Hidden Agenda: everyone ignored deaths from flu but not COVID-19

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Enoch111

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The flu season comes around annually and people die. In the 2018-2019 (the longest flu season) there were an estimated 34,000 deaths for all ages in the USA. No one panicked, no one put on masks, and nothing happened to the economy.

To put things in perspective, the estimated total population of the US is about 350 million, so as a fraction of that 34,000 deaths is 0.00009714285.

The CDC medical hacks are projecting about 60,000 deaths for COVID-19 by August, but since all their projections are pure rubbish, chances are the deaths from Wuhan virus in the USA will be under 20,000, or worst case scenario the same as above -- 34,000. And the same fraction of the total population.

So people should be asking themselves as to what is the Hidden Agenda for all the fear-mongering, panic promotion, and pure nonsense?
 

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The flu deaths are tragic, but they are an excepted tragic, to which we do have vaccines, understand treatments, medical systems set up, etc.

That is not the case with COVID.

Obviously, panicking is not productive. But taken reasonable health safety measures (for individuals and society) is the responsible thing to do.
 

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The flu season comes around annually and people die. In the 2018-2019 (the longest flu season) there were an estimated 34,000 deaths for all ages in the USA. No one panicked, no one put on masks, and nothing happened to the economy.

To put things in perspective, the estimated total population of the US is about 350 million, so as a fraction of that 34,000 deaths is 0.00009714285.

The CDC medical hacks are projecting about 60,000 deaths for COVID-19 by August, but since all their projections are pure rubbish, chances are the deaths from Wuhan virus in the USA will be under 20,000, or worst case scenario the same as above -- 34,000. And the same fraction of the total population.

So people should be asking themselves as to what is the Hidden Agenda for all the fear-mongering, panic promotion, and pure nonsense?
Seriously guy, think things through for a few minutes before you post.

If influenza kills 34,000 when we really don't do much to slow its spread, and COVID kills at least twice as many even when we basically shut down the country to slow its spread, that should tell you how much more deadly COVID is.
 
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.If influenza kills 34,000 when we really don't do much to slow its spread, and COVID kills at least twice as many even when we basically shut down the country to slow its spread, that should tell you how much more deadly COVID is.
Are you aware that the reported deaths for COVID-19 are being deliberately fudged to inflate the numbers?

HUGE! MN Senator and Dr. Reveals HHS Document Coached Him on How to Overcount COVID-19 Cases — WITH COPY OF DOCUMENT (VIDEO)

HUGE! MN Senator and Dr. Reveals HHS Document Coached Him on How to Overcount COVID-19 Cases -- WITH COPY OF DOCUMENT (VIDEO)
 
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Are you aware that the reported deaths for COVID-19 are being deliberately fudged to inflate the numbers?

HUGE! MN Senator and Dr. Reveals HHS Document Coached Him on How to Overcount COVID-19 Cases — WITH COPY OF DOCUMENT (VIDEO)

HUGE! MN Senator and Dr. Reveals HHS Document Coached Him on How to Overcount COVID-19 Cases -- WITH COPY OF DOCUMENT (VIDEO)

Oh yes, and there is MUCH manipulation and much going on behind closed doors re the future of mankind by the elite .
 
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So people should be asking themselves as to what is the Hidden Agenda for all the fear-mongering, panic promotion, and pure nonsense?
Yes,
all along, they should have been wary, testing things all along, instead of believing or trusting those in power or in charge.

The false reports most harmful are the ones from those in power, harming billions of people. (i.e. the source , a known source, of falsehoods and hoaxes, for all generations)
 
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You first need to understand the agenda of the (New World Order) before you can understand what is happening in the world right now. The nations of the world are dealing with massive hostile take over.

Covid-19 is a hoax to create a world economic crisis disguised as a pandemic to destroy the economy (Covid-19 lockdown.) Which will replace sovereign nation states, wipe out the banks, form a one world digital currency and one world banking system, under the formation of a totalitarian One World Government.

Who is behind this? They are called the globalist elite. The global elite are a secret society, a satanic organisation that masterminds all world affairs controlling governments, politicians, heads of state and multinational corporations. All mainstream news and front headline tabloids is corporately controlled by the globalist elite.

Why are they doing this? to take back control from family businesses, big businesses and entrepreneur's, to completely disrupt the fabric of society, to control all money, to consolidate all financial power of the world and control world population (digital certificate, vaccine microchip implant, mark of the beast, Rev 13:16-17.)

The globalist elite have been described as satans henchman laying the ground for their messiah, their ultimate leader the Anti Christ. The Bible speaks of this in Rev 13, about the beast empire, New World Order, the second beast the Anti Christ, and the mark of the beast, (vaccine implant)

Bill Gates is a frontman for the (NWO) globalist agenda. He's responsible for developing the vaccines (mark of the beast (Rev13:16-17) ) so he's innovating for the demise of humanity.

These are end times,
the rise of the Anti Christ.
(Reverlation 13.)
 

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Covid-19 is a hoax to create a world economic crisis disguised as a pandemic to destroy the economy (Covid-19 lockdown.) Which will replace sovereign nation states, wipe out the banks, form a one world digital currency and one world banking system, under the formation of a totalitarian One World Government.
If none of that happens, will you come back here and admit you were wrong?
 
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Seriously guy, think things through for a few minutes before you post.

If influenza kills 34,000 when we really don't do much to slow its spread, and COVID kills at least twice as many even when we basically shut down the country to slow its spread, that should tell you how much more deadly COVID is.

I agree, even though some restrictions are no fun at all, if nothing was done, Covid would have been way worst, and it's not over yet.
 

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I agree, even though some restrictions are no fun at all, if nothing was done, Covid would have been way worst, and it's not over yet.
If nothing was done, it might have just blown over and been gone already, (regardless if natural or manmade) ....
without disrupting any business at all.

To be compared later with other past epidemics, at times when business and daily life was not affected by governments or medical interventions.
 

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If nothing was done, it might have just blown over and been gone already, (regardless if natural or manmade) ....
without disrupting any business at all.

To be compared later with other past epidemics, at times when business and daily life was not affected by governments or medical interventions.

I believe the medical experts knew how bad Covid could get if nothing was done, that's why they recommended restrictions, to save lives.
 

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I believe the medical experts knew how bad Covid could get if nothing was done, that's why they recommended restrictions, to save lives.
Yes, but believing it was so does not make it so.
There are many who believe the doctors lied, and the governments,

and there is evidence both ways - all to be verified/ tested/ proven before accepting.
 

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I agree, even though some restrictions are no fun at all, if nothing was done, Covid would have been way worst, and it's not over yet.
Yep. We're over 40,000 dead even though the outbreak didn't really get going in the US until March. If that many have died already, even as the curve starts to trend downwards, more will continue to die in the process.

Remember early on when all the conspiracy nuts here would post daily death numbers, like "only 1,200 have died" or would post lists of states that hadn't had any COVID deaths? Notice how they quietly stopped doing that and have now moved on to yelling about vaccines?

Every once in a while I like to go back through old posts and see how the conspiracy narratives have changed, and how many of their talking points they've quickly and quietly dropped along the way. It's quite a fascinating look into how the conspiracy theorist mind works. Despite all their rhetoric about "truth" and not being fooled, they seem to completely lack the ability to admit when their predictions and warnings turn out to be wrong (and to learn to not repeat their mistakes in the process).
 
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These are end times,
the rise of the Anti Christ.
(Reverlation 13.)

(bad) Revelation 13:15-17............. Daniel 3:5-11 .............. this Beast Mark is associated with "suicide", the parable is that they very unclean, God becomes their Enemy and they see that as "gold/prosperity", and then they die, same description with the "golden calf" ............... "the ark of the covenant .... "unified field" .... and then deaths, ended the controversy at that time".

(in the new testament, God hold's "dead flesh" against mankind and does nothing .............. we are given the parable of "lazarus and the richman" ......... "the richman joseph that took jesus body" ........... god gives provision for his mercies in the new testament, right now that is the only real solution ........... otherwise its just "climate change, and bio-magnetic field impacts, or coronavirus")
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(good) Revelation 14:1-4 ............. Isaiah 38:1-3 ................ (after 1 to 5 million deaths globally, things may accelerate) (that is when they will begin to rethink and reclassify the "coronavirus" as non-virus just a symptom of bad health/climate change, with varying treatments for it) (a natural process) (keeping people inactive, shutting down the economy, may be doing more harm then good) ..............This "Beast Mark" is just natural life processes, it does not outright kill, that is the difference. It just idles there, comes and goes.
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The earth's unified field, won't become reactive enough to end the controversy so you just need to get used to coronavirus, until you pass the apex of activity, as they say. This issue is apart of the natural processes of the human body when subject to a unified field, we can't see the complete process. However based on uncleanness, you don't need a full process to kill, that is what is happening. Not enough for complete scientific inquiry, just enough to evade the virus classification people keep assigning to it, until the deaths balloon, likely this summer if we can pin this on climate change, things will become clear around that time, this year.
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(in the new testament, well God did explain what the whole "Lazarus" thing was about, he just rebranded it as the "mark of the beast 666", when he would reveal this through individuals for the masses about his mercies.............this is cyclical behavior. and right now is not the time for this obviously we could be months or years away, probably just a few months)
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("coronavirus" is very common, in human history specifically. and its always the same issues, nothing really new. the problem originates from the lack of information exchange, and also, from people that aggrandize the situation for their immediate benefit, so history is not at all accurate)

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the usa had experience with coronavirus just a few years ago before china, and you can google this they wanted to study the pig under the obama administration or something for urgent analysys, that was billion dollor ticket item, but nobody gave it much attention and they got no funding.
 
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(bad) Revelation 13:15-17............. Daniel 3:5-11 .............. this Beast Mark is associated with "suicide", the parable is that they very unclean, God becomes their Enemy and they see that as "gold/prosperity", and then they die, same description with the "golden calf" ............... "the ark of the covenant .... "unified field" .... and then deaths, ended the controversy at that time".

(in the new testament, God hold's "dead flesh" against mankind and does nothing .............. we are given the parable of "lazarus and the richman" ......... "the richman joseph that took jesus body" ........... god gives provision for his mercies in the new testament, right now that is the only real solution ........... otherwise its just "climate change, and bio-magnetic field impacts, or coronavirus")
...............
...............
(good) Revelation 14:1-4 ............. Isaiah 38:1-3 ................ (after 1 to 5 million deaths globally, things may accelerate) (that is when they will begin to rethink and reclassify the "coronavirus" as non-virus just a symptom of bad health/climate change, with varying treatments for it) (a natural process) (keeping people inactive, shutting down the economy, may be doing more harm then good) ..............This "Beast Mark" is just natural life processes, it does not outright kill, that is the difference. It just idles there, comes and goes.
.............
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The earth's unified field, won't become reactive enough to end the controversy so you just need to get used to coronavirus, until you pass the apex of activity, as they say. This issue is apart of the natural processes of the human body when subject to a unified field, we can't see the complete process. However based on uncleanness, you don't need a full process to kill, that is what is happening. Not enough for complete scientific inquiry, just enough to evade the virus classification people keep assigning to it, until the deaths balloon, likely this summer if we can pin this on climate change, things will become clear around that time, this year.
.............
.............
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(in the new testament, well God did explain what the whole "Lazarus" thing was about, he just rebranded it as the "mark of the beast 666", when he would reveal this through individuals for the masses about his mercies.............this is cyclical behavior. and right now is not the time for this obviously we could be months or years away, probably just a few months)
.............
.............
.............
("coronavirus" is very common, in human history specifically. and its always the same issues, nothing really new. the problem originates from the lack of information exchange, and also, from people that aggrandize the situation for their immediate benefit, so history is not at all accurate)

EDIT

the usa had experience with coronavirus just a few years ago before china, and you can google this they wanted to study the pig under the obama administration or something for urgent analysys, that was billion dollor ticket item, but nobody gave it much attention and they got no funding.
Yes they did, Fauci secretly transferred 3.5 million dolllars to China to study the virus over in their labs instead of here in the U.S. ....
 

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Yes they did, Fauci secretly transferred 3.5 million dolllars to China to study the virus over in their labs instead of here in the U.S. ....
That is 3.7 million American cash to Wuhan, not 3.5 million. And that is not all to this sordid conspiracy:

1.Fauci publicly *corrected* Trump on hydroxychloroquine (confirmed to be both effective and cheap) because he had a hand in helping his buddy who runs Gilead and has now come up with the more expensive and less effective Remdesivir. The mainstream media have also been waging war on hydroxychlorioquine. They do not want people to know the truth.

2. But China took Remdesivir, and reverse engineered it (BEFORE they released the virus from Wuhan), gave it a different name, and applied for a US patent the day after President Xi of China announced the coronovirus crisis in China. So both sides were going to profit handsomely from this remedy.

3. Fauci and Birx came up with the outrageous claim that if nothing was done there would be 2.2 million deaths in the USA alone. We know now that the deaths are approximately 52,000 at present(discounting the inflated numbers being published since bogus deaths are being attributed to COVID-19). Then on April 1 these frauds said the deaths would be about 94,000 by August, when they are currently only about half the number. Even if they rise to 55,000, that is a huge difference. And what is not being explained is that most of those who have died were either elderly, or with pre-existing health conditions, obesity, hypertension, etc. And children are exempt from both infection and deaths, therefore schools are being opened in the Netherlands and Switzerland.

4. Those over-inflated numbers are coming from Bill Gates IHME, since they are all in collusion with each other to destroy the American economy and hopefully destroy Trump at the same time. Not to mention the loss of civil liberties and the establishment of a police state. It is Bill Gates who wants to have everyone vaccinated (while he makes millions off the vaccine) and then issue certificates of so-called immunity, when WHO just said that immunity is not guaranteed (then backtracked to accommodate Fauci's fraud). Also, flu vaccines are effective LESS THAN HALF THE TIME, so why would this new strain of flu be any different? On top of that Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has exposed the lies of CNN and Sanjay Gupta regarding the effectiveness of flu vaccines.

5. Qualified medical doctors are telling the public that this shut down is bad for both the physical and mental health of people, but Birx is insisting that social distancing continue into the summer! So what does You Tube do to prevent people from knowing the truth? It removes this video by two medical doctors completely (just like the Larry King clip on Joe Biden's shenanigans was removed by Google a few days ago to protect this senile slime ball).

6. As we can see, this is OUTRIGHT WAR on many levels, and Trump has failed to see this, and wasted precious time and political capital wrangling with the vicious media, instead of developing a comprehensive and well thought out plan to deal with these conspirators. In fact he has failed to fire Fauci and Birx when the truth came out months ago, and made many mistakes in handling this crisis.
 
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That is 3.7 million American cash to Wuhan, not 3.5 million. And that is not all to this sordid conspiracy:

1.Fauci publicly *corrected* Trump on hydroxychloroquine (confirmed to be both effective and cheap) because he had a hand in helping his buddy who runs Gilead and has now come up with the more expensive and less effective Remdesivir. The mainstream media have also been waging war on hydroxychlorioquine. They do not want people to know the truth.

2. But China took Remdesivir, and reverse engineered it (BEFORE they released the virus from Wuhan), gave it a different name, and applied for a US patent the day after President Xi of China announced the coronovirus crisis in China. So both sides were going to profit handsomely from this remedy.

3. Fauci and Birx came up with the outrageous claim that if nothing was done there would be 2.2 million deaths in the USA alone. We know now that the deaths are approximately 52,000 at present(discounting the inflated numbers being published since bogus deaths are being attributed to COVID-19). Then on April 1 these frauds said the deaths would be about 94,000 by August, when they are currently only about half the number. Even if they rise to 55,000, that is a huge difference. And what is not being explained is that most of those who have died were either elderly, or with pre-existing health conditions, obesity, hypertension, etc. And children are exempt from both infection and deaths, therefore schools are being opened in the Netherlands and Switzerland.

4. Those over-inflated numbers are coming from Bill Gates IHME, since they are all in collusion with each other to destroy the American economy and hopefully destroy Trump at the same time. Not to mention the loss of civil liberties and the establishment of a police state. It is Bill Gates who wants to have everyone vaccinated (while he makes millions off the vaccine) and then issue certificates of so-called immunity, when WHO just said that immunity is not guaranteed (then backtracked to accommodate Fauci's fraud). Also, flu vaccines are effective LESS THAN HALF THE TIME, so why would this new strain of flu be any different? On top of that Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has exposed the lies of CNN and Sanjay Gupta regarding the effectiveness of flu vaccines.

5. Qualified medical doctors are telling the public that this shut down is bad for both the physical and mental health of people, but Birx is insisting that social distancing continue into the summer! So what does You Tube do to prevent people from knowing the truth? It removes this video by two medical doctors completely (just like the Larry King clip on Joe Biden's shenanigans was removed by Google a few days ago to protect this senile slime ball).

6. As we can see, this is OUTRIGHT WAR on many levels, and Trump has failed to see this, and wasted precious time and political capital wrangling with the vicious media, instead of developing a comprehensive and well thought out plan to deal with these conspirators. In fact he has failed to fire Fauci and Birx when the truth came out months ago, and made many mistakes in handling this crisis.

I know, and now there is investigation into where all the bodies are of those who died from the virus....the numbers aren't matching up.
 

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***Laura Ingraham reported on her show last night that the CDC reports that in Kentucky there have been 2267 deaths from flu/pneumonia and 213 deaths from Covid-19. She also reported that many healthcare workers across the country have been furloughed or laid off because hospitals stopped doing elective surgeries, while under 10% of the nation's hospitals have seen an influx of Covid-19 patients.

Covid-19 deaths have not been a huge problem, but joblessness has skyrocketed!

What a mess the nationwide shutdown has made!!!