Stranger said:
Josho
In trying to date the dinosaurs you have to deal with the dating of the original creation. I don't know if you are familiar with the 'gap theory', but you should study up on it as it will provide answers to these questions.
Briefly stated the 'gap theory' sees (Gen.1:1) as original creation. "In the beginning" As to when, exactly time wise, that 'beginning' was is unknown. (Much like John 1:1). "In the beginning was the Word".
Then in (Gen.1:2) you see the earth in a chaotic condition covered in darkness, and submerged in waters. Because this condition is contrary to God's method of creating and is exactly a condition of judgment, then between (Gen.1:1) and (1:2), something occurred which threw the earth into that condition. And that is what is known as a gap or period of time unknown to us.
The 'gap theory' believes that it was at this time that you had the rebellion of Satan, who was much involved with the earth. As a result there came judgement from God which placed the earth in the darkness you see in (Gen.1:2)
This of course makes the 6 days of creation, not 'original' creation but a 'recreation'. A restoration of the earth.
I believe this 'gap theory' is true. Not because science proves it, but because Scripture supports it. And it is here that I think the dinosaurs are to be located.
Stranger
Dan57 said:
I agree with Stranger, the gap theory seems plausible
The bible doesn't say how old the earth is. Genesis 1:1 says "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth," It doesn't say when the beginning was, and note that verse one ends with a comma, not a period.
Genesis 1:2 "And the earth was without form and void" "Was" is the wrong English word here, there is no 'was' in Hebrew. The Massorah renders it "hayah" (Strong's Concordance ref #1961). Hayah means; "to become or came to pass". So verse 2 should read that "The earth became void and without form". So millions or billions of years could have passed between verses 1 and 2 of Genesis.
Some believe (myself included) that there are 3 earth ages. The first age is past, we are in the second age, and the third is yet to come. God completely annihilated and destroyed the first earth age, dinosaurs and all after Satan's rebellion (2 Peter 3:5-7 and Jeremiah 4:19-28). Note that in Genesis 1:28, God says "Replenish the earth", suggesting that it was inhabited before.
So imo, God did not create the world void and empty, it became that way. Then God formed it to be inhabited by mankind (Isaiah 45:18). Many Christians don't accept this interpretation, but it makes sense to me... jmo
Interesting views, but I think I will stick with holding the 1st view i have though on dinosaurs for now, as creatures that walked the earth during Biblical times, along with mammoths. If there were giants in the old testament like Goliath, then there could have been dinosaurs too, there's no reason that dinosaurs couldn't have walked the earth during Old Testament days, and we do not know whether if Noah brought any dinosaurs into his ark or not. And it's possible for Satan and fallen angels to have been thrown down to the depths of the earth when it was formless, empty and dark and nothing else was in it, after all it would make sense to throw Satan into a dark empty place, after he rebelled against God, if God created a prehistoric age on earth, then why throw Satan down to earth with life on it? Why not throw him into outer space? I guess we will all find out the whole story in heaven.
Notice that a greater and lesser light were made after the gap. That means that skies were not lit with the sun, moon and stars while the earth was void, and that itself suggests that there was no natural light before Genesis 1:2. This was the fourth day when God put lights in the sky
14 And God said, “Let there be lights in the vault of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark sacred times, and days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth.” And it was so. 16 God made two great lights—the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. 17 God set them in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth, 18 to govern the day and the night, and to separate light from darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fourth day.
There's no definite answer, and is one of the many things that we probably won't find out until we get to heaven, there's a book called "Nine Days in Heaven" and it's a biography about a worldly girl by the name of Marietta Davis, she fell into a 9 day trance and saw a 9 day long vision, she had an angelic guide and she was shown through heaven, she saw heaven exactly as how it's described in Revelation, with all the precious stones and gold around the walls and gates, she also got to meet Jesus, and saw all the wonderful spirit beings of light while she was in heaven, she was taken to see the infant spirits by her guide, those were babies who had died here on this earth, and they had other heavenly beings teaching them about the life of Jesus, and as they were being taught they would be taken into the scene, and it was a lot more real then a movie, they would see the past like they were actually there when Jesus was born, when Jesus was crucified, and they would see what happened exactly in both the natural and supernatural realms when these events took place, if infants are being taught that in heaven, imagine how much more we will learn when we get up there, and in the detail we will learn the things that we do not know of, you could be sure you would definitely learn the fullness of what happened before history on this earth was created.
Anyway she was also taken to hell in this vision, and here's a summary, the angelic guide left her there in that place of misery for an unknown period of time, and she saw some of her friends who ended up in hell, and some other people, and it was a deceitful place, there would be a delicious looking piece of fruit on the tree, and her friend would eat it, and it would only bring more misery, as she ate it, it didn't taste sweet at all, it would just burn and burn their mouths, Marietta became terrified while she was in hell and started running from her own friends, and she cried out to God, with no response for a length of time, a bunch of educated atheists taunted her, a choir and priest were making an awful noise, many people would also taunt the choir and priest, evil spirits and demons would also frighten her, she just only saw and heard worse and worse things, until eventually it was time for her to go back up to heaven, the angelic guide then explained to her about the kind of life she was living on earth, and how she was to change her ways when she arrived back on earth, Marietta didn't want to leave heaven back into earth, but the angelic guide told her, we will see you again up here, you still got some stuff you must do on earth, she then entered the earth again, woke up, repented and asked Jesus into her life and told everybody what she had saw.