God chose us because He knew we would choose Him!!

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Yes!!! God is outside time and has known before creation who would choose to become believers and those He has predestined.
 

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Yes!!! God is outside time and has known before creation who would choose to become believers and those He has predestined.


nice try but it doesn't work that way. God has already chosen what He wants when He sees it, there you are. He sees your heart like you would see someone's face. and He knows what's in it.

its simple Jesus looked for those who had faith in Him and He honored it everywhere He found it. Jesus told the apostles the fields were ripe for the harvest hence knowing what was out there. God's Word will be fulfilled and everyone of His will be called and found and brought into the fold. yes He chose us, no we didn't chose Him, it is our nature to chose ourselves at every juncture in life, unless God shows us otherwise. and that requires His revelation of which is at His choosing to do.

and when the Lord tells us what to chose, guess what, its His choice for us.
 

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The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, ""not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance."" 2 Peter3:9
It is God's will that none perish but we are all free to chose! WQill we choose to believe and accep Jesus as our Lord and Savior OR will we choose to reject God and His love and forgivness!!!===All our choice and we cannot turn and try to blame God if we choose poorly!!!
 

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Psalm 103
Bless the Lord, O My Soul
1 Bless a the LORD, O my soul;
And all that is within me, bless His holy name! 2 Bless the LORD, O my soul,
And forget not all His benefits: 3 b Who forgives all your iniquities,
Who c heals all your diseases, 4 Who redeems your life from destruction,
d Who crowns you with lovingkindness and tender mercies, 5 Who satisfies your mouth with good things,
So that e your youth is renewed like the eagle's.

6 The LORD executes righteousness
And justice for all who are oppressed. 7 f He made known His ways to Moses,
His acts to the children of Israel. 8 g The LORD is merciful and gracious,
Slow to anger, and abounding in mercy. 9 h He will not always strive with us,
Nor will He keep His anger forever. 10 i He has not dealt with us according to our sins,
Nor punished us according to our iniquities. 11 For as the heavens are high above the earth,
So great is His mercy toward those who fear Him; 12 As far as the east is from the west,
So far has He j removed our transgressions from us. 13 k As a father pities his children,
So the LORD pities those who fear Him. 14 For He 1 knows our frame;
He remembers that we are dust.
 

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Job 34:10
"Therefore, listen to me, you men of understanding. Far be it from God to do wickedness, And from the Almighty to do wrong.
The Lord is the answer to all our problems. He is not the problem.
 

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Yes!!! God is outside time and has known before creation who would choose to become believers and those He has predestined.

ummm no.

God cannot be eternal and outside time as well.
What God formed in the beginning of this creation was measured time. Men have imagined many things about God and the fact that some or many hold to a man made belief still does not make it truth.

Here was a descent reference work I found awhile back;

When Reading in the Greek, We See that God
- is timeless
- in an eternal now
- not was, nor will be, but only is
- has no past
- has no future.

Of course NOT ONE of these phrases is in the Bible. They're from Plato. And the Platonists. For the reformation broke with Rome, but not with Greece. So these philosophical terms are uncritically repeated by the Christian authors of typical systematic theology textbooks, and therefore, taught to young ministers in seminary.

In the section heading just above, the word Greek does not refer, as many would assume, to the text of the New Testament that was originally written in Greek. Rather, it was used to refer to pagan Greek philosophy, which insisted that God exists outside of time. In contrast, the Hebrew and Greek terms in the Bible about God and time are TOTALLY different and refer not to timelessness but to unending duration. The phrases in the Scriptures all speak of God existing through unending time and an everlasting duration. The above timelessness terms are foreign to the reader of God's Word, whereas the Bible's many terms, as listed below, are all so very familiar from our reading of Scripture.

When Reading the Bible, We See that God:
is - and was - and is to come - Whose goings forth are from of old, from everlasting - Forever and ever - The Ancient of Days - From before the ages of the ages - From ancient times - the everlasting God - He continues forever - From of old - Remains forever - Immortal - The Lord shall endure forever - Who lives forever - God’s years - manifest in His own time - Everlasting Father - Alive forevermore - Always lives - Forever - Continually - God’s years never end - From everlasting to everlasting - From that time forward, even forever - And of His kingdom there will be no end.
Is God Outside of Time? Not according to the Bible. | KGOV.com

Predestination is also foreign to the biblical account.
To be created in the image of God we as intelligent beings experience free will and to assert that everything is predestined seeks to remove this part of God's image from us and ultimately would imply that God has no free will if, in fact his image doesn't reflect having it.
 

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Time was created for man not God!!! God is outside time! God says He is the Alpha and Omega =the Beginning and the End!!
 
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ummm no.

God cannot be eternal and outside time as well.
What God formed in the beginning of this creation was measured time. Men have imagined many things about God and the fact that some or many hold to a man made belief still does not make it truth.

Here was a descent reference work I found awhile back;

When Reading in the Greek, We See that God
- is timeless
- in an eternal now
- not was, nor will be, but only is
- has no past
- has no future.

Of course NOT ONE of these phrases is in the Bible. They're from Plato. And the Platonists. For the reformation broke with Rome, but not with Greece. So these philosophical terms are uncritically repeated by the Christian authors of typical systematic theology textbooks, and therefore, taught to young ministers in seminary.

In the section heading just above, the word Greek does not refer, as many would assume, to the text of the New Testament that was originally written in Greek. Rather, it was used to refer to pagan Greek philosophy, which insisted that God exists outside of time. In contrast, the Hebrew and Greek terms in the Bible about God and time are TOTALLY different and refer not to timelessness but to unending duration. The phrases in the Scriptures all speak of God existing through unending time and an everlasting duration. The above timelessness terms are foreign to the reader of God's Word, whereas the Bible's many terms, as listed below, are all so very familiar from our reading of Scripture.

When Reading the Bible, We See that God:
is - and was - and is to come - Whose goings forth are from of old, from everlasting - Forever and ever - The Ancient of Days - From before the ages of the ages - From ancient times - the everlasting God - He continues forever - From of old - Remains forever - Immortal - The Lord shall endure forever - Who lives forever - God’s years - manifest in His own time - Everlasting Father - Alive forevermore - Always lives - Forever - Continually - God’s years never end - From everlasting to everlasting - From that time forward, even forever - And of His kingdom there will be no end.
Is God Outside of Time? Not according to the Bible. | KGOV.com

Predestination is also foreign to the biblical account.
To be created in the image of God we as intelligent beings experience free will and to assert that everything is predestined seeks to remove this part of God's image from us and ultimately would imply that God has no free will if, in fact his image doesn't reflect having it.
The timelessness of God is self-evident.

In time we must consider that He is "the same yesterday, today, and forever", and yet "changes not." But, it is "changes not" that tells us the greater truth - for all of creation changes in time.

Even so, His kingdom "is not of this world" (of time). Nor is He under the rule of it, but is "higher."
 
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Time was created for man not God!!! God is outside time! God says He is the Alpha and Omega =the Beginning and the End!!

The measuring of time was created for man and God is the beginning and the end of his creation not the beginning and end of time.
God has existed through ALL time.
I invite you to find any biblical reference to back your concept / translation that God does not exist in time.

Psalm 90:2 Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God.

everlasting
1 : lasting or enduring through all time

eternal
4 : valid or existing at all times
 
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Yes!!! God is outside our time! God sees the beginning of time to the end in the now! God can see Adam in the garden now and the Rapture now!!! Time to God must be like a movie we have seen before we know the beginning and the end now.