Good times ahead for Christian Americans after the next election?

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Josho

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Looks like there is some good news for Christian Americans, if Donald Trump were to get elected as president.
And here is Lance Wallnau's report on the meeting with Donald Trump.

Our Meeting With Trump!
MIDNIGHT WATCH
By now you've probably heard that Donald Trump met with a group of Evangelical leaders. We met for 2.5 hours on the 26th floor of Trump Towers. We had an open conversation about everything from his style of combating opponents to the hostility of government toward Christianity to world affairs and Israel. Regarding his tone, Trump humbly received the message by nodding his head, listening attentively and not being combative at all. He only pointed out that "I am a counter puncher. I never hit first, but I hear what you're saying."
What was surprising is that other other Pastors spoke up and said he shouldn't be quick to change anything about his style. Saying, Americans are desperate for a leader who actually leads and if he changed who he was it would look inauthentic.
It ended with pastors gathering around Trump and laying their hands on him in prayer. Which struck me as interesting in itself as he didn't seem uncomfortable in the least. During that time Pastors asked the Lord to give the frontrunner wisdom, stability and knowledge necessary to pursue this endeavor. They also prayed for America and for God's will to be done.
My friend, Don Nori of Destiny Image said, "It started out inquisitive and a little cautious, but by the end it was more cordial, everyone wanted a picture with him," he said. "People had a lot to say to him, a lot of advice, (but) it was not a pep rally for Donald Trump."
Here are some highlights you would find interesting.
Pastor Darrell Scott and various other African American leaders
mentioned that there seems to be some detachment between him and the black community. While citing some polls to the contrary,
(25% positive rating) Trump agreed with the overall assessment and would try to do a better job and was open to suggestions.
There is no doubt that African American leaders face a certain amount of backlash the moment they step over into anything looking like a defection from the Democratic Party. These men struck me as some courageous leaders cut from a different cloth.
Scott believes the GOP presidential frontrunner made headway during the meeting.
“I think Donald Trump changed the opinions of the African-American pastors that were in the room. They saw a side of him outside of the media depiction, and that they would give strong consideration in regards to supporting his candidacy."
As for faith issues, he talked about how religious liberty and Christianity is under attack in America and that there is a lot of religious intolerance for Christianity in today’s society. Trump thinks it crazy that he can't say "Merry Christmas" in New York because it is so politically incorrect.
He then did a remarkable thing and challenged the room. "I think you've gotten weak in speaking up and making your own voice heard. You, me included, as Christians have been spoiled by a long period when Christianity was acceptable."
It was a delightful jab in true Trump fashion. Marco Rubio is weak on immigration and Christians are weak on, well, being Christians.
Pastor Steve Munsey shared a personal story about Trump with the room that moved me. His town in Indiana was host location to one of Trumps Miss USA patents. Munsey pointed out that this is a relatively poor community and it meant a lot that the Pageant was held there. The limo trump drove in broke down by the side of the road. A motorist stopped and took on the task of changing the tire. Trump insisted on stepping outside the car and shaking the mans hand. A month later, the man discovered that Trump paid off his mortgage. "This is typical of the man, and he never does this for publicity" Munsey shared.
I've got two more important notes to share from this meeting and my own personal take...but right now the post is long enough.
Want to hear more?
 
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I would be very interested in how many of those pastors sat or stood beside Kenneth Copeland et al and declared their affection and approval for the concept of a future union with the papacy. If Trump agrees with that idea, (and it would be likely as having been educated in a Jesuit institution) and becomes president, and makes good on that through legislative enactments, eg Sunday laws, he would be leading the entire nation of the US into apostasy which would lead directly to the downfall of the nation.
So Josh, as I understand that meeting, Copeland was there and led in prayer...how many others there who stood and applauded a few months back when Francis spoke to that group of charismatics and pentecostals calling them back to Mum?
 

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I find it absolutely baffling to see Christians get so excited over supporting a person who is basically the poster child for the love of money. <_<
 
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River Jordan said:
I find it absolutely baffling to see Christians get so excited over supporting a person who is basically the poster child for the love of money. <_<
You referring to Trump or the Pope?
 

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Josho said:
Looks like there is some good news for Christian Americans, if Donald Trump were to get elected as president.
And here is Lance Wallnau's report on the meeting with Donald Trump.

Our Meeting With Trump!
MIDNIGHT WATCH
By now you've probably heard that Donald Trump met with a group of Evangelical leaders. We met for 2.5 hours on the 26th floor of Trump Towers. We had an open conversation about everything from his style of combating opponents to the hostility of government toward Christianity to world affairs and Israel.
I wouldn't count your chickens before they are hatched.

Trump is used to blowing smoke up you know where...he's done it all his life. The fact that one of the issues brought up by these pastors was how the government has hostility towards Christians, when it does NOT do any such thing, in my mind, shows just why these so-called leaders reported this meeting. The guy is a 4 time capitalistic megalomaniac loser, so what does that say for people who support him?
 

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So Barrack Obama or Donald Trump who would you guys prefer? I can't say i follow politics that closely. What has Barrack Obama done that's good for the USA? Would Donald Trump be a better man for the job? Have you heard any warnings from some of the prophets who met with Trump?
 

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Yup. At the end of the CNN GOP debate, I liked the part when she talks about lady liberty and lady justice.
 

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davidnelson said:
Yup. At the end of the CNN GOP debate, I liked the part when she talks about lady liberty and lady justice.
Unfortunately, she doesn't have much chance against the big money boys.

But I do think she would be the best choice...



Lord knows, the guys have made enough mess. Perhaps it is time to give a lady a shot at it...
 

StanJ

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Josho said:
So Barrack Obama or Donald Trump who would you guys prefer? I can't say i follow politics that closely. What has Barrack Obama done that's good for the USA? Would Donald Trump be a better man for the job? Have you heard any warnings from some of the prophets who met with Trump?
Obama is a lame duck, but IMO he has done well for the majority of Americans, except those who LOGVE money, and we all know what the Bible says about the love of money being the root of all evil.
Trump can't run his own businesses properly with going into bankruptcy, and it no where near the same as running a country, so NO, he won't do a good job IF he actually get's a chance, and IMO, he won't.
 

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Whomever is elected as POTUS will have to be ordained by the Globalist masters, as dancing to their tune...so forget about someone who is idealistic and sincere in cleaning up the cesspool which permeates society in the USA and indeed the entire planet.
 

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heretoeternity said:
Whomever is elected as POTUS will have to be ordained by the Globalist masters, as dancing to their tune...so forget about someone who is idealistic and sincere in cleaning up the cesspool which permeates society in the USA and indeed the entire planet.
Do you also speak to dead people?
 

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Carly Fiorina!

  • Planned Parenthood harvested organs from living babies. (Sep 2015)
  • Ban abortions 20 weeks after fertilization. (May 2015)
  • Liberals believe in protecting flies, but not human life. (Jan 2015)
  • Endorsed as pro-life, fiscal conservative "Mama Grizzly". (Nov 2010)
  • Exceptions for rape, incest, and maternal endangerment. (Oct 2010)
  • Overturn the Supreme Court ruling that legalized abortion. (Sep 2010)
  • Embryonic stem cell research ok if not created for purpose. (Sep 2010)
  • Sanctity of life, except in the case of rape and incest. (Jun 2010)
  • Opposes both federal abortion funding & judicial activism. (Aug 2010)
  • Opposes prohibiting human embryonic stem cell research. (Aug 2010)
  • Supports giving legal protection to unborn children. (Sep 2010)
  • Stimulus package is a failure; more tax cuts instead. (Oct 2010)
  • Key to recovery is less government, taxation, & regulation. (Sep 2010)
  • Opposes the stimulus bill. (Sep 2010)
  • U.S. will be better off when women have equal opportunity. (Sep 2015)
  • Supreme Court overstepped by legalizing same-sex marriage. (May 2015)
  • I don't just Tweet about equal pay; I lead on pay standards. (Feb 2015)
  • Women professionals are not treated the same as men. (May 2014)
  • Marriage is between a man and a woman; but civil unions ok. (Sep 2010)
  • No same-sex marriage; yes civil unions; repeal DADT. (Sep 2010)
  • Proud conservative vote for Proposition 8. (Nov 2009)
  • 1976: Worked with monogamous gay couples in college. (Sep 2007)
  • Hired by AT&T after court ordered them to promote more women. (Sep 2007)
  • Supports Amendment to prevent same sex marriage. (Aug 2010)

  • I got fired because I challenged the status quo. (Sep 2015)
  • Crony capitalism is alive and well: focus on small business. (Mar 2015)
  • As CEO, laid off 30,000 workers but doubled size of company. (Mar 2015)
  • Focus on supporting small family-owned businesses. (Dec 2009)
  • Favorite business author: philosopher Friedrich Hegel. (Sep 2007)
  • Change takes a critical mass, not 100% support. (Sep 2007)
  • Employees, customers, shareholders, public: all one audience. (Sep 2007)
  • Named "Most Powerful Businesswoman", but lists are bad idea. (Sep 2007)
  • Strike balance between preservation and reinvention. (Sep 2007)
  • Leaders are made, not born: so develop them. (Sep 2007)
  • If things are working, people don't need a leader's help. (Sep 2007)

There is much more here:
http://www.ontheissues.org/Carly_Fiorina.htm
 

heretoeternity

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The Barrd said:
Carly Fiorina!

  • Planned Parenthood harvested organs from living babies. (Sep 2015)
  • Ban abortions 20 weeks after fertilization. (May 2015)
  • Liberals believe in protecting flies, but not human life. (Jan 2015)
  • Endorsed as pro-life, fiscal conservative "Mama Grizzly". (Nov 2010)
  • Exceptions for rape, incest, and maternal endangerment. (Oct 2010)
  • Overturn the Supreme Court ruling that legalized abortion. (Sep 2010)
  • Embryonic stem cell research ok if not created for purpose. (Sep 2010)
  • Sanctity of life, except in the case of rape and incest. (Jun 2010)
  • Opposes both federal abortion funding & judicial activism. (Aug 2010)
  • Opposes prohibiting human embryonic stem cell research. (Aug 2010)
  • Supports giving legal protection to unborn children. (Sep 2010)
  • Stimulus package is a failure; more tax cuts instead. (Oct 2010)
  • Key to recovery is less government, taxation, & regulation. (Sep 2010)
  • Opposes the stimulus bill. (Sep 2010)
  • U.S. will be better off when women have equal opportunity. (Sep 2015)
  • Supreme Court overstepped by legalizing same-sex marriage. (May 2015)
  • I don't just Tweet about equal pay; I lead on pay standards. (Feb 2015)
  • Women professionals are not treated the same as men. (May 2014)
  • Marriage is between a man and a woman; but civil unions ok. (Sep 2010)
  • No same-sex marriage; yes civil unions; repeal DADT. (Sep 2010)
  • Proud conservative vote for Proposition 8. (Nov 2009)
  • 1976: Worked with monogamous gay couples in college. (Sep 2007)
  • Hired by AT&T after court ordered them to promote more women. (Sep 2007)
  • Supports Amendment to prevent same sex marriage. (Aug 2010)

  • I got fired because I challenged the status quo. (Sep 2015)
  • Crony capitalism is alive and well: focus on small business. (Mar 2015)
  • As CEO, laid off 30,000 workers but doubled size of company. (Mar 2015)
  • Focus on supporting small family-owned businesses. (Dec 2009)
  • Favorite business author: philosopher Friedrich Hegel. (Sep 2007)
  • Change takes a critical mass, not 100% support. (Sep 2007)
  • Employees, customers, shareholders, public: all one audience. (Sep 2007)
  • Named "Most Powerful Businesswoman", but lists are bad idea. (Sep 2007)
  • Strike balance between preservation and reinvention. (Sep 2007)
  • Leaders are made, not born: so develop them. (Sep 2007)
  • If things are working, people don't need a leader's help. (Sep 2007)

There is much more here:
http://www.ontheissues.org/Carly_Fiorina.htm










Looks like a good candidate...how about Cynthia McKinney???? Is she in the running? I hope so, she did some tough questioning in the past and does not back down it seems...What do you think about her as a candidate??