Guidelines for Revelation

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Axehead

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I guess I will have to start my thread all over again. I am not talking about the book of Revelation. Though it is customary to capitalize words in a title, I can see where the confusion is.

I am saying that no more scripture (Holy Bible) will be written by men living today or tomorrow.

I will try to make the OP in my new thread more simple to understand.

Thanks for all the replies, they were helpful.

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dragonfly

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Hi Axehead,

Honestly, I don't think you need a new thread, what veteran has shared is helpful in the context of understanding why he was dismayed. We do not need to turn this into a thread about Revelation. Why don't I start a thread to discuss the Bride, and let you carry on here?
 

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I guess I will have to start my thread all over again. I am not talking about the book of Revelation. Though it is customary to capitalize words in a title, I can see where the confusion is.

I am saying that no more scripture (Holy Bible) will be written by men living today or tomorrow.

I will try to make the OP in my new thread more simple to understand.

Thanks for all the replies, they were helpful.

One of your original questions was are their prophets and apostles,Like the ones in the Bible now,And my response was in the book of revelations it predicts the arrival of Two prophets who will have the power of men such as Moses and Elijah.I know your thread was not about Revelations.

Axehead

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Both. Revelation happens every minute. Revelation was fulfilled with Christ.
 

Pelaides

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Hi Axehead,

Honestly, I don't think you need a new thread, what veteran has shared is helpful in the context of understanding why he was dismayed. We do not need to turn this into a thread about Revelation. Why don't I start a thread to discuss the Bride, and let you carry on here?
They already have whole discussions with bible scholars and theologians concerning the missing bride in Jesuses parable.
 

dragonfly

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Hi Pelaides,

I've already transferred the relevant posts to the new thread. The link is in post # 24. veteran's post had several references to study.

Have you done any research into Jewish marriage customs? There is no 'missing bride' in Jesus' parables.... really... :)
 

Axehead

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Guidelines for revelation (not talking about the book of Revelation), Part 2.

I see two levels of authority in Apostles.

First we have the New Testament Apostles and afterwards we have "sent representatives" which will never come up to the level of the New Testament Authority of the 12 Apostles.

Acts 14:14 says that Barnabas was an apostle, but he was not on the level of Apostleship as Paul. No NT scripture came from Barnabas because he did not meet the qualifications (saw the Lord personally, called directly by the Lord, not sent by men).

Barnabas was an apostle by the the Spirit through the Church and not directly from God.

Act_11:22 Then tidings of these things came unto the ears of the church which was in Jerusalem: and they sent forth Barnabas, that he should go as far as Antioch.

Let me put this in perspective. Since the completion of Scripture, the level of prophecy and authority will always be lower (subservient) to scripture. No prophecy or authority will result in revelation that conflicts with Scripture. Jesus brought the full revelation of God, and the Apostles saw Jesus Christ. That which follows must always be subservient. If you go beyond Christ you are going beyond grace and truth through Jesus Christ. (John 1:17-18)

The ministry of Apostle came at the time of the full revelation of God in His Son. Apostle today will always be lower than the NT Apostles and are commissioned by the Church. Prophets and Apostles today, bring the Body into maturity and this ministry has not stopped. We need the "old" revelation to come into maturity, not some "new" revelation.

The original Prophets and Apostles still have a ministry today through the Scriptures.

We do not need men to fill the role of the old prophets and apostles because the ministry continues in the body, today.

Apostolic authority and approval was the primary test for NT Canon. Error comes when revelation or prophecy are allowed to come to level of the Bible in authority. The only one who speaks in the NT without authority given is Jesus Christ.


Eph 2:20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;

The Apostles that are being talked about in Eph 2:20 are the ones that saw Jesus and were directly called by Him.

All other apostles are sent out by the Church and are subservient in authority to the early church Apostles. The NT Scriptures teach nothing about Apostolic succession. If Apostolic Succession were true and not error it would allow men's traditions and commands to rise to the same level of authority as the Scriptures (OT and NT). But instead of adding to the Bible, separate books are maintained yet they are said to have the same level of authority as the Scriptures.

Axehead