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Fundamentalist Christianity is fear-based?

Discussion in 'Inter-Faith Discussion' started by Animal2692, Apr 27, 2022.

  1. theefaith

    theefaith Well-Known Member

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    you’re well named!

    without God and His revealed truth and morals you are just an animal!
     
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    theefaith Well-Known Member

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    does that mean there is no such thing as the one true church?

    who has the keys? The prime minister holds the keys of jurisdictional authority under the king and over the administers!

    Christ is king!
    Peter and his successors are prime ministers!
    The apostles are the administrators of the kingdom!

    A kingdom by nature is authoritative!
     
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    theefaith Well-Known Member

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    does that mean there is no such thing as the one true church?

    who has the keys? The prime minister holds the keys of jurisdictional authority under the king and over the administers!

    Christ is king!
    Peter and his successors are prime ministers!
    The apostles are the administrators of the kingdom!

    A kingdom by nature is authoritative!

    Major covenants!

    God initiated each covenant and the mediator always remains on earth mediating the covenant except for Christ who made Peter His personal representative and vicar! (Matt 16:18)

    Adam
    (Marriage covenant)

    Noah
    (Family covenant)

    Abraham
    (Tribal covenant)

    Moses:
    (National covenant)

    Jesus Christ:
    (Universal covenant)

    New and eternal covenant founded by Jesus Christ! Matt 16:18

    Universal (Catholic)
    World universal

    Lk 2:10 And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people. ( catholic universal) All men!

    Lk 2:31 prepared before the face of all (catholic) people. All men!

    Jn 1:29 lamb of God who takes way the sins of the world. All men!

    Jn 3:16 for God so loved the world

    1 Jn 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world. All men!

    Lk 2: 10 And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people. All men!

    11 For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord. (All people universal) All men!

    1 Tim 2:5 one mediator

    Jn 10:16 One new covenant church

    Kingdom

    Dan 2:44 And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.

    the holy Catholic Church

    Lk 1:32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:

    33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.


    Matthew 5:14
    Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.

    Lk 22:29 And I appoint unto you a kingdom, as my Father hath appointed unto me;
    30 That ye may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom, and sit on thrones judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
    31 And the Lord said, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan hath desired to have you, that he may sift you as wheat: (plural Peter and his successors)
    32 But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren.

    Jesus Christ is king!

    We must submit and obey the king of kings!

    And His authorized ministers that He Himself appointed!

    Matt 16:18-19 & 28:28 eph 2:20 Jn 20:21-23

    Lk 10:16
    He who hears you hears me...

    John 13:20
    Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that receiveth whomsoever I send receiveth me; and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me.
     
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    theefaith Well-Known Member

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    why does it need to be in the Bible to be true?

    the Bible alone is not the rule of faith or source of truth!
    Christ and His church are!

    Truth must be revealed by God, and in its fullness in the sacred deposit of faith by Christ to his church! Eph 4:5 Jude 1:3 and must be taught by the church, or proposed for our belief by the apostles!
    Matt 28:19-20 Lk 1:4 Jn 20:21 acts 8:31 Rom 1:5 col 2:7 1 Tim 3:15
    matt 18:17

    Christ and His church are one! acts 9:4 Acts 5:32 Jn 15:1-5

    Truth must be revealed by God thru Christ to His church (the apostles Jude 1:3) then must be proposed by the church, (Matt 28:19 gal 3:23) without error by the Holy Spirit! (Jn 16:13)

    The evidence of true faith is humble subjection and obedience to Christ & His holy church!

    The rule of faith for Christians is Jesus Christ Jn 14:6 and His church! Matt 18:17 acts 2:42 1 Tim 3:15

    True Christians cannot listen to the errors of excommunicated heretics, but we listen faithfully to Christ, in the bosom of holy mother church, the only ark of salvation!
    1 pet 3:20-21 matt 18:17 matt 16:18-19 matt 28:19-20 Jn 16:13 Jn 20:21-23

    Truth must be revealed by God thru Christ to His church (the apostles Jude 1:3) then must be proposed by the church, (Matt 28:19 gal 3:23) without error by the Holy Spirit! (Jn 16:13)

    Christ and His church are one! (Acts 9:4 eph 5:31 Jn 15:1-5)

    Rejection of the one true church or its teaching is rejection of Christ and God!

    Christ and His church are one! Acts 9:4 eph 5:32 Jn 8:12 & Matt 5:14
     
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    theefaith Well-Known Member

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    self-centered
    Self-willed


    There is no peace, contentment, or happiness without our holy religion!

    sacrifice myself for the love (virtue) of God and neighbor!
     
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    prism Blood-Soaked

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    The one true Church is made up of regenerate believers from every tribe tongue and nation, whose sins have been washed in the Blood of the Lamb.

    True believers who hold to the teachings of the Apostles (IOW the Church), hold the keys.
     
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    Are you really that confused? There was no parliamentary government in New Testament times.
     
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    only Peter and His successors hold the keys
     
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    theefaith Well-Known Member

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    Wana bet?

    read Matt 23 and Christ demands their authority to be obeyed!
     
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    Sola scriptura! Once you go beyond the Bible, as the Catholic denomination does over and over and over, inventing all kinds of unScriptural baloney, you have clearly lost sight of the truth.

    The Catholic denomination is not "His church". Show me where it actually says that in Scripture. No interpretation! Where does it say "Catholic" in the Bible?
     
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    And it was taken from them and given to the church of the apostles Matt 21:43
     
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    Again, I will clearly state that there was no parliamentary government in New Testament times.

    Parliamentary government: a system of government having the real executive power vested in a cabinet composed of members of the legislature who are individually and collectively responsible to the legislature.

    Sure, let's bet on it. How much?
     
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    christ and his church are one acts 9:4 and teach the same doctrine

    no not Bible alone! There is no Bible! The original manuscripts are lost!

    And scripture give all authority to the church baptism f the apostles to teach all men! Matt 16:18 & 28:19 without error Jn 16:13
     
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    peter Matt 16:18 and the apostles Matt 18:18

    No king administers his own kingdom!

    even pharaoh had Joseph administering his kingdom!
    And even his brothers had to obey him!

    Christ gives the kingdom over to Peter and the apostles to govern

    Same authority as the successors of Moses and Christ commands obedience!

    Prophecy of the new covenant church fulfilled in the apostolic union with Christ!

    Matt 21:43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, (Israel) and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. (The new covenant church) Jn 15:1-5

    Dan 2: 44 And in the days of these kings (Roman Caesars) shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.

    Isaiah 2:2
    And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the Lord's house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.

    Micah 4:1
    But in the last days it shall come to pass, that the mountain of the house of the Lord shall be established in the top of the mountains, and it shall be exalted above the hills; and people shall flow unto it.

    Lk 1:32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:

    33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.

    Lk 22:29 And I appoint unto you a kingdom, as my Father hath appointed unto me;

    Matthew 5:14
    Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.


    Christ the king!

    The king of kings!

    Christ is King of Glory!

    Kingdom established by God!
    Isa 2:2
    Dan 2: 44
    Micah 4:1

    One, holy, catholic, (universal) and apostolic! And all nations and all people shall flow into it! All must submit and obey the king of glory!

    Matthew 5:14
    Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.

    1 Peter 2:9
    But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;

    Gal 4: 22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.

    23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.

    24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.

    25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.

    26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

    (Holy mother church)






    Christ is the king!

    Isa. 9:6-7 6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

    7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this.

    Lk 1:32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:

    33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.

    Lk 2:10-11 all people!

    Matthew 6:33
    But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

    Matt 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

    19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

    Matt 21:43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, (old covenant Israel) and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. (The new covenant church) Jn 15:1-5

    Gal 4:26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

    Holy Mother Church!
    The new covenant!



    Jesus Christ is king!

    We must submit and obey the king of kings!

    And In the absence of the king we must submit and obey the kings ministers!

    Isa 22:21-22
    Matt 16:18
    Matt 18:18
    Matt 28:18
    Jn 20:21-23

    Lk 10:16
    He who hears you hears me...

    John 13:20
    Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that receiveth whomsoever I send receiveth me; and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me.

    Biblical Example Joseph under pharaoh administers the kingdom and his brothers obeyed and submitted to him.

    Christ is king and a king must rule the hearts and minds of his subjects!

    All are subject to christ! Matt 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power (authority) is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

    1 cor 4:1 Let a man so account of us, as of the ministers of Christ, and stewards of the mysteries of God.

    The proof of true faith is humble subjection and obedience to Christ and His church!

    Christ and His church are one! Acts 9:4 eph 5:32

    Christ the king and His kingdom are one! Acts 9:4

    Isa. 9:6-7 6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

    7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this.

    Jer 23:5 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.

    6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, The Lord Our Righteousness.
     
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    Clearly you have no idea what a parliamentary government is.

    Here is a very good definition: Parliamentary government is a democratic form of government in which the political party that wins the most seats in the legislature or parliament during the federal election forms the government. This majority party chooses a leader to be the Prime Minister or Chancellor, and other high-ranking members of the party make up the cabinet. The minority party forms the opposition, and its job is to challenge the majority party. If no party is able to win a majority in the election, a coalition government will be formed with a few political parties cooperating together.

    It's called 'parliamentary government' because all of the power is vested in the parliament. In a presidential system like the United States, the executive branch is separate, and the president is popularly elected by the citizens of the nation. In a parliamentary system, the head of the government is chosen from the parliament, and is often one of the most senior members or ministers in parliament, which is where we get the term 'Prime Minister.' Often in a parliamentary system, the country will have a Head of State, who is a ceremonial figure like the Queen, but does not engage in legislating or politics.

    Why are you so deluded?
     
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    prism Blood-Soaked

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    Apparently it was those with Peter as well…


    John 20:22-23 KJV
    [22] And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost: [23] Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained.
     
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    no democracy it’s a kingdom!

    All glory to the king!

    but obedience to the ministers is obedience to the king!
     
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    yep they must be in union with Peter!

    All subject to Christ the king!
     
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    psst. (just between you and me)...Peter was married...

    Luke 4:38 (NASB) Then He got up and left the synagogue, and entered Simon's home. Now Simon's mother-in-law was suffering from a high fever, and they asked Him to help her.
     
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    so what? Why does it matter?
     
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