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I think it is an insult to God to even imply there is such thing.

Instead of complaining about the use of the male gender in the Bible study to find out why that is the reality in the Hebrew and Greek.
Agreed.

No gender is an invention of the godless. Gender is the revelation of God portraying His headship or husband/wife relationship with mankind. In other words, if God is male and the church is female, a women as head of the church, portrays a man over other men.

Likewise, a marriage between a man and a man, would portray God with God (eliminating mankind), and a marriage between a women and a women would portray mankind with mankind (without God).
 

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It depends what is meant by "gender neutral".
Instead of complaining about the use of the male gender in the Bible study to find out why that is the reality in the Hebrew and Greek.

In most cases (e.g. the most recent NIV) it is specifically translated to reflect the reality of the Hebrew and Greek - e.g. not translating the gender-neutral word 'anthropos' as 'man'.
 

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It depends what is meant by "gender neutral".


In most cases (e.g. the most recent NIV) it is specifically translated to reflect the reality of the Hebrew and Greek - e.g. not translating the gender-neutral word 'anthropos' as 'man'.
The problem with that...is it does not allow for "rightly dividing the word of God", because it is all divided in translation without considering that those things spoken of men, pertain to God rather than to men.
 

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I think it is an insult to God to even imply there is such thing.

Instead of complaining about the use of the male gender in the Bible study to find out why that is the reality in the Hebrew and Greek.
Not saying that any is right or wrong, but please post the scripture showing that the male gender is any diffrent from the female gender, not anatomically speaking ok.
 

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I think it is an insult to God to even imply there is such thing.
That's very interesting. You have been promoting the New International Version ever since you joined, and the NIV is the PRIMARY gender-neutral Bible. Which means that if you are honest, you will throw your NIV away and get back to the Authorized Version.
 
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It depends what is meant by "gender neutral".


In most cases (e.g. the most recent NIV) it is specifically translated to reflect the reality of the Hebrew and Greek - e.g. not translating the gender-neutral word 'anthropos' as 'man'.
Not saying that any is right or wrong, but please post the scripture showing that the male gender is any diffrent from the female gender, not anatomically speaking ok.

What?
 

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That's very interesting. You have been promoting the New International Version ever since you joined, and the NIV is the PRIMARY gender-neutral Bible. Which means that if you are honest, you will throw your NIV away and get back to the Authorized Version.

Not the 1970s version.

And here you go again defending the KJV.


Go back to the KJV? Nope. I would switch to NASB before I would do that.
 

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GINOLJC, since you asked "WHAT".

let's make it simple to understand, "Is God a respector of Person, be ye male or female?".

your answer please.
Acts 10:34 New International Version (NIV)
34 Then Peter began to speak: “I now realize how true it is that God does not show favoritism

That does not mean he is gender-neutral
 

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Acts 10:34 New International Version (NIV)
34 Then Peter began to speak: “I now realize how true it is that God does not show favoritism

That does not mean he is gender-neutral
you didn't answer the question either,

Galatians 3:28 "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

is this Gender neutral?
 

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you didn't answer the question either,

Galatians 3:28 "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

is this Gender neutral?

Gender-neutral is a physical issue. What you posted it is a spiritual issue.

Gender-neutral does not mean everyone is equal because God defined the roles of men and women as different.

Gender neutral strips out the separations and differences God assigned and tries to say men and women are all treated like men.

It also says God can be male or female linguistically speaking.

Eve no longer was taken from Adam as his helpmate. Wives are no longer required to obey their husbands. Preachers can be male or female in contradiction to what the Bible actually says.

Gender neutral undermines God.
 

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GINOLJC, to all
First thanks for the response,
second,
Gender-neutral is a physical issue. What you posted it is a spiritual issue.
The church of the Lord Jesus is spiritual, so that want fly.
Gender-neutral does not mean everyone is equal because God defined the roles of men and women as different.
if so God is a respector of PERSON, and that want fly.
Gender neutral strips out the separations and differences God assigned and tries to say men and women are all treated like men.
ERROR, Galatians 3:28 "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

for ye are all one in Christ Jesus, for ye are all one in Christ Jesus, ONE, ONE in christ Jesus. so that want fly either.
It also says God can be male or female linguistically speaking.
ERROR, God is a "Spirit", see John 4:24a, man is (male, and Female).
Genesis 1:27 "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
so that want fly either.
Eve no longer was taken from Adam as his helpmate. Wives are no longer required to obey their husbands. Preachers can be male or female in contradiction to what the Bible actually says.
Another ERROR,
(A). 1 Corinthians 11:11 "Nevertheless neither is the man without the woman, neither the woman without the man, in the Lord.

1 Corinthians 11:12 "For as the woman is of the man, even so is the man also by the woman; but all things of God.

this is basic bible, the woman is "of" the man, and the man is also "by" the woman. it's really sad people don't understand the basic of bible truths.

(B). 1 Peter 3:1 "Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives;

this is by permission "ONLY" of the wome to be a wife, in which the Husband LOVE their wife.
Ephesians 5:25 "Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it". in LOVE, no husband will be stupid in the marriage.... :cool:

(C). the bible don't lie. the bible say the Pastor (Jesus the Spirit himself) is the gift IN, IN, IN, the person which the Lord JESUS chooses, for he is no respecter of person. this gift is given by God the Lord Jesus himself, see 1 Corinthians 12:8.
so that want fly either.

Gender neutral undermines God.
ERROR, it elininates the things of the flesh, and pronote the things of the Spirit.
 

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GINOLJC, to all
First thanks for the response,
second,

The church of the Lord Jesus is spiritual, so that want fly.

if so God is a respector of PERSON, and that want fly.

ERROR, Galatians 3:28 "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

for ye are all one in Christ Jesus, for ye are all one in Christ Jesus, ONE, ONE in christ Jesus. so that want fly either.

ERROR, God is a "Spirit", see John 4:24a, man is (male, and Female).
Genesis 1:27 "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
so that want fly either.

Another ERROR,
(A). 1 Corinthians 11:11 "Nevertheless neither is the man without the woman, neither the woman without the man, in the Lord.

1 Corinthians 11:12 "For as the woman is of the man, even so is the man also by the woman; but all things of God.

this is basic bible, the woman is "of" the man, and the man is also "by" the woman. it's really sad people don't understand the basic of bible truths.

(B). 1 Peter 3:1 "Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives;

this is by permission "ONLY" of the wome to be a wife, in which the Husband LOVE their wife.
Ephesians 5:25 "Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it". in LOVE, no husband will be stupid in the marriage.... :cool:

(C). the bible don't lie. the bible say the Pastor (Jesus the Spirit himself) is the gift IN, IN, IN, the person which the Lord JESUS chooses, for he is no respecter of person. this gift is given by God the Lord Jesus himself, see 1 Corinthians 12:8.
so that want fly either.


ERROR, it elininates the things of the flesh, and pronote the things of the Spirit.

On this earth we are most assuredly male and female, so you cannot dismiss the realities God says about physical.

And of course you're putting a spin on it the Bible does not. Good old King James strikes again.


Romans 2:11 New International Version (NIV)
11 For God does not show favoritism.
 

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On this earth we are most assuredly male and female, so you cannot dismiss the realities God says about physical.

And of course you're putting a spin on it the Bible does not. Good old King James strikes again.


Romans 2:11 New International Version (NIV)
11 For God does not show favoritism.
only one response to your reply,
Romans 8:5 "For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.

Romans 8:6 "For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

Romans 8:7 "Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

Romans 8:8 "So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

good day.
 

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only one response to your reply,
Romans 8:5 "For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.

Romans 8:6 "For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

Romans 8:7 "Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

Romans 8:8 "So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

good day.

You're really spinning today.

Just one example to shoot down your thinking.

In marriage there is sex. That is very carnal but the Bible says the marriage bed is holy.

You do not know how to separate spiritual and physical realities per the Bible.
 

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You're really spinning today.

Just one example to shoot down your thinking.

In marriage there is sex. That is very carnal but the Bible says the marriage bed is holy.

You do not know how to separate spiritual and physical realities per the Bible.
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ERROR, sex is at HOME and not in the Church.

and yes, keep those things of the flesh at home, that the problem with igorant men today, they want to rule at home as well as in the church,. but not in the Lord Jesus Church... :)

so what you said want fly also........
 

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ERROR, sex is at HOME and not in the Church.

and yes, keep those things of the flesh at home, that the problem with igorant men today, they want to rule at home as well as in the church,. but not in the Lord Jesus Church... :)

so what you said want fly also........

Now you're putting qualifiers and what you said which you did not do before.