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topcat23

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Hello all, I feel God has put it on my heart to try to do something to help the children, elderly and the sick of this world. I know , you may be saying , well what can one person do for appox. 7 billion people (world pop). To tell you the truth I don't know, and thats why I'm here. I know if we do nothing, then nothing gets done, that much I do know. I see all the programs on tv that are doing so much to help out people in all parts of the world, but I don't see one organization (other than the Red Cross, and they are not christian based) that are trying to help out all areas of the world, I know this sounds like a big task to try and take on and I surely can not do it alone, but I know with the help of others, things can get done, in the name of Jesus, all the power and glory go to him.I forsee going into the worst parts of the world , where hunger and poverty are most prevailant and trying to give to those who are most in need, again the young, old and the struggling poor, the needs to everyday living, including the word of God.I had an idea that if we could give at least 1 dollar (more if you can afford it, but one dollar for most of us is not going to be missed) a month to this ministry then maybe in the near future we can help out God's less fortunate.I figure if we have a population base of almost 7billion, lets say if a 3rd to half live in what we call modern , self-sufficient, countries, and the people of those countries gave 1 dollar towards this goal, maybe world hunger would be a part of our past. Now I'm not a pie in the sky kind of guy to think that all these people are going to give, but if even a percentage of these people gave, then something can be done, that I know. I would like to see the program being self-sufficient at some point, where the interest made from any monies would be what pays for most of the projects. I have many ideas for this , but I need your input and help in anyway you feel you can give. This is the start and I know so much has to be done before we can even ask for penny one, like setting up an non-profit organization, accounts, getting people in authority to jump on the bandwagon, not to mention , who do we get the word out there that a ministry like this even exists (advertising, utube, my space, the list can go on and on)I would so appreciate any and all feedback you guys have to give, and most importantly , your prayers, so God can guide us in how to get this done.So much to do , so in advance, I thank you for taking the time to tell me what you think and reading this through.Take care and God bless each and everyone, Love, Topcat
 

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Hello all, I feel God has put it on my heart to try to do something to help the children, elderly and the sick of this world. I know , you may be saying , well what can one person do for appox. 7 billion people (world pop). To tell you the truth I don't know, and thats why I'm here. I know if we do nothing, then nothing gets done, that much I do know. I see all the programs on tv that are doing so much to help out people in all parts of the world, but I don't see one organization (other than the Red Cross, and they are not christian based) that are trying to help out all areas of the world, I know this sounds like a big task to try and take on and I surely can not do it alone, but I know with the help of others, things can get done, in the name of Jesus, all the power and glory go to him.I forsee going into the worst parts of the world , where hunger and poverty are most prevailant and trying to give to those who are most in need, again the young, old and the struggling poor, the needs to everyday living, including the word of God.I had an idea that if we could give at least 1 dollar (more if you can afford it, but one dollar for most of us is not going to be missed) a month to this ministry then maybe in the near future we can help out God's less fortunate.I figure if we have a population base of almost 7billion, lets say if a 3rd to half live in what we call modern , self-sufficient, countries, and the people of those countries gave 1 dollar towards this goal, maybe world hunger would be a part of our past. Now I'm not a pie in the sky kind of guy to think that all these people are going to give, but if even a percentage of these people gave, then something can be done, that I know. I would like to see the program being self-sufficient at some point, where the interest made from any monies would be what pays for most of the projects. I have many ideas for this , but I need your input and help in anyway you feel you can give. This is the start and I know so much has to be done before we can even ask for penny one, like setting up an non-profit organization, accounts, getting people in authority to jump on the bandwagon, not to mention , who do we get the word out there that a ministry like this even exists (advertising, utube, my space, the list can go on and on)I would so appreciate any and all feedback you guys have to give, and most importantly , your prayers, so God can guide us in how to get this done.So much to do , so in advance, I thank you for taking the time to tell me what you think and reading this through.Take care and God bless each and everyone, Love, Topcat
teach a kid to fish he will get some on his own.....to me the number two thing i want to create more and more of .is first aid and emergency awarness programs...if you want help let me know
 

His By Grace

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This is a very admirable goal. I know I waste money that could be helping others. It is a big task, but maybe the Lord gave you this for a reason. He is so awesome and great enough to work it out through faithful followers. Let me know if I can help. I am willing to send some money at times, when I can, to help if everything's above board and approved through Denver. Thanks for sharing. I'll be praying about it.
 

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I've really been thinking and praying about what you said, topcat. This was an impression put upon my heart. It may have been for me, or it may have been for both of us. It could have been for a reader here. I'm not sure, but please do not take anything offensively, because I don't know you or pretend to know your lifestyle, habits, etc. so I am not judging you in any way. It came to me that we seek to do a great work in the world, when the Lord may want us to go next door and do something for our neighbor. He may have been telling us to share Christ with a friend, schoolmate, or coworker, and we have said no or not now. So, if you have not started to do things where you live, start there with who you know or who you can reach locally. Give with what you have to give now and keep praying about the other idea. One of the sayings of Mother Theresa that I love is something like this, " Don't seek to do great deeds, but small deeds with great love." Another thing I really like that Adrienne Rodgers said (he was a Southern Baptist preacher that passed away not long ago) is that we complain because the government won't let the 10 commandments be displayed in a courtyard or courthouse. We complain because we can't pray in schools. How many of us are teaching/displaying the 10 commandments in our homes? How many of us are praying with our families at home? These are just some things to think about. These things convict my heart and challenge me right where I am. I hope they will do the same -in a positive way- for you. Be blessed. HBG
 

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Thank you both for your prayers and well wishes. Thank you both for your willingness to help , but I want to make it clear I'm not trying to request any monies from anyone on here, besides there is a lot of work to do before I would even be able to ask for any money, but if you know of organizations that are doing these same things , as far as helping out in 3rd world and war torn countries, I need to make a list with contacts to start a dialoge with them and find out from their expreience where the most help is needed. There is so many different people that would be needed to make this fly. I want to touch on what Grace said , and I want to let you know that I have nothing but respect and love for you and your advice. I thought you said, what you thought was needed to say from your point of view, having said that , I guess I'm just looking at the bigger picture here and I know for the most part we do take care , or at least somewhat, of our hungry, poor , elderly, but so many people across this world don't have the means or opportunity to take care of their basic needs, I know this sounds grandiose, but I also believe God can move mountains, and I am not a person to want the limelight and still don't , but what is impressed upoun my heart out weighs my wishes. If you know of a great front man that would like the job , please let me know, lol, I think this thing needs a few celebrities to jump on board, it somehow has to be recognized and my face just won't do it,I might be able to launch a thousand ships with it, but thats about it, lol.Once again Grace I think what you said is valid , and I do try to let people know of my faith and believes when the time arises with my neighbours and in the work place, but I do use discretion. With my family its a different story, they know me and know what I stand for, and I try to teach my kids about Gods love for all of us, no matter who you are. I probably should have the 10 commandments put up somewhere in the house , but I do have other reminders around the house (footprints in the sand, praying hands, ect) that points again to my faith. So I do believe what you say is true, I just think that the biggest need is not coming from here at home in the delevoped countries. Please keep on praying that Gods will is done here, as this is not about me or us, its about all the people that need the help so desperatley to stay alive and to live with diginity, to me thats what its all about.May God bless you all in your daily walk with the Lord, Topcat
 

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Hi Topcat 23,This is a common occurence in those of us as believers have been given a care for others within us. A care from the heart.
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But whilst it is true we cannot all go out physically into these places and help we can help from where we are by supporting charities and Christian organisations.With me instead of looking at what I could not do for the Lord. I decided I would start with what I could do. By taking the resources God had given me and enabling those who can go to be able to go and do the work needed.These seeds may one day make us see that if everyone started to see that they can make a difference around them and for others. That once everyone realised they could make a difference this would lead to those people being reached with what God wants them to have. So get involved. Give your clothes to charity before they are too worn and old glasses and toys etc.Think bfore throwing things out how giving them to charities or selling and giving the money will make a difference. Look for ways to useful in the lesser important ways. To me it is not about whether I can get to the country and help but can I support others who are able. It does not matter what part you play because the Glory and praise is always Gods. We become thankful for he enables us to give and share and see his work being done.Don't look at the mountain enjoy the walk over it. Because we can be useful even when we feel it is not enough. But that is not true. Giving is something we can all do. Whether it is from the little we have or from having alot.We can make a difference because we care and because we give.So change your life. From what you want for yourself to what you can change for others.Faithful.
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topcat23

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Thanks faithful for a very insightful piece, everything you said makes so much sense and I hope we all are doing so many of the things you have mentioned. I hate to waste anything myself, including food. Its hard for me to throw anything out , knowing that there are millions out there starving and here I am throwing food out, not in my house. I hope we all try to do our part in keeping with God's wishes.Thanks again faithful, I hope I can count on you and the others here for advice and support in the near future, most importantly I need all your prayers. I find it kind of funny that so many of us do that last instead of first and foremost. So many of us feel or say "the least I could do is pray for you", in my book, thats the most important thing we can do, " where two or more are gathered " I forget the rest , but it has to do with God answering our prayers. I would like to flood his prayer request lines with this one, lol.As you can tell I'm a very simple man in my walk with Christ, and for me that works because I don't get caught up with all the traditions and details. I try to be open to hearing the little quite voice within, pray about it and if it feels right between God and myself , I will go ahead and try and do it, pretty simple eh? Again it seems to work for me.You all are in my prayers that God will bless you with all your needs and desires,take care and God bless.Topcat
 

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May God bless your willing and courageous spirit! I will pray for His guidance and leadership in your life. Not everyone would even want to do what you are desiring to do and yes, someone does need to do the leg work. God certainly can move mountains, valleys, and anything else He wants to move-even you!!! So keep the faith. I'm glad to hear people are still having goals and visions- a fresh visitation from the Lord!
 

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Topcat...Like Grace, not trying to extinguish your desires; I know there is love in them, and a spirit to get up and do something instead of not doing anything. I have had this very same heart toward the poor and hurting and hungry and needy "out there" beyond america, and thought...I gotta do something and can! (this is too long, but if you can see it...I feel like I am feeling a true message to you)I wish I had my story written out. I have planned to write a book. I wrote a part of it somewhere here, about my husbands miraculous healing this last summer and my great deliverance. I was with this same heart you have; and it led me to a person who led me to a vision for this need and minsitry..it led me to come to know some people and Pastors in Africa and India who have ministries to these poor and sufferring and dying people...I've had phone conversations with a number of them; alot of emailing, and gained alot of pictures from them of the people there and their conditions, etc...I saw what I saw, and felt such a passion...I became possessed basically...not at first, but gradually...over a years time. I was convinced that this was a call of God, and God has made known to me for years that in my "later years" I will find and see and know the callings and and purposes in God that my life has pointed to and that are my heart. So much was not coincedental...alot of confirmation. This woman did and does have what seems to be a God given talent to reach masses of people and to bring people together in action and in support of ministry plans, including raising money. This whole thing led me to believe...and I mean "led" me...little by little...to believe things and do things I would not! in my right mind. We were going to Africa! And some there expecting us. I was during this time writing on her large International Christian website, and working on it with her. I gotta try to cut it short...I learned the lesson of my life! God tried to teach me this lesson 10 years prior when I almost got tied up with another woman preacher who was gonna save the world...he spoke these words to me...."spiritual woe." I did not understand them then. I escaped that one by surrending in prayer, because God had woke my not then husband yet in the night and told him...I am to 'never" go to her church again! I did not get it!the only reason I "Saw" the truth was because I became willing, by God's inspiration to me...to listen to him regardless of my "good desire" and passion about this ministry pursuit. But 10 years later the Opp. came again...and I didn't escape so easily this time. We were determined and my husband here with these 2 young kids, came to the point of literally dying over the pain and grief of me potentially taking off to Africa and he was not going and no way were the kids! He knew I was in deception and so possessed that he said my eyes looked like cold evil...when I was immovable in my position. Instead of the whole story...this is the conclusion and what I learned...I was not "content" with where I was in life...I wanted something, not a huge issue, just a subtle searching for something. That discontent with where God had me in life opened the door to satan...period! What seemed at first so good and genuine turned out to be the biggest device against my life. After a year my husband dying...Why? God told me the answer when answered Phil's question..."how long will I be with her" (me). He is 65 and I am 46. God told him he would be with me as long as I needed him....I wasn't needing him anymore. He was dying...literally, on the couch one night. This, after some heavy visitations here...visions to my husband of what really was happeing and would happen if I kept on! All this because I had such a heart for the poor and needy over yonder.A Pastor/Prophet I barely knew called me just before I was about to make the move to fly to Fla. and gave me words with scriptures. God was going to again deliver Zion and I would have a visitation and one day it would all seem like a dream. today is that day.My husband saw the Lord in this house, while he laid dying, like a dying person..half here and half gone to the other side. While he pleaded with me in that state..."You have to stop!" I knew it was more than him talking to me...he saw the Lord, I saw his eyes and face when he saw him...and I saw him completely differrent and healed after he then slept for 45 minutes...as he was saying..."I have to sleep awhile because "He's" gotta do some things in me." He ended up driving 24 hrs to go and bring this woman here and her granddaughter and 2 yr old...after he "never" would...after all this...one day within 2 hrs of me asking him "again." this time he knew it was right this time! God told him to do it. why? Because it was the only way I would "see" the truth.Once I had this woman here awhile I "Saw!" The answer was the same as it was 10 years ago...God showed it to me in the bible..."these are they who walk after the flesh." I was in a satanic grip...I have told you nothing of this story! I was finally delivered...God did restore our lives now in bankrupsty and I was on unemployment during this...a Nurse who should not have been in this shape. Now I am in God's will...doing classes toward BS Psych toward counceling goal...my lifes desire and long time heart and sense of ministry calling....and would not be here at all....had no thought of doing it and no belief I could at age 46...except God seemed to drop it on me after he restored me, and presently studying theology and Christian philosophy and presently seeing God constantly answering my prayers...in a real high state these days...cannot desribe the extreme "Gratitude" we have both had and I "live" with! Me and Phil both believe if I had made it to Africa I would have ended up dead. Phil had visions or dreams...The conclusion...things God showed me...lessons....It wasn't all that false Prophets fault...it was mine for being discontent with where God had me in life and venturing out on a path of my own. I searched and I found...or...satan provided me an answer to my searching. I learned alot about people and Pastors in India and Africa...One of them admitted this to me, who stated having this exact initial goal...."What they all want is money from america; don't believe any of them." They were and are Pastors, but ask me about it! First thing...they are not coming from christian country! Not all but many "Will" be anything you want...say anything that will fit your ideals...in order to get money from you. You send money and they "may" let a little trickle down to the flock they "Are" ministering to! and I am talking about major ministry Pastors!The poor feeding off the poor. God showed me it was "Not" a humble heart of service that I had....though I am a true Christian who has a true love for God and people and a call to the hurting. It was me following the flesh...and that is the deadliest of all things you can do!!! It's what leads to "spiritual woe." I was dead brother...completely deluded! If God had not intervened...I would not be here talking to you today.God restored me, my husband, our relationship, my home, family and life! All this because I wanted to help the needy. He planted my bottom right back where I was supposed to have stayed! In Nursing for now...taking care of these 2 young ones he gave me to "RAISE," and with this man he gave me to help me along and protect me while i am on a path toward life purposes God has shown me...but HE will bring them brother....not in a sudden brilliant way...but line upon line....He has given me now what I "Really" desire and search for....but when I tried to find it myself...get this..."there is a way that seemeth right to a man, but the ways thereof are the ways of death." this is a good one Phil spoke to me one day...and spoke it under 'inspiration!"....in a stern strong voice...during my deception...."God's will and man's are 2 opposite things." I remember that! My Brother, I think a few months ago you were disturbed because of your what? anger...inability to have deep real mercy and love for the oppositions to christiantiy? Now you are onto something else. You remind me of me!!!God does have a way to fullfill the desires of your heart...and...the desires you feel to reach out to needy people. He has cut me off from all the people I knew overseas. Doesn't make sense? Not to man and not to my mind at one time. But He has shown me...."I cannot get up and say today or tomorrow I will do this or that" "Not my will but thine." We get into Big trouble when we start working on our will....our will....OUR will!God's will can look boring sometimes....alot of patience and being content! taking forever to get to the mountaintop! I can talk alot and more on this subject....on Why ...just why....I could have a heart for these poor and sufferring people yet God telling me NO....you stay where I put you..doing what I have put you to doing..here in america....I have learned well....NO! We do not do things just because they "seem" to be a good thing to do....we do what God's particular will for us is. And God's voice is NOT the loud raging one....but the very quiet and still one....He doesn't usually tell us to....Jump up and do this or that!Remeber how strait and narrow the Truth is? this is not only true as you look out into our global Culture today!....but it's True also in "Your" life. The path of God in you and your life...is narrow and strait! To get off God's will for us and our life....can mean getting into enemy territory! Be content in every situation...do nothing without alot of prayer...satan sometimes gives us BIG ideas and it doesn't mean you are having pride...but he can lead us to pride and I did not even realize it! Don't hate me for this...and don't choose things because they are opposite of disappointment! So often safety and blessing is on the side where we "think" disappointment and let down is. Maybe I'm wrong, but I kinda don't think so....Don't run for a sudden vision....but don't retreat into despair either....God will turn our disappointment into Joy...or like turning bacca into a well....what you really desire in your heart...He holds the answers to fullfill it...but satan...he likes to offer counterfeits...and lead us on paths that look like God.....................Come back......do come back...do think in prayer though...do be willing to give in to God...if this is Him or "IF" it isn't...want Him more than any vision or desire...."In the many councelors there is safety"..."we have a Love for the brethren"....God is real, and very present! love, Siskim
 

topcat23

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Wow, I'm sorry I didn't catch that , can you say that again, lol. I just want to say thank you for your suggestions, advice and insight. I have been praying about this for awhile now and the more I read and hear, the more knowledge I have to make the right decisions and I know that God is working in my life in so many ways, and this is one of them. Please keep praying for me so that God will guide me in the paths of his will, not mine. I don't believe pride is part of this, at least not in the concious mind. I know where the power and glory go to and comes from, and thats all to God.I am so glad to hear that things are now working out for you and your family, or at least as best that can be expected coming out of where you were in your life.God bless you for all your prayers, and hindsight.Topcat
 

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Good one topcat23 ! praying for you ! If everybody did something, even their little bits, that would make huge impact. There is so many ways. Pray, donate money, go and help in third world countries yourself, sponsor a child, help in your own community just one person at the time.... May God give you desires of your heart and show you the way, what is your thing to help those people. I'm proud of you !Love and Blessings,Thunder1