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How Comprehensive are the Ten Commandments?

Discussion in 'Ethics & Morality Forum' started by Hobie, Jan 16, 2020.

  1. Hobie

    Hobie Active Member

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    Many people even Christians think the Ten Commandments have no place today in society or religion, and yet they are in all areas of our lives. Lets look at what Christ said which has meaning even today:
    "27 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:
    28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart." Matthew 5:27-28.

    The Jews themselves were astonished and amazed at the words of Jesus, He was saying not only to obey in actions, but also in your heart and mind was part of keeping the Ten Commandments. The law was not exclusively for the benefit of the Jews, but for Gods creation. God honored them by making them the guardians and keepers of His law, but it was to be held as a sacred custody or trust for the whole world.

    The precepts of the Ten Commandments are adapted to all of us, and they were given for the instruction and government of all. The Ten Commandments cover the duty of man to God and to his fellow man; and all based upon the fundamental principle of love.

    “Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbor as thyself.” Luke 10:27.

    The commandment “Thou shalt have no other gods before Me”, lays out that God is alone entitled to supreme reverence and worship. Man is forbidden to give to any other object the first place in his affections or his service.

    The commandment “Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them” forbids the worship of God by images or similitudes. Many claim that their images are mere figures or symbols by which the Lord God was worshiped, but God has declared such worship to be sin.

    It is connected to the next commandment, “Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate Me. And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.” But now it lays out the suffering from the consequences of the parents wrongdoing, but they are not punished for the parents’ guilt, except as they participate in their sins. However we see how today, children walk in the steps of their parents. Thus by inheritance and example the sons are transmitted the iniquity and become partakers of the father’s sin.

    The commandment, “Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain: for the Lord will not hold him guiltless that taketh His name in vain”, prohibits not only false oaths that men may use to trick other men, but it forbids us to use the name of God in a light or careless manner, without regard to its great significance.

    Now here is the commandment that many have forgotten, “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labor, and do all thy work: but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: for in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day, and hallowed it” or disregard altogether. The Sabbath is not introduced as a new institution of worship but as having been founded at creation, so it is to be remembered and observed as the memorial of the Creator’s work.

    This commandment, “Honor thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the Lord thy God giveth thee”, seems to be one of the easiest ones and yet we see today people breaking almost in every form. God basically sets forth that children not only to give respect, submission, and obedience to their parents, but also to give them love and tenderness, to lighten their cares, to guard their reputation, and comfort them in old age.

    The commandment, “Thou shalt not kill”, is not just not to murder, but covers the spirit of hatred and revenge, or the indulgence of any passion that leads to hateful acts toward others, or causes us even to wish them harm.

    The commandment “Thou shalt not commit adultery” forbids not only acts of impurity, but sensual thoughts and desires, or any practice that tends to excite them.

    The commandment, “Thou shalt not steal” is not only that known in public but private sins are included in this prohibition. It demands strict integrity in all aspects such as trade, debts or wages.

    The commandment, "Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor", protects us all against the commitment of false accusations or unjust lawsuits.

    The last commandment, "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ***, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's", is one of the most prevalent sins today as we see almost anything possible advertised with the intent to make us covet and desire, things we may not even need, and many fall into sin just to acquire them.

    The Ten Commandments are much more comprehensive than one might think....
     
  2. Mike Waters

    Mike Waters Well-Known Member

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    Jesus did not come to negate, or in any way nullify, the Law on which the Old Covenant was based.
    His purpose was to lift every aspect to a new and higher level of ‘Spiritual’ observance.
    The Key is in Matthew 5:17-20

    “ Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed that of the scribes and Pharisees (the very epitome of strict observers of the ‘Law’) you shall in no way enter into the kingdom of heaven.
     
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    That goes without saying.
     
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    charity Well-Known Member

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    [/QUOTE]
    'Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.
    For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.
    For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness,
    .. have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
    For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness
    to every one that believeth.'
    (Rom 10:1-4)

    Hello @Hobie,

    The law is good, but no man can attain unto righteousness by it, only by believing on the name of the Son of God, and trusting in the efficacy of His sacrificial death and resurrection. For thereby God's righteousness is imputed to us. Paul said:-

    'But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully;
    Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man,
    .. but for the lawless and disobedient,
    .... for the ungodly and for sinners,
    ...... for unholy and profane,
    ........ for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers,
    .......... for manslayers, for whoremongers,
    ............ for them that defile themselves with mankind,
    .............. for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons,
    ................ and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;
    According to the glorious gospel of the blessed God,
    which was committed to my trust.'

    (1 Timothy 1:8-11)

    Praise God!

    In Christ Jesus
    Chris
     
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  5. Hobie

    Hobie Active Member

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    'Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.
    For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.
    For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness,
    .. have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
    For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.'

    (Rom 10:1-4)

    Hello @Hobie,

    The law is good, but no man can attain unto righteousness by it, only by believing on the name of the Son of God, and trusting in the efficacy of His sacrificial death and resurrection. For thereby God's righteousness is imputed to us. Paul said:-

    'But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully;
    Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man,
    .. but for the lawless and disobedient,
    .... for the ungodly and for sinners,
    ...... for unholy and profane,
    ........ for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers,
    .......... for manslayers, for whoremongers,
    ............ for them that defile themselves with mankind,
    .............. for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons,
    ................ and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;
    According to the glorious gospel of the blessed God,
    which was committed to my trust.'

    (1 Timothy 1:8-11)

    Praise God!

    In Christ Jesus
    Chris[/QUOTE]
    And yet Christ Himself says...
    Matthew 16:27
    For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.
     
  6. Windmillcharge

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    This and the other saying about loving your neighbour as yourself are direct quotes by Jesus of how the ten commandments were summed up in the old testament.

    In quoting them Jesus showed that this summary of the ten commandments was correct.

    Many Christians know that Jesus said,' If you Love me, you will obey my commandments.'

    ?Jesus's commandments to us have just been quoted.

    The ten commandments are totally relevant to Christians as a measure of how much they Love Jesus.
     
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  7. brakelite

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    Hi @Hobie . I would add one thing to that first commandment, which most people bypass...
    I am the Lord thy God which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
    Without Christ first freeing us from the bondage of sin, those commandments are hopeless far off impossible dreams. But with Christ, all things are possible, and they become promises. Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, soul, mind, and body, for nothing is too hard for them that believe, all the promises in Christ being Yea and Amen, being great and precious promises to all those who partake of the divine nature, having escaped from the clutches of the world of lust
     
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    The law (by the hand of Moses) is a testimony to us or at least the Jews that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, otherwise the law is a witness against anyone else who claims to fulfill it. So, Jesus is the One who fulfilled it to the Father’s satisfaction. And certainly not to any man’s satisfaction. And Jesus who is Son of God says:

    Mat_12:8 For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day.

    Mar_2:28 Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.

    Luk_6:5 And he said unto them, That the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.

    Notice in all three accounts He says "Son of man" not Son of God.
    Besides its being faithful to what is agreed to, that is the law God seeks to see men fulfill.

    and seeing that Jesus fulfilled the law, then the likeness of God and the Image of God is verified by the law. so its only relevant to those who have the Life of Christ who fulfilled the law.
     
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    You said: " “Remember the Sabbath day,…"

    This is a good example of the commandment by the Apostle Paul telling Believers to not keep the Law of Moses (which includes the 10 Commandments).
    (Gal.3:11) "But that no one is justified by the law in the sight of God is evident, for “the just shall live by faith.” 12. Yet the law is not of faith, but “the man who does them shall live by them.”
    (Gal.5:3) "And I testify again to every man who becomes circumcised that he is a debtor to keep the whole law."

    So, if a Christian follows the Law of the Sabbath, they must also follow all of the Law of Moses (about 600 laws).
    The Sabbath had other laws to perform, such as gathering the manna. It can't be done.

    Christians are not under the Law of Moses.
    (Gal.3:24) "Therefore the law was our tutor to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith. 25. But after faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor."



     
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  10. aspen

    aspen “"The harvest is plentiful but the workers are few

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    The Ten Commandments speaks to the legalism of it’s primary audience. God broke down the concept of loving neighbor into specific examples of loving your neighbor. The Jewish people were all former slaves - they thought like slaves and relied on the legalism of their Egyptian masters to survive and avoid punishment. The beginning of their liberation was speaking their language and God dictated far more than 10 commandments in order to explain His plan for their transformation into a free people.
     
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    ha they got a little bit freer than they prolly anticipated huh?
     
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    And yet Christ Himself says...
    Matthew 16:27
    'For the Son of man shall come in the glory of His Father with His angels;
    and then He shall reward every man according to his works.'
    [/QUOTE]
    'Verily, verily, I say unto you,
    "He that heareth My word,
    and believeth on Him that sent Me,
    hath everlasting life,
    and shall not come into condemnation;
    but is passed from death unto life.'

    (John 5:24)

    Hello @Hobie,

    Sorry to take so long to respond to your entry, but my computer has been in for repair.

    Yes, the Son of man shall indeed reward every man according to his works. However, in the case of the believer there will be no condemnation, for He is in Christ, and the righteousness of God has been imputed to him. He will be judged in regard to his state, ie., his manner of life and witness, in regard to faithfulness and endurance to the end, with regard to the prize, and will suffer loss or reward accordingly, but in His standing before God He is indeed holy and without blame, on the basis of the finished work of Christ on His behalf, regardless of works.

    Praise God!

    In Christ Jesus
    Chris
     
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