. I can be chill with Creedal statements. Impossible with Calvinism statements.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Reader,

Lets look deeper now., into this "Doctrine of Devils" that started with Calvin, and was evolved into Hyper-Calvinism (TULIP) "the 5 points".

A "TULIP"> a hyper calvinist, a "5-point">.. is one who believes in Calvinism = extremism .

So, both the Calvinist and the Hyper, have been led to believe that Paul the Apostle is a Calvinist. a 5 Point Hyper Calvinist.
And that is what they TEACH and BELIEVE.

So, lets look at that, and then i'll show you one more, in the next post..

First, lets understand why a person goes to hell and not to heaven..
Its simply because they "died in their sin, never forgiven", and were never born again. So, they died separated from God, by their Sin..
So, that situation, does not allow you to go to Heaven, because you were not forgiven all your sin.... born 'In Christ" as "one with God", before you died.
This is why Jesus told us.....>"YOU, MUST, be born again", and if you are not you are not a Son/Daughter of God when you died, and so your eternity is spent, where those who are not born again Sons/Daughters of God, end up... and that is not in Heaven......
There is only one other option. : HELL.

Now, Calvin and the Hyper-Calvinist, teach that Paul is a 5-point Hyper Calvinist, as they teach that a few verses that Paul wrote, that they SEE as meaning what Calvin teaches and others who evolved Calvins theology in Hyper-Calvinism.., proves that Paul is a Calvinist, and a Hyper Calvinist.
They believe that a few of Paul's verses teach the 5-points of Hyper- Calvinism as well as Calvinism.

So, listen now.... as you have to see this... in your understanding.

If Paul is a Calvinist, then Jesus is a Calvinist....... as Paul RECEIVED all His Theology "not from any man, but from the LORD", Himself.
So, If Paul is a Calvinist, then Jesus is a Calvinist., according to Calvinism and Hyper Calvinism that is "the 5 Points"..(TULIP).

Therefore, if Paul and The Lord Jesus The Christ are both Calvinists, then they will understand "pre-destined" to believe."
They will understand "pre-chosen" to believe"
They will understand "God causes you to believe or you can't".
And they will teach that always.

Now, lets look at some Verses..

1.) "their remainth no more sacrifice for your sin" because you have "willfully sinned", the sin of UNBELIEF... "just as your Father's did".

So, those verses are Hebrews 6 & 10.. .and this one..

“'"You stiff-necked people! Your hearts and ears are still uncircumcised. You are just like your ancestors: You ALWAYS RESIST the HOLY Spirit.!""""

So, Hyper Calvinism, teaches that this isn't possible, as you have no free will..
Yet if the Forum member can read, you Just read PAUL tell Christ rejectors, that "THEY...ALWAYS resist the Holy Spirit."
This means that Paul is one confused Calvinist, Hyper Calvinist, or that Calvinism and the "5-points" (TULIP) is a "doctrine of Devils"., as Paul just blamed them for their "resisting the Holy Spirit" that the '5-points" of Hyper Calvinism, says isn't possible.

Now when you read that "you always RESIST THE HOLY SPIRIT", then that is "you are resisting the Truth, that is the Gospel being revealed to you".., and that is also Hebrews 10".. ."If you willfully sin"...(will not believe in Jesus, willfully) there remainth no more JESUS FOR YOU... "there remaineth no more SACRIFICE for your SIN." because of your Willful decision to reject the Sacrifice who is JESUS ON THE CROSS.

So, then If Paul is the "5-point" Hyper Calvinist, who teaches that "you can't choose Christ unless you are caused to believe by the HS"............. then Paul just lied when He taught us that = THEY Resisted the Holy Spirit = Willfully........as does every Christ Rejector.

Notice that Paul didnt say..>>"well, dont worry about it, because you were just not chosen to believe".

Look now at Acts 28:28... as this is actually Hebrews 10... in the Book of the "ACTS of the Apostles."
Paul said to UNBELIEVING JEWS........>>"I will take the Gospel to the Gentiles, and they will Believe it".
So, if these JEWS were "pre-chosen" to not be the "5-Point, Hyper-Calvin" "chosen to believe" .. then you notice that Paul didnt say... "no worries, you can't believe because you are not of the chosen to believe"..

Reader, why did Paul forget all his Hyper-Calvinism, and "TULIP"< "5-points" in these Verses?

A.) Its because Paul is not a Calvinst.. Paul is not a "5-Point " TULIP... = Deceiver.

Sorry but you are wrong!

why do people always resist the Hol;y Spirit?

John 5:38-40

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38 And ye have not his word abiding in you: for whom he hath sent, him ye believe not.
39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.

Why?

Romans 8:8

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8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

Romans 8:7

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7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

1 Corinthians 2:14

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14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Romans 9:22-24

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22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:
23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,
24 Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?

John 10:26
But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.

John 10:16
And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.

John 6:44
No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.


You are very good at the what happens to man who dies without christ and does not come to Jesus. But you are an absolute failure at the why people will not come to Christ! and when you see the bible verses that prove why7- you refuse to acknowledge them.

YOu believe there is some innate quality ion some people that will naturally draw them to the gospel, while th ebible calls that a lie!

Your rants and venom directed at Calvin for listing th ebiblical truth that we call the five points will come back to haunt you if you refuse to repent.

I would love a discussion with you, but you have over a dozen threads refuse to show from Scripture why the five points are wrong.

Briefly: because you reject teh biblical basis for the five points called TULIP, you must hold to the following for their are not other alternatives.

T= you believe that in the natural man there is still some innate goodness and that they are not spiritually dead.

U= you believe that a person must do something before they can come to Jesus, like giving up sin, praying before repentance, doing X amount of good works. You believe that man has to do things before He can turn to Jesus if you reject this biblical point called unconditional election- you hold to conditional election.

L= you must hold to universalism if you reject the biblical point of limited atonement. Jesus is the propitiation (acceptable sacrifice) for the sins of the world, but the atonement (erasure of sin) does not become active for a person until their come to Jesus. So to reject limited atonement (only believers have their sins erased) requires universalism.

I= you hold that the elect and those chosen from the foundation of the world can successfully resist gods will. This is the big one that most people hold to besides you. it is the battle between election and free will.

P= by rejecting this biblical point of what we call the 5 points of Calvinism, one believes that one can lose their salvation. there is no middle ground one is either eternally secure when saved or not!

So by calling teh 5 biblical points of Calvinism, the above points are what you believe. or you hold to some of th epoints you call demonic.

 

[Behold]

Sorry but you are wrong!

why do people always resist the Hol;y Spirit?

If everyone resisted the Holy Spirit, then there would be no Christians.

And the fact that anyone CAN resist the HS, is because their God Given Free Will, is allowed to Choose.

So, while the Cross of Christ, is given to the world of humanity..John 3:16 = (everyone... all... whosoever)... as God's Free Gift of Salvation......not all will choose to believe, and become a Christian, based on God accepting THEIR Faith in Christ, = to then forgiven all their sin, and then give them the "new birth in Christ".

One of the ways that you know that Calvinism is a False Gospel, that proves its Satanic, is because its the Gospel , backwards.

See, Calvin has the born again... happening first.... and then the faith, at the end.

Whereas Paul's Gospel has the 1.) Message of the Cross preached, and 2.) the person hears it, and 3.) then the Holy Spirit reveals it,....
= 4.) so that they can Believe.

So, Calvin's Satanic Gospel is "backwards".. .it has the born again, happening before the Faith in Christ.. has been given to God.

And if you study Satanism, you'll find that its backwards truth.. its backwards language.... its Truth that is subverted... and that is Calvin's Gospel.

So, that is a SATANIC Gospel........its "cursed".. .its a subversive denial of Paul's Gospel. and that makes Calvin's Gospel...

Galatians 1:8

 

[Ronald Nolette]

So, while the Cross of Christ, is given to the world of humanity..John 3:16 = (everyone... all... whosoever)... as God's Free Gift of Salvation......not all will choose to believe, and become a Christian, based on God accepting THEIR Faith in Christ, = to then forgiven all their sin, and then give them the "new birth in Christ".

And once again if you practiced proper grammar and not throw it in the trash when you read Gods word you would know this is not a statement that either defends free will or election.

It is simply a declaratory statement of fact. It simply says whoever does A- then B will happen. But not a word on how A takes place. It uses the generic, instead of Jesus listing the 2+ billion or more souls who have accepted HIm as Savior over the centuries.

And until one is drawn to Jesus they cannot come. their human nature is incapable of turning to Jesus of its own volition. I have shown you the verses fromo God that prove that and instead of responding ot Gods Word you are more intent to slander, use ad-hominems and make emotional appeals that are untrue!